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What is the one American made from scratch tool? With its own stamp pressed or stickered on it? There is only one left.[V]
They make their own hand tools, boxes, pneumatics, and the only scan tool you will ever grab.
Its pretty simple...Its dummy proof now.
The only co. that has a 20 year supply of virgin metals on hand.
They make their own hand tools, boxes, pneumatics, and the only scan tool you will ever grab.
Its pretty simple...Its dummy proof now.
The only co. that has a 20 year supply of virgin metals on hand.
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S-K and NAPA Professional jump to the fore-front of my mind right now.
I know you only got so much time. So I want to thank you for that one. Your gona scare me though. Your close. Zulu when you get back to the states let us all welcome your service to us.
Thank you my friend, [:)]
I should of said professional line hand tools, boxes, and pneumatics.
But they are not the only one.
They are the only one with all 3,tools, tool boxes, & pneumatics
Good tools, overpriced, but the snap on man gives you credit...
Don
What is the one American made from scratch tool? With its own stamp pressed or stickered on it? There is only one left.[:(]
D.W. HUSH. I know you already know.[:)]
Indeed its going to be fun to watch.
No posting of any rainbows here please. S-6
As well as I don't need to see the child slave labors in Asia in a factory making tools for the Americans.
Huh? be more specific. Lot's of tool companies have there own foundries.
Stanley...I think they go by New Britian...started making hinges...heck Vaugh melts there own hammers....
Vise-grip
Not since Irwin bought them....
Neither is crescent, or some S&K sets....
Don
Martin Hand Tools
Originally made in Ohio under the Fairmont name, moved to Texas and eventually purchased along with Fort Worth Steel by Martin Sprocket & Gear in the mid 80's. Includes a full line, but their niche is Body and Fender Tools.
Forged, machined, ground, stamped in house. The only OSS work is heat-treating and powder coating.
As far as Proto, Snap-On, Stanley- Yes they maybe made in the states, but not necessarily by them [;)][;)]
Anyone want a plant tour sometime give me a call [:D][;)]
ps. Ask Pete about the Quality!
Martin Hand Tools
Originally made in Ohio under the Fairmont name, moved to Texas and eventually purchased along with Fort Worth Steel by Martin Sprocket & Gear in the mid 80's. Includes a full line, but their niche is Body and Fender Tools.
Forged, machined, ground, stamped in house. The only OSS work is heat-treating and powder coating.
As far as Proto, Snap-On, Stanley- Yes they maybe made in the states, but not necessarily by them [;)][;)]
Anyone want a plant tour sometime give me a call [:D][;)]
ps. Ask Pete about the Quality!
LOL,
I forgot about Martin, great hydraulic wrenches.
And hook & pin spanners to.[;)]
Armstrong is still made in the USA also..
Don
EvilDr235
EvilDr235
quote:Originally posted by burdz19
Martin Hand Tools
Originally made in Ohio under the Fairmont name, moved to Texas and eventually purchased along with Fort Worth Steel by Martin Sprocket & Gear in the mid 80's. Includes a full line, but their niche is Body and Fender Tools.
Forged, machined, ground, stamped in house. The only OSS work is heat-treating and powder coating.
As far as Proto, Snap-On, Stanley- Yes they maybe made in the states, but not necessarily by them [;)][;)]
Anyone want a plant tour sometime give me a call [:D][;)]
ps. Ask Pete about the Quality!
LOL,
I forgot about Martin, great hydraulic wrenches.
And hook & pin spanners to.[;)]
Armstrong is still made in the USA also..
Don
We thank you for your business Don [:)]
I have to remove Martin from the list though, because I missed the post about pnuematic...... We don't sell or make air tools, we sell boxes, but they are an American made buy-out.
The worst thing about Import tools, is you never know what quality of steel is being used. Also, sticking the head of a wrench under a heating torch for 10 seconds doesn't qualify as heat-treated [}:)]
b
Snap on.
But they are not the only one.
They are the only one with all 3,tools, tool boxes, & pneumatics
Good tools, overpriced, but the snap on man gives you credit...
Don
sorry to burst your bubble. i love snap on tools but next time the dealer comes to your shop. ask him why the USA is not stamped on the sockets anymore.
no reason for that premium price anymore.
it really makes me sad.
quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
Snap on.
But they are not the only one.
They are the only one with all 3,tools, tool boxes, & pneumatics
Good tools, overpriced, but the snap on man gives you credit...
Don
sorry to burst your bubble. i love snap on tools but next time the dealer comes to your shop. ask him why the USA is not stamped on the sockets anymore.
no reason for that premium price anymore.
it really makes me sad.
LOL,
No bubble to bust here, I work for the competition [;)][:D]....
Don
Martin Hand Tools
Originally made in Ohio under the Fairmont name, moved to Texas and eventually purchased along with Fort Worth Steel by Martin Sprocket & Gear in the mid 80's. Includes a full line, but their niche is Body and Fender Tools.
Forged, machined, ground, stamped in house. The only OSS work is heat-treating and powder coating.
As far as Proto, Snap-On, Stanley- Yes they maybe made in the states, but not necessarily by them [;)][;)]
Anyone want a plant tour sometime give me a call [:D][;)]
ps. Ask Pete about the Quality!
How are there adjustable "cresent" wrenches?
Funny one.. There was a show on TV about the Stanley tools foundry.
American made wrenches
Blackhawk
Proto
MAC
Husky
Craftsman
Benchtop
NAPA
ALL came from the same factory.
Only different being the dies (molds) that were used to form the tools.
quote:Stanley...I think they go by New Britian..
Funny one.. There was a show on TV about the Stanley tools foundry.
American made wrenches
Blackhawk
Proto
MAC
Husky
Craftsman
Benchtop
NAPA
ALL came from the same factory.
Only different being the dies (molds) that were used to form the tools.
Stanley/Proto/Blackhawk are all the same "company"[;)]....
Don
quote:Originally posted by LesWVa
quote:Stanley...I think they go by New Britian..
Funny one.. There was a show on TV about the Stanley tools foundry.
American made wrenches
Blackhawk
Proto
MAC
Husky
Craftsman
Benchtop
NAPA
ALL came from the same factory.
Only different being the dies (molds) that were used to form the tools.
Stanley/Proto/Blackhawk are all the same "company"[;)]....
Don
Trinity Forged and machined, well elsewhere [;)][}:)][:D]
quote:Originally posted by storm6490
quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
Snap on.
But they are not the only one.
They are the only one with all 3,tools, tool boxes, & pneumatics
Good tools, overpriced, but the snap on man gives you credit...
Don
sorry to burst your bubble. i love snap on tools but next time the dealer comes to your shop. ask him why the USA is not stamped on the sockets anymore.
no reason for that premium price anymore.
it really makes me sad.
LOL,
No bubble to bust here, I work for the competition [;)][:D]....
Don
As far as the ONE American made from scratch tool with its OWN stamp, I am curious to know the answer.
My Dad never owned any SNAP-ON tools. The only car accident I ever remember him having was after his second heart attack. He pulled out in front of a SNAP-ON tool truck. He admitted fault and every time I saw him pick up a SNAP-ON tool he just stood there and shook his head. He said there were tools everywhere after the wreck and he & the tool truck driver were scrambling to get them all picked up out of the road.
Vise Grips say on the package MADE IN THE U.S.A with global components.Cresent has both U.S.A. and China made tools depending on what store you are buying them at. Good store=U.S.A.---Cheapie store=China.
EvilDr235
Yes and no. Of course China companies (many of which are owned by Anerican companies) make cheap junk and ship it to America. Why not? If Americans are dumb enough to buy it it's good business.
But don't ever think that everything made in China is junk. Far from it. They don't export the good stuff to America. Too expensive for the American market.
EvilDr235
I drive a company service truck for work, tools are mine, well most of them. Ford F 250 weighs 8200 lbs empty, with all tools in it and 1/4 tank of fuel, i'm over 11,000 lbs. Just waiting for the DOT guy to weigh me one day, truck is tagged for 10,000 lbs.
Have a wide selection of brands with Sears being the most prominent because if I break one, I can go about anywhere and get it replaced, usualy with just a little hassle. Also have Snap-on, Mac, Cresent, Kobalt, NAPA, Klein, Wright, Proto, BlackHawk, Gedore, Beta and others. Most of the engines I work on now days are made in Austria, means they are metric. If you think the Germans engineer in an odd manner, you ain't seen nothing until you see the stuff the Austrians come up with. Good part is they also come up with the tools to do the job. They have a tool kit that you use to remove/replace a main bearing without dropping the oil pan. You go in through the side of the block, got access ports, but sure is a pain to do. Bearing cap weighs right at 40 pounds. For those engines, Beta or Gedore tools is the way to go, where else you find a double open end wrench 41 mm on one side, 50 mm on the other, 12" long with a deep offset.
I use the tool what works best for the job at hand.
Forgings are made by taking small diameter steel and "hammering" and trimming it into shape. Most tools have the term "dropped forged" on them.
Foundry's pour castings, steel-iron-aluminium-etc. Cost is the factor as well as strength of material. When you forge something, you are actually work hardening it and needs annealling before you ever wanna cut it. Then another round of heat treat and you have a quality USA made tool.
For the RTwing........ been there and seen how the Chinese make their product, inferior metalurgy- H/T and workmanship. Your statement is way off base. It is junk.
To the couple of posters that mentioned "foundry"....... If you can find a "quality" tool that started out as a casting and not a forging and a full grown man can pick it without a forklift....... I'll buy you a steak.
Forgings are made by taking small diameter steel and "hammering" and trimming it into shape. Most tools have the term "dropped forged" on them.
Foundry's pour castings, steel-iron-aluminium-etc. Cost is the factor as well as strength of material. When you forge something, you are actually work hardening it and needs annealling before you ever wanna cut it. Then another round of heat treat and you have a quality USA made tool.
For the RTwing........ been there and seen how the Chinese make their product, inferior metalurgy- H/T and workmanship. Your statement is way off base. It is junk.
I appreciate what you're saying. I've been there too. More than 3o times. Have many cutting and measuring tools that I have brought back over the years. They are first class tools. That's why I buy them in China, but they're not cheap price.
quote:Originally posted by burdz19
To the couple of posters that mentioned "foundry"....... If you can find a "quality" tool that started out as a casting and not a forging and a full grown man can pick it without a forklift....... I'll buy you a steak.
Forgings are made by taking small diameter steel and "hammering" and trimming it into shape. Most tools have the term "dropped forged" on them.
Foundry's pour castings, steel-iron-aluminium-etc. Cost is the factor as well as strength of material. When you forge something, you are actually work hardening it and needs annealling before you ever wanna cut it. Then another round of heat treat and you have a quality USA made tool.
For the RTwing........ been there and seen how the Chinese make their product, inferior metalurgy- H/T and workmanship. Your statement is way off base. It is junk.
I appreciate what you're saying. I've been there too. More than 3o times. Have many cutting and measuring tools that I have brought back over the years. They are first class tools. That's why I buy them in China, but they're not cheap price.
Then you have been to better factories than I have and I respect your opinion. I also agree that they can make better than what they sell here, because Americans for the most part will buy cheap rather than quality. I have a good friend that works for a US import company that is making a killing while I lay people off. I still go back to the fact that the steel they are made from is inferior as is their finishing practices. I would hate to see the tool makes go the way of the machine tool makers......... I still have Bullards running in my shop that could never be matched by the cheap crap coming out of Taiwan, Japan, and now China...... Sorry to take this thread south but penetraitor asked a question about my backyard.[;)]
I'm gonna have to say "CHANNEL-LOCK".
no tool boxes or air tools, I missed that post also
come on penetraitor............ spill it
quote:Originally posted by burdz19
To the couple of posters that mentioned "foundry"....... If you can find a "quality" tool that started out as a casting and not a forging and a full grown man can pick it without a forklift....... I'll buy you a steak.
Forgings are made by taking small diameter steel and "hammering" and trimming it into shape. Most tools have the term "dropped forged" on them.
Foundry's pour castings, steel-iron-aluminium-etc. Cost is the factor as well as strength of material. When you forge something, you are actually work hardening it and needs annealling before you ever wanna cut it. Then another round of heat treat and you have a quality USA made tool.
For the RTwing........ been there and seen how the Chinese make their product, inferior metalurgy- H/T and workmanship. Your statement is way off base. It is junk.
I appreciate what you're saying. I've been there too. More than 3o times. Have many cutting and measuring tools that I have brought back over the years. They are first class tools. That's why I buy them in China, but they're not cheap price.
Then why buy them in China.....
Don
quote:Originally posted by RtWngExtrmst
quote:Originally posted by burdz19
To the couple of posters that mentioned "foundry"....... If you can find a "quality" tool that started out as a casting and not a forging and a full grown man can pick it without a forklift....... I'll buy you a steak.
Forgings are made by taking small diameter steel and "hammering" and trimming it into shape. Most tools have the term "dropped forged" on them.
Foundry's pour castings, steel-iron-aluminium-etc. Cost is the factor as well as strength of material. When you forge something, you are actually work hardening it and needs annealling before you ever wanna cut it. Then another round of heat treat and you have a quality USA made tool.
For the RTwing........ been there and seen how the Chinese make their product, inferior metalurgy- H/T and workmanship. Your statement is way off base. It is junk.
I appreciate what you're saying. I've been there too. More than 3o times. Have many cutting and measuring tools that I have brought back over the years. They are first class tools. That's why I buy them in China, but they're not cheap price.
Then why buy them in China.....
Don
For one reason, I admire the ingunity and quality. For another, I found tools not available in US.
quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
quote:Originally posted by RtWngExtrmst
quote:Originally posted by burdz19
To the couple of posters that mentioned "foundry"....... If you can find a "quality" tool that started out as a casting and not a forging and a full grown man can pick it without a forklift....... I'll buy you a steak.
Forgings are made by taking small diameter steel and "hammering" and trimming it into shape. Most tools have the term "dropped forged" on them.
Foundry's pour castings, steel-iron-aluminium-etc. Cost is the factor as well as strength of material. When you forge something, you are actually work hardening it and needs annealling before you ever wanna cut it. Then another round of heat treat and you have a quality USA made tool.
For the RTwing........ been there and seen how the Chinese make their product, inferior metalurgy- H/T and workmanship. Your statement is way off base. It is junk.
I appreciate what you're saying. I've been there too. More than 3o times. Have many cutting and measuring tools that I have brought back over the years. They are first class tools. That's why I buy them in China, but they're not cheap price.
Then why buy them in China.....
Don
For one reason, I admire the ingunity and quality. For another, I found tools not available in US.
Sorry Rtwing I call BS on "ingunity", they started up with blueprints sent from USA manufactures looking for a cheaper deal. Reverse Design is not "ingunity". Brian