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Bringing Ebola Patients to U.S. - Opinions?
Frogdog
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Story Link:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/31/atlanta-hospital-to-receive-ebola-patient/13434883/
So, what do y'all think? Should we be bringing the two infected American aid workers back to the states for treatment, or say, "Sorry, but you're on your own"? Should their choice to work over in that environment constitute an acceptance of the risks involved?
Somehow, the CDC guy saying he "doubts Ebola could spread in the U.S." does not seem very reassuring.....
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/31/atlanta-hospital-to-receive-ebola-patient/13434883/
So, what do y'all think? Should we be bringing the two infected American aid workers back to the states for treatment, or say, "Sorry, but you're on your own"? Should their choice to work over in that environment constitute an acceptance of the risks involved?
Somehow, the CDC guy saying he "doubts Ebola could spread in the U.S." does not seem very reassuring.....
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They knew what they were getting into. Offer all the medical help we can but don't risk infecting our country.
+1
Next time add your own post....mine is fine the way it is...[;)]
But. What a dangerous hell hole. A good friend of mine has a daughter who is an MD, in fact, she graduated from Emory in Atlanta, same place they are taking one of these Ebola patients.
This gal was idealistic and was going to go to Africa, at age 26, a rookie MD and help out the suffering people. I tried to talk her out of it, I told her that malaria was rampant down there and if you get that, and don't die, you are sick for the rest of your life.
I also told her that, as a pretty white girl, she was subject to kidnap, rape, and murder.
I didn't even think of Ebola.
Of course, she ignored me and off she went on a 2 year program. In 10 months she was back in America. She didn't get sick, or raped, but, she was disgusted by the corruption. She said that a million dollars would arrive in American aid, and the next day, the President had a new Rolls Royce and the Vice President had a new Porsche. This gal threw her hands up in the air and fled from Africa.
Now we have these two Americans, an MD and a nurse, who went down there, and have contracted Ebola. It has a 75 percent fatality rate.
Yes, I think we should bring them back and I believe we have the measures to treat them and not infect the US population. After all, we are America not Liberia.
But the maths says that one of these 2 will surely die. What a waste.
Considering the BHO ATF, IRS, and DOJ scandals, could you trust the CDC?
Heck, they could just walk across the southern border.
Follow me here on failed Government-
Step# 1 Install a Government health care system (That is now a Tax and it has failed miserably in support and Cost.)
Step# 2 To Fix this anticipation a "Crisis is Created" buy the Government By Obama and Hillary running ads in South America For the Good life and the medical Care the USA is known for.
Step# 3 They are here! Pouring over the boarder with all kinds of Illness and Disease and being relocated in states with little or no screening. Who is stopping them? NO ONE!
Step# 4 Lets ramp it up! Lets import a few patients with (Ebola) with no known cure!
So where am I going with all this you ask? The perfect storm is being brewed to ramp up health care costs Tax, Etc, Etc.
They could get a guy in Africa who has Ebola. They get about 50 "suicide bombers" who are ready to "give their all" for Allah. They stick around in a room with the doomed Ebola pt. for several days. Ebola is spread through any * fluid, including sweat. The guy coughs a few times, you are in the room with him, you have Ebola.
The incubation period for Ebola is 21 days.
So, on the third day, these 50 infected Jihadis board airliners for the US. They spend the next few weeks, flying around our country on airliners, riding subways, riding MARTA buses in Atlanta. Although they are contagious, they have 3 weeks before they start getting sick.
You could quickly have thousands of Americans infected. This one case now coming to Emory in Atlanta is like calling out the national guard. Emory couldn't handle 50 cases. Your little small town hospital could not handle a single case.
I don't think there is a physician on the planet who would suggest it.
Unless they are insane. Or have an evil intent.
main mission in term is to make us
a 3rd world country.
I have respect for those who take the chance of dying for the cause ( like our military )but they know going into it . just leave them there , as stated the governments are so full of corruption, like a lot of other country's we dump countless piles of money on .
take care of our own first ,
if they need help we have prison's full and countless illegal immigrant's I mean refugees [:(!] we can give them for free to help no money what so ever just the staples like rice and fish heads
sounds like nature is trying to take care of the problem let it run its course
They knew what they were getting into. Offer all the medical help we can but don't risk infecting our country.
Yep, keep them where they are. Instead they are bringing one to the ATL. Hey Capt. let us know how that is going?? A little heads up would be nice.
As for how the virus is spread, it's via * fluids. American contagious disease isolation facilities easily manage that threat. It's not like bringing a patient to some African mud hut or tin roof "hospital".
No-f'n-way.......
+10000%
where did you get that info ? i had malaria, caught it in the Philippines on a special training mission, where our campsite was there were water buffalos which brought in swarms of mosquitos, over half of our contingent got infected.
i can not donate blood, and you should know why, but i am NOT sick for the rest of my life, but when i do catch a cold, it is far worse than ordinary colds other people get.
Of course we bring them back. They are Americans, we should never leave our people behind.
They didn't seem to mind leaving these 9,387 American Service Men behind on Normandy Beach. I say we bring these brave Americans home first and then we can talk about these other two that went to save Africa but don't seem to care if they spread the virus to American's.
quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
Of course we bring them back. They are Americans, we should never leave our people behind.
They didn't seem to mind leaving these 9,387 American Service Men behind on Normandy Beach. I say we bring these brave Americans home first and then we can talk about these other two that went to save Africa but don't seem to care if they spread the virus to American's.
AMEN!
Now my Conspiratorial input that many will find Outrageous and Ludacris-
Follow me here on failed Government-
Step# 1 Install a Government health care system (That is now a Tax and it has failed miserably in support and Cost.)
Step# 2 To Fix this anticipation a "Crisis is Created" buy the Government By Obama and Hillary running ads in South America For the Good life and the medical Care the USA is known for.
Step# 3 They are here! Pouring over the boarder with all kinds of Illness and Disease and being relocated in states with little or no screening. Who is stopping them? NO ONE!
Step# 4 Lets ramp it up! Lets import a few patients with (Ebola) with no known cure!
So where am I going with all this you ask? The perfect storm is being brewed to ramp up health care costs Tax, Etc, Etc.
Well put, if you read the teachings of such as Alinsky, Engels, and Marx, you will see where such ideas originate.
JMO
JW
In the past the outbreaks have been in remote location in countries without much infrastructure and transportation. Now it has occurred in countries that don't have a whole lot of infrastructure but do Have high populations and the ability to travel from one country to another, that is the reason its spreading among other reasons.
The last thing that should be done is to transport infected people to other countries that is what they should be trying to stop.
To bring those People here to Die is just exposing the entire Country to a disease that could wipe Us out in a few Years,Then again that could be the plan.
Compare that to bringing sick Americans home to existing facilities. Much cheaper to bring our people home.
The risk of Ebola getting out to the general American population from one of these patients being taken to a modern American facility are so near to zero it's laughable to be scared about it. On the scale of those who lost bladder and bowel control over the fear terrorists would be brought into the American legal and prison system.
Silly fears, based upon worse than an absence of knowledge, more on a denial of knowledge.
The only truly scary thing here is how many Americans have decided to revel in fear more or less as a political statement. Liberals do it about topics like guns, conservatives have their favorite sphincter loosening fears too.
It'd be funny if it didn't get in the way of getting things done so often.
Now for my Tin Foil hat response . I believe they are bringing them back,,and to Atlanta,,home of the CDC, so the Government can get its hands on fresh samples of the virus. What would be a better way for them to get samples into the country
Yeah I was kinda wondering that one myself.
If ebola is so difficult to contract as some would have you believe how come so many of these trained professionals, physicians, including the foremost infectious disease Dr, expert in ebola cases have died from contracting ebola? They use universal precautions, there should be no medical personnel getting sick.
So these doctors, wanting to help people and save lives, take chances to be able to do so.
Sometimes luck goes against them.