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"He was just a kid . . . "

Alan RushingAlan Rushing Member Posts: 8,805 ✭✭✭
edited February 2012 in General Discussion
This is a link to a report regarding a shooting subsequest to some young men physically assaulting and robbing folks the other day.

http://www.wfmz.com/news/news-regional-berks/Family-says-teen-didn-t-have-to-die/-/121418/8563524/-/fnovxyz/-/index.html
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  • River RatRiver Rat Member Posts: 9,022 ✭
    edited November -1
    I am sorry they are grieving. But this is what happens when you raise a monster.
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  • Jayhawk2218Jayhawk2218 Member Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No. He was a criminal that got what he deserved.
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  • dav1965dav1965 Member Posts: 26,540 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I feel bad for the man that shot the kid and hope he is doing ok. I hope he gets over it soon.[:(]
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  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
    quote:"The family acknowledges Johnson's actions were wrong, but they question why a warning shot couldn't have been fired first."



    And how much of a 'warning' did the perps give the victim ?????[:(!]

    +1
    What I read was not unexpected in the least.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
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  • Alan RushingAlan Rushing Member Posts: 8,805 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dav1965
    I feel bad for the man that shot the kid and hope he is doing ok. I hope he gets over it soon.[:(]

    David, I agree.

    I'm also sorry that the perps preyed upon those they figured to be least capable of protecting themselves. [:(]

    They are now sorry that one of those they chose, was capable and willing to defend himself. [:(]

    Think they figure one out of three or four ain't bad odds? [;)]
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  • mateomasfeomateomasfeo Member Posts: 27,143
    edited November -1
    Live by the sword - die by the sword...
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  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,685 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dav1965
    I feel bad for the man that shot the kid and hope he is doing ok. I hope he gets over it soon.[:(]


    Agreed, Dave.

    He does not deserve to have to live with taking a life for the rest of his.

    POS was on probation for aggravated assault, had robbed at least two other folks that same day. The shooter did his city a service its court system was uninterested in doing.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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  • nordnord Member Posts: 6,106 ✭
    edited November -1
    How could such an innocent soul go wrong? Probation and at least one robbery on the day he attempted yet another.

    Good clean fun I tell you![;)]

    My guess is that he never considered the fact that one day he'd become the victim of his intended victim. I'd call it a fatal miscalculation. If you play, then you better be prepared to pay.

    The boy played and the boy paid. Too bad about that.
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  • m88.358winm88.358win Member Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Family questions what more could have been done? How about NOT raising a two bit punk who robs the elderly? The poor family gets air time out of it to and I am sure they will try and get some free money or more "gummint checks". Oh well, one less thug to have to feed in prison. Give that old man a medal.
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  • 17tobyracing17tobyracing Member Posts: 3,429 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nice shooting! I wonder what the legally armed citizen was using as his carry weapon and what loads he was using in said firearm? I would have loved to have seen the looks on the faces of the "teens" just before he squeezed off the first round...

    scary_face.jpg
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  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,687 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good shot Grandpa!

    Too bad the other pos got away.
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  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Johnson's sister, Ashley Jones, said, "He's a kid. His actions-- I don't approve of his actions at all, but he didn't deserve to have his life taken."

    His life was not taken......he gave it away.

    If he was doing this at 16, what would he be doing at 20?
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  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,687 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We know about 4 robberies by this vermin.
    That means he probably committed 40 other robberies that he got away with.
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  • redneckandyredneckandy Member Posts: 9,715 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:but they question why a warning shot couldn't have been fired first.

    Cause that warning shot could of hit an innocent bystander.
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  • CSI21CSI21 Member Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would say he needed to die, save a lot of heartache later on when He killed an innocent person.
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  • BeeramidBeeramid Member Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
    Good shot Grandpa!

    Too bad the other pos got away.


    Grandpa was a decent shot, if he was a good shot both of them would be dead.[}:)]
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  • BeeramidBeeramid Member Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He was just a kid.......


    Now he's just a kid takin a well deserved dirt nap at the bottom of a 6ft hole.
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  • mateomasfeomateomasfeo Member Posts: 27,143
    edited November -1
    quote:"He was just a kid . . . "


    So was Billy...
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  • nutfinnnutfinn Member Posts: 12,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [:D]
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  • diver-rigdiver-rig Member Posts: 6,338 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Beeramid
    He was just a kid.......


    Now he's just a kid takin a well deserved dirt nap at the bottom of a 6ft hole.


    And his soul is having a prostate check in HELL!

    Hopefully he will anguish for all eternity, worthless little poophead.
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  • Colonel PlinkColonel Plink Member Posts: 16,460
    edited November -1
    Contrast this snip from the article;

    "Johnson's mother, Idella Hopkins George, said, 'Do I believe he was justified in shooting my son? I would say no.' "

    With this; "Prosecutors say Johnson, who was already on probation for aggravated assault, robbed two men in West Reading and was attempting to rob a third along a bike path in Cumru Township in Berks County."

    I'm sorry for the woman's loss, but I have to disagree with her.
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  • nutfinnnutfinn Member Posts: 12,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He got what he deserved, end of story [:)]
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  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
    Contrast this snip from the article;

    "Johnson's mother, Idella Hopkins George, said, 'Do I believe he was justified in shooting my son? I would say no.' "

    With this; "Prosecutors say Johnson, who was already on probation for aggravated assault, robbed two men in West Reading and was attempting to rob a third along a bike path in Cumru Township in Berks County."

    I'm sorry for the woman's loss, but I have to disagree with her.



    I agree with the second part of your statement, but I'm not feeling the first part.
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  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    stupid family still does not understand their FAILURE
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  • gunpaqgunpaq Member Posts: 4,607 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:He got what he deserved, end of story

    No he did not get what he deserved.

    Sadly his actions were of his own and he paid the price for those actions but he did not get what he deserved because he deserved so much better.

    He deserved a mother and a father who cared about him and he deserved to be raised up right with his best interests in mind so that he would be a productive citizen and prosper.

    He deserved so much more than to be shot dead while committing an act of violence but unfortunately his parent/s made the wrong decisions raising him and ultimately he made the wrong decions as well.
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  • nordnord Member Posts: 6,106 ✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry to disagree on that one. Upbringing is, of course, a factor. In this I somewhat agree. But by the age of sixteen one either knows right from wrong or one doesn't care.

    This young man made a fatal error. Certainly the parents could have probably done better. Let's blame them. Then we'll blame the community. How about the schools? Maybe we should blame white guys... Or Mexicans... or white-haired old ladies for that matter! Let's just avoid placing the onus on our dead sixteen year old.

    Or maybe we should look at the facts. And maybe we should place the blame squarely where it belongs... ON A YOUNG MAN WHO HAD CHOICES AND WHO MADE THE WRONG CHOICES.
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  • gunpaqgunpaq Member Posts: 4,607 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote: Sorry to disagree on that one. Upbringing is, of course, a factor. In this I somewhat agree. But by the age of sixteen one either knows right from wrong or one doesn't care.

    This young man made a fatal error. Certainly the parents could have probably done better. Let's blame them. Then we'll blame the community. How about the schools? Maybe we should blame white guys... Or Mexicans... or white-haired old ladies for that matter! Let's just avoid placing the onus on our dead sixteen year old.

    Or maybe we should look at the facts. And maybe we should place the blame squarely where it belongs... ON A YOUNG MAN WHO HAD CHOICES AND WHO MADE THE WRONG CHOICES.


    quote:Sadly his actions were of his own and he paid the price for those actions
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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    the only bad thing I see is that all 3 perps aren't taking a dirt nap.

    When these animals start getting shot and killed on a regular basis, perhaps other members of the pack with think before attacking innocents.

    painting the perps as victims themselves is total BS.

    but I'm not surprised at all.
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  • bigboy12bigboy12 Member Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The family says that their kid/brother didn't deserve to have his life taken? Give me a freaking break! So, according to the family the robbery victim deserved to have his life taken instead? I would like to hear the family of the punk tell us what they could/should have done differently in regards to how the kid was raised. I'll wager that they don't even consider the ways in which this is their fault. The kid was already a convicted felon based on the fact that he was on probation for aggravated assault, but somehow this situation is the robbery victim's fault? My parents have always taught me that I will be responsible for ALL my actions (good and bad) at some point in my life. Too bad that the robbery victim will probably be sued.
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  • Sav99Sav99 Member Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
    quote:"The family acknowledges Johnson's actions were wrong, but they question why a warning shot couldn't have been fired first."



    And how much of a 'warning' did the perps give the victim ?????[:(!]



    Well said.
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  • lkanneslkannes Member Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "He was just a kid . . . "

    No he was just a dumbazz...
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  • montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 60,195 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by guntech59


    Johnson's sister, Ashley Jones, said, "He's a kid. His actions-- I don't approve of his actions at all, but he didn't deserve to have his life taken."

    His life was not taken......he gave it away.

    If he was doing this at 16, what would he be doing at 20?
    I like you analogy alot. Sad but so true.
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  • JnRockwallJnRockwall Member Posts: 16,350 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    he did fire a warning shot, it just hit his friend that's all
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  • TexasVetTexasVet Member Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They're saying his mother had a worse rap sheet than he did.

    She raised a thugster.
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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,087 ******
    edited November -1
    There is a saying in the Russian Navy that applies, but I can't post it here.
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  • givettegivette Member Posts: 10,886 ✭
    edited November -1
    Wouldn't it be all the scream if the Westboro Baptist Church rallied at this funeral?

    What I mean is, is that they already have the signs printed-up, ready to go...
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  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The family is right. He didn't have to die. All he had to do was mind his own business. His own business other than assault and robbery, that is.

    I figure his absence makes the world a little better place.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
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  • dfletcherdfletcher Member Posts: 8,178 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's unfortunate and I'm sorry the Mom lost her kid. To be blunt, if Mom feels inclined to hold someone other than her son responsible she ought to look at herself first and then perhaps the system that allowed the kid to be out & about. I know parents can't control their kids, but what kind of a lifestyle did she lead, did she allow the kid to lead? Stay out late, excuse his bad behavior, do nothing as he went from minor difficulty to breaking the law? And BTW where's Dad?

    I don't know the answer to the questions, she may have been top notch and done everything in her power - but there should be a little self examination involved before blaming someone else.

    I suspect she'd glady swap the kid having been in jail for a year or three and not in a position to have offended and been shot dead.
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  • Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,836 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yep, Momma should take a hard look in the mirror. Had the robbers stoped him and demanded his goods they might have got a warning but they attacked him. Attack in Progress = Defend one self.


    quote:Originally posted by m88.358win

    Family questions what more could have been done? How about NOT raising a two bit punk who robs the elderly? The poor family gets air time out of it to and I am sure they will try and get some free money or more "gummint checks". Oh well, one less thug to have to feed in prison. Give that old man a medal.
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  • timinpatiminpa Member Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    he was from the harrisburg area, but wearing a "P"ittsburgh hat. This wold never have been tolorated in the are he came from. The "P" on his hat symbolized pyru, or the gang term for a blood gang member.
    "
    The little bass-turd got what he deserved putting in "work" for the gang.

    good riddance
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