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I sure am glad Global Warming is a myth

Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
edited April 2008 in General Discussion
otherwise, these images would be a little disturbing....

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Source: National Snow and Ice Data Center: Sea Ice Index
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    Oklahoma223Oklahoma223 Member Posts: 2,648 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Unless of course, you could care less.

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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A brilliant counter-stoke, Oklahoma...I'm sure Optimus Prime is proud
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    Oklahoma223Oklahoma223 Member Posts: 2,648 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    You know, I have my moments.
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    204targetman204targetman Member Posts: 3,493
    edited November -1
    I wonder how many times in the history of this planet the same thing has happened? It could possibly be a natural cycle. Of course I also have to agree with oklahome. I really dont care. I hate cold weather anyway......
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    Oklahoma223Oklahoma223 Member Posts: 2,648 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm his pride and joy.
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    SDeadeyeSDeadeye Member Posts: 178 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What about the fact that this past year has been cold enough that the 2* warm up in global temperature has been completely undone? Or that CO2 is such a small fraction of our atmosphere that it couldn't cause the changes that Al Gore invented. What happened to the hole in our atmosphere that was going to let all the suns radiation in and turn the earth into a giant microwave? Haven't heard about that one for a few years, the fad must have worn off.
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Why don't you add one from March of '08 that shows how the ice caps have been completely replenished???
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    remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by SDeadeye
    What about the fact that this past year has been cold enough that the 2* warm up in global temperature has been completely undone? Or that CO2 is such a small fraction of our atmosphere that it couldn't cause the changes that Al Gore invented. What happened to the hole in our atmosphere that was going to let all the suns radiation in and turn the earth into a giant microwave? Haven't heard about that one for a few years, the fad must have worn off.
    do you really think the scientists have a clue
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    204targetman204targetman Member Posts: 3,493
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    Why don't you add one from March of '08 that shows how the ice caps have been completely replenished???

    What fun would that be?? If your gonna make something up....you got to stick with it....
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    Why don't you add one from March of '08 that shows how the ice caps have been completely replenished???



    Because the March image hasn't been released yet...
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just out of curiousity, how exactly do you define "completely replenished"?
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    He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 50,964 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    And please ECC, explain how the Antartic ice cap is replenished in summer. It is melting faster than ever.
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    D1D1 Member Posts: 11,412
    edited November -1
    You're about to be chastised if you keep arguing.
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    nordnord Member Posts: 6,106
    edited November -1
    Gentlemen -

    Give us all a break here. GLOBAL CHANGE, not global warming. To say that human emissions have had no effect on our environment is preposterous. But to say that we humans have materially changed anything is also a load of bovine dung.

    Which brings to point... When a whale farts, does the PH of the ocean change? When you drop a pebble into the ocean on Long Island, does the resulting wavelet reach Africa?

    And finally... Does any of this really matter?[;)]
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    CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No-No. Weather is to stay the same is just as logical as geography is to stay the same. The ocean coast is not to erode. Rivers and creeks are not to shift. WE FEAR CHANGE!!!!!!

    OH MY GOSH!!!

    OUR ICEBERG IS MELTING!!!!

    WE ARE DOOMED!!!!!
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nord

    And finally... Does any of this really matter?[;)]


    Does climate change matter? Um, yes it does...Just ask the folks who are making a killin' now that the "Northwest Passage" is now open.

    Does this thread really matter in the overall scheme of things?
    Of course not [;)]
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:And finally... Does any of this really matter?


    nope...provided we keep the alarmists at bay. If we buy into their crap, we give them the leverage to use to use their propaganda to control and tax us to death. Global warming is about control and $$$$...nothing else.
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    Global warming is about control and $$$$...nothing else.


    I thought it was about demanding data that doesn't exist (March 08 sat images) or refusing to provide a definition ("completely replenished") that explains the crux of your argument.
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    SW 357MagSW 357Mag Member Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    If we buy into their crap, we give them the leverage to use to use their propaganda to control and tax us to death.

    And here we find the true motivation behind the argument.

    ECC sees this not as a matter of science, but of ideological purity. This isn't about the pursuit of truth, its to keep the other side from gaining "leverage"

    Thanks for making the point so succinct. [:)]
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    Colonel PlinkColonel Plink Member Posts: 16,460
    edited November -1
    Oh, yeah, laugh on, funny boys.

    Last year, I bought half a million acres of "Prime Ice Shelf Real Estate", according to the brocure.

    What the HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THAT NOW, HUH!!??


    sniff.
    hold me...
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    Colt SuperColt Super Member Posts: 31,007
    edited November -1
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    dolfandolfan Member Posts: 4,159
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    Global warming is about control and $$$$...nothing else.


    I thought it was about demanding data that doesn't exist
    Rack Ops, you want data? Click on these 297 links and knock yourself out. This is from The Schnitt Show...a popular radio host in the South. He has one of the largest archives of links debunking Global Warming. Most are from top scientist.

    Note: If the links don't work, go to his site to access the links.
    http://schnittshow.newsradio610.com/globalwarming.html

    ETA: Sorry, the links below don't work by C&P them.
    Go to Schnitt's site, that link works, and go from there.


    Schnitt's Global Warming Files

    [Video] - The Great Global Warming Swindle
    [Google] - The Great Global Warming Swindle
    [Video] - Dr. Gray: People not to blame for global warming
    So how did An Inconvenient Truth become required classroom viewing? Even climate change experts say many of the claims in Al Gore's film are wrong. Kevin Libin
    Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System
    [Audio] - Dr. Gray Talks with Schnitt regarding Global Warming 05-22-2007 - Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 | Part 5 | Part 6
    INHOFE OPENING STATEMENT: The Issue of the Potential Impacts of Global Warming on Recreation and the Recreation Industry" May 24, 2007
    Junk Science: Hot Air Study Melts Global Warming Theory By Steven Milloy
    NASA Administrator Michael Griffin Questions Need to Combat Warming
    Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System
    Global warming -- just "hysteria"?
    "Former German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt called for an end to the 'hysteria' over global warming in the lead-up to the [Group of Eight] summit
    Meteorologist: `Al Gore's Global Warming is the Biggest Myth of the Century'
    Cut & paste: Greenhouse gas emissions do not lead to global warming
    Global Overheating by Jay D. Homnick
    Kilimanjaro not a victim of climate change, UW scientist says By Sandi Doughton
    Study: Kilimanjaro's shrinking snow not sign of warming
    Prius Outdoes Hummer in Environmental Damage By Chris Demorro
    High price for load of hot air
    Helping along global warming By Bill Steigerwald
    Local scientist calls global warming theory 'hooey' Samara Kalk Derby
    Read the sunspots R. TIMOTHY PATTERSON
    Read the sunspots - The mud at the bottom of B.C. fjords reveals that solar output drives climate change - and that we should prepare now for dangerous global cooling R. TIMOTHY PATTERSON
    Global warming skeptics score a few points By TED BYFIELD
    Richard Burr Left-winger counters global warming hysteria
    Global Warming Hysteria is a National Security Issue By Gerd Schroeder
    ABC's Global Warming Piece Ignores Decades of Hysteria from NASA's James Hansen
    An Archive of Resources on Global Warming, Division of Marine Sciences and Ecological Sciences, College of Arts & Sciences, Florida Gulf Coast University, Fort Myers, Florida, Edward T. "Terry" Wimberley, Ph.D., Professor, Division of Marine and Ecological Sciences
    Manmade Global Warming: The Real Assault on Reason By Marc Sheppard
    Alarmist global warming claims melt under scientific scrutiny BY JAMES M. TAYLOR
    Oldest DNA ever recovered shows warmer planet: report
    Ancient Greenland was actually green! DNA analysis reveals ice-covered country was once home to butterflies By Ker Than
    Cows that burp less aid climate fight Findings show new diets make them belch less, reduces greenhouse gas
    Global warming debunked By ANDREW SWALLOW
    All in a Good Cause By Orson Scott Card
    EPA to Probe Threatening E-Mail Sent to Global Warming Skeptic
    Latest Scientific Studies Refute Fears of Greenland Melt
    Global warming? Look at the numbers Lorne Gunter
    Blogger Finds Bug in NASA Global Warming Study?
    Blogger Finds Y2K Bug in NASA Climate Data
    [PDF] - Global Warming: Man-Made or Natural? S. Fred Singer Professor Emeritus, Environmental Sciences University of Virginia
    Breaking: Less Than Half of all Published Scientists Endorse Global Warming Theory
    Challenge to Scientific Consensus on Global Warming: Analysis Finds Hundreds of Scientists Have Published Evidence Countering Man-Made Global Warming Fears
    One More Reason to Distrust Global Warming Predictions By Jerome J. Schmitt
    The 'Old' Consensus? INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
    Carbon dioxide did not end the last Ice Age
    [Video] - CNN Meteorologist: `Definitely Some Inaccuracies' in Gore Film
    Evidence of Dire Global Warming Effects Scant
    John Stossel Exposes Global Warming Myths
    Most Preposterous Claim Ever [Iain Murray]
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    gatorhidegatorhide Member Posts: 562 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ...I agree. Global Climate change is not a myth
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    FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,278 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Cut down a tree for more solar power![:D] (just ribbing ya'll)
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    codemancodeman Member Posts: 272 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You realize of course, when you speak out against man made global warning you are denegrating the religous beliefs of many members, contrary to counsel from our leaders.
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    Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 39,411 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    Global warming in NOT a myth. MAN MADE global warming IS a myth.
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    SawzSawz Member Posts: 6,049
    edited November -1
    I love it when moderators argue
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dolfan

    Rack Ops, you want data? Click on these 297 links and knock yourself out.

    I'll pass, thanks. A quick scan through the list shows several "studies" which have been thoroughly debunked

    quote:Originally posted by dolfan
    He has one of the largest archives of links debunking Global Warming. Most are from top scientist.

    Freudian slip, perhaps? [:D]

    Sorry, couldn't resist
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    dolfandolfan Member Posts: 4,159
    edited November -1
    Sorry for the typo...but don't be so quick to discard all the studies.

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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Wow, thats two Al Gore pictures....

    Maybe if I added some stupid Sean Hannity pics I can add some intellectual weight to my position...
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dolfan
    Sorry for the typo...but don't be so quick to discard all the studies.


    I haven't disregarded all of those studies....just the ones I've actually took the time to read
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    bhale187bhale187 Member Posts: 7,798
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    Why don't you add one from March of '08 that shows how the ice caps have been completely replenished???



    Because the March image hasn't been released yet...

    But Feb 2008 does exist, and it shows double the sq km of the 1979 base image you provided.

    Want a definition of fully replinished? How about doubled in size? would that qualify?

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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bhale187
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    Why don't you add one from March of '08 that shows how the ice caps have been completely replenished???



    Because the March image hasn't been released yet...

    But Feb 2008 does exist, and it shows double the sq km of the 1979 base image you provided.

    Want a definition of fully replinished? How about doubled in size? would that qualify?

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    [:D][:D][:D]...works for me.
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    blogdog37blogdog37 Member Posts: 372 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In direct conflict with Indian religious stories of creation, generations of archeologists, anthropologists, and geolistws - in their quest for the American past - have sifted evidence, and pondered it.

    Three ice ages existed and primitive forms of humanity wandered across the bering strait a body of water separating Alaska from Sibera in modern times. The Sea fell 400 feet to make this possible, other evidence that orientals walked on to this North America are that American Indians have fluted incissors just as the present day orientals have.

    The climate is changing, however, the why offers no empiric scientific evidence, man made changes are not impossible, but not a proveable scientific fact.
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    CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gatorhide
    ...I agree. Global Climate change is not a myth



    We fear change.

    Or maybe it is The Error of Associating Non-Related Events.
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    SDeadeyeSDeadeye Member Posts: 178 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It wasn't global climate change until it snowed on all their global warming conferences. [:D]
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    redneckandyredneckandy Member Posts: 9,687 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I still blame the Chinese for global warming.
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    IAMAHUSKERIAMAHUSKER Member Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What happened to Rack Ops?? You wanted proof and you have it. Comments??
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    MIKE WISKEYMIKE WISKEY Member, Moderator Posts: 9,976 ******
    edited November -1
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