In order to participate in the GunBroker Member forums, you must be logged in with your GunBroker.com account. Click the sign-in button at the top right of the forums page to get connected.
quote:Originally posted by Frank Goad
quote:Originally posted by watchmaker
quote:Originally posted by cce1302
I'm having nightmares now of flashlights chasing me into the woods where I see a deer mount stuck on a tree next to a no trespassing sign. Luckily Doug Wilson wakes me up before I'm impaled on the antlers with cries of "SPAM" and "free advertising."
Free advertising my butt, I have spent thousand of dollars in lights, TIME and dedication doing the beam shots.
Perhaps you will be happy if I stack a $50 ticket to each Borealis to pay for advertising that I don't need because I don't want to work overtime.
At 63 and retired, I need to enjoy the time that I have left for hunting, fly fishing, bird watching and chasing girls.
The Borealis is just another hobby and I have enough dough that I don't need to do it my live hood.
Watchmaker
WATCHMAKER with all due respect This general forum I think is kinda like a chat room whare people ask questions or give there oppinion on different things or they might comment on a post or to reply to someone elses oppinion. Personally I think everybody is intitled to their own oppinion. It is apparent that you have GREAT knowlege in this subject and if I were ever to have any questions about flashlights or anything pertaining to this subject, you would be the man I would contact. But come on You have to admit your post really does look like a sales brochure. But thats my oppinion and who the heck am I? I cant even spell good!
Hey WATCHMAKER its me again, I almost forgot to wish you and your family a Merry Christmass. I can only imagin how beautiful your Christmass lights are. Have a safe and wonderful Holiday season.
Spammer...#8207;
From: Doug Wilson (thunderboltranch@msn.com)
Sent: Fri 12/21/07 10:17 AM
To: David Nunn (gpd035@sbcglobal.net)
Cc: Me Me (thunderboltranch@msn.com)
Dear David,
Don't you agree that this guy has pushed the limits of GunBroker's policies a little too far ??
I'm going to post this on his thread as well.
I know you are a busy Man.
I wish you and those you love the best possible Christmas.
Frank Goad said......."But come on You have to admit your post really does look like a sales brochure....."
It could be a sales brochure but it could also be a informal form of the scientific method. Some people think, learn and teach that way. I understand that a line/limits for posting has to be drawn somewhere. He has made us aware of his flashlights and flashlight literate but I missed the sales pitch. He refered me to Surefire and mentioned Wal Mart as a source for a flashlight so he won't make much money that way. If he has flashlights for sale teach him how to list, edit out any sales pitches, and call the thread a "shameless plug". The information has been helpful to me. The Shot Show starts in 42 days and I hope to learn more before I go.
A google search shows the same tactics being used on at least 20 other forums.
Here's some info from the manufacturer's own manual:
Also avoid touching the interior of the reflector as any fingerprints will degrade it, and also the metalizing is very delicate and only blowing air should be used to clean it.
-So if you touch the reflector, it's toast.
To protect the bulb, don't flash the light in very short bursts. It takes a minimum of 15 seconds for the halogenxenon gas to get hot enough to allow the tungsten filament to recycle properly.
-You have to turn it on and let it warm up for 15 seconds (minimum) before it'll work to spec.
Allow batteries fresh from charger to "rest" for one hour and thirty minutes to two hours (depending on how long they have been in trickle charge) before using the light... If the batteries are not allowed to rest, the extra voltage will probably instaflash the bulb when the light is turned on. So let them rest for a MINIMUM OF ONE HOUR AND THIRTY MINUTES.
-Yeah, that sounds real convenient. Try to use the thing less than an hour and a half after you charge the batteries and POOF goes the souper-zoot bulb.
Recharge the batteries as soon as the light starts dimming, don't allow the beam to go yellow. If the batteries are discharged too much, they can possibly go into reverse polarity and that will kill them.
-Another thing that needs to be babied or you'll have a dead light and be spending a chunk of money and time to get it running.
From the Bear Cub model manual:
If the batteries try to spring out of the charger, a rubber band around the charger and the batteries will secure them. One of the batteries, (the last one to enter the flashlight) had the skirt cut open for maximum contact with the tailcap spring. Please wait at least two hours after charging the batteries before installing.
-Really sophisticated.
Like the Cap'n once said, that's an awful lot of caveats and addenda.
Besides the dishonesty of advertising trying to pass as an interested third party, I'll say thanks but no thanks to Black Bear flashlights.
After been in several major forums for three years (the time I own a computer) and posting about lights,answering questions and building my Borealis light, I thought everybody knew me already.
I am Black Bear/Black Bwear 84 in most forums, the change to Watchmaker come about because after retiring from watch making I had more time to visit the forums, BUT I found some others black bears.
So to avoid confusion I changed my handle to watchmaker.
Nothing dishonest about that.
Mr. Orange wasted a lot of time quoting from the manual of the Bear Cub, I have a new charger for it that will not need a rubber band to hold the batteries in place, it sound like nitpicking to me, trying to discredit the light that you don't know anything about.
The thread "Lights for CCW and law enforcement" is new in this forum but have a year in others forums, with a LOT more reviews posted.
If some members are interested in lights, you will find a LOT of information about them in my thread, if you are not interested stop attacking my person and my lights of which you don't know nothing about.
Of course if I am going to review somebody elses lights, I am going to review my own Borealis or Bear Cub or other lights that I do with my own two hands.
You you want to call my reviews SPAM or free advertising, it should apply for all the lights I am reviewing, Surefire, Fenix, RayOVac, Maglites and others benefit from the same "free advertisement".
I know they call them "discussion forums" but I refuse to waste my time discussing anything when I can use my time more profitable, it seems that are a lot of people here that have nothing better to do, than to attack a new member.
This thread reads like some sort of commercial advertise ment and that is prohibited under the posting guidelines. It's also turning a little argumentative. I hesitate to delete it because I'm not 100% sure it's inappropriate for the forum and somer members have said they gained some good info from it. I'm going to lock it and if nunn disagrees then he can unlock it.
....................................................................................................
Too old to live...too young to die...
I originally locked this but since so many folks (with one exception) seem to want it available I'll unlock it. Don't know what more there is to add to the thread but have it since it seems so important to some of you.
....................................................................................................
Too old to live...too young to die...
Comments
quote:Originally posted by watchmaker
quote:Originally posted by cce1302
I'm having nightmares now of flashlights chasing me into the woods where I see a deer mount stuck on a tree next to a no trespassing sign. Luckily Doug Wilson wakes me up before I'm impaled on the antlers with cries of "SPAM" and "free advertising."
Free advertising my butt, I have spent thousand of dollars in lights, TIME and dedication doing the beam shots.
Perhaps you will be happy if I stack a $50 ticket to each Borealis to pay for advertising that I don't need because I don't want to work overtime.
At 63 and retired, I need to enjoy the time that I have left for hunting, fly fishing, bird watching and chasing girls.
The Borealis is just another hobby and I have enough dough that I don't need to do it my live hood.
Watchmaker
WATCHMAKER with all due respect This general forum I think is kinda like a chat room whare people ask questions or give there oppinion on different things or they might comment on a post or to reply to someone elses oppinion. Personally I think everybody is intitled to their own oppinion. It is apparent that you have GREAT knowlege in this subject and if I were ever to have any questions about flashlights or anything pertaining to this subject, you would be the man I would contact. But come on You have to admit your post really does look like a sales brochure. But thats my oppinion and who the heck am I? I cant even spell good!
Hey WATCHMAKER its me again, I almost forgot to wish you and your family a Merry Christmass. I can only imagin how beautiful your Christmass lights are. Have a safe and wonderful Holiday season.
From: Doug Wilson (thunderboltranch@msn.com)
Sent: Fri 12/21/07 10:17 AM
To: David Nunn (gpd035@sbcglobal.net)
Cc: Me Me (thunderboltranch@msn.com)
Dear David,
Don't you agree that this guy has pushed the limits of GunBroker's policies a little too far ??
I'm going to post this on his thread as well.
I know you are a busy Man.
I wish you and those you love the best possible Christmas.
Best regards,
Doug Wilson
It could be a sales brochure but it could also be a informal form of the scientific method. Some people think, learn and teach that way. I understand that a line/limits for posting has to be drawn somewhere. He has made us aware of his flashlights and flashlight literate but I missed the sales pitch. He refered me to Surefire and mentioned Wal Mart as a source for a flashlight so he won't make much money that way. If he has flashlights for sale teach him how to list, edit out any sales pitches, and call the thread a "shameless plug". The information has been helpful to me. The Shot Show starts in 42 days and I hope to learn more before I go.
Got Guns?
watchmaker says he's just interested in flashlights and wanted to take some beamshots.
The pictures are straight from the Borealis manufacturer's site.
The name on his photobucket album is blackbear, which is the manufacturer.
Somebody already tried the "Hey, look what I found" routine.
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=268836
A google search shows the same tactics being used on at least 20 other forums.
Here's some info from the manufacturer's own manual:
Also avoid touching the interior of the reflector as any fingerprints will degrade it, and also the metalizing is very delicate and only blowing air should be used to clean it.
-So if you touch the reflector, it's toast.
To protect the bulb, don't flash the light in very short bursts. It takes a minimum of 15 seconds for the halogenxenon gas to get hot enough to allow the tungsten filament to recycle properly.
-You have to turn it on and let it warm up for 15 seconds (minimum) before it'll work to spec.
Allow batteries fresh from charger to "rest" for one hour and thirty minutes to two hours (depending on how long they have been in trickle charge) before using the light... If the batteries are not allowed to rest, the extra voltage will probably instaflash the bulb when the light is turned on. So let them rest for a MINIMUM OF ONE HOUR AND THIRTY MINUTES.
-Yeah, that sounds real convenient. Try to use the thing less than an hour and a half after you charge the batteries and POOF goes the souper-zoot bulb.
Recharge the batteries as soon as the light starts dimming, don't allow the beam to go yellow. If the batteries are discharged too much, they can possibly go into reverse polarity and that will kill them.
-Another thing that needs to be babied or you'll have a dead light and be spending a chunk of money and time to get it running.
From the Bear Cub model manual:
If the batteries try to spring out of the charger, a rubber band around the charger and the batteries will secure them. One of the batteries, (the last one to enter the flashlight) had the skirt cut open for maximum contact with the tailcap spring. Please wait at least two hours after charging the batteries before installing.
-Really sophisticated.
Like the Cap'n once said, that's an awful lot of caveats and addenda.
Besides the dishonesty of advertising trying to pass as an interested third party, I'll say thanks but no thanks to Black Bear flashlights.
I am Black Bear/Black Bwear 84 in most forums, the change to Watchmaker come about because after retiring from watch making I had more time to visit the forums, BUT I found some others black bears.
So to avoid confusion I changed my handle to watchmaker.
Nothing dishonest about that.
Mr. Orange wasted a lot of time quoting from the manual of the Bear Cub, I have a new charger for it that will not need a rubber band to hold the batteries in place, it sound like nitpicking to me, trying to discredit the light that you don't know anything about.
The thread "Lights for CCW and law enforcement" is new in this forum but have a year in others forums, with a LOT more reviews posted.
If some members are interested in lights, you will find a LOT of information about them in my thread, if you are not interested stop attacking my person and my lights of which you don't know nothing about.
Of course if I am going to review somebody elses lights, I am going to review my own Borealis or Bear Cub or other lights that I do with my own two hands.
You you want to call my reviews SPAM or free advertising, it should apply for all the lights I am reviewing, Surefire, Fenix, RayOVac, Maglites and others benefit from the same "free advertisement".
I know they call them "discussion forums" but I refuse to waste my time discussing anything when I can use my time more profitable, it seems that are a lot of people here that have nothing better to do, than to attack a new member.
Happy Holidays
Watchmaker/Black Bear
Too old to live...too young to die...
Too old to live...too young to die...
So what is the deal with advertised lumens? I always figured a lumen was a lumen.