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Actually, neither of them said Trump's speech was anti-Semitic but rather that the tone reminded them of anti-Semitic speeches given by others. As per usual they don't cite specifics, they just give their opinion. This is a trick often employed by those who can't make their case - they give an opinion or attack personality rather than issues. Gun owners should be used to it. When gun control is discussed it's never "here are the facts that support my anti-gun position" but rather "gunowners don't care about dead children".[:(!]
An old trick employed by our friends on the left.
I hung out at the San Francisco rally tonight. Someone commented to me how great it was to which I responded "sorry, my guy won ...." After the "he's a racist" comment came back I said that 95% of our Presidents were "racist" so what's the problem with one more? [;)][;)]
quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
quote:Originally posted by Jgreen
It wasn't anti Semitic. It was just retarded.
Why not just say "ok Russia and China, the world is yours."
But maybe I heard wrong. Maybe I should have listened to what was in his heart.
You said this on another thread,..."I have stayed off the boards for about a year."
How about seeing if you can break your old record?
BTW, your boy Barry will be back soon to flap his gums once more. You need not be lonely and frightened for much longer.
That's funny. I was thinking the same thing.
He took a couple shots at me in that previous thread.
"Self- aggrandizing," because I stated it bothered me to have worked hard my entire life, and rarely treat myself to steak, while watching the overweight EBT card user in front of me load the counter up with high end items then go out and climb in a high end SUV.
Because yeah, thats me, the "self-aggrandizing," EBT basher. LOL. [:0][xx(]
Dad, There's really no point in Discussing facts with you. Assuming you have chugged the trump kool aid (or knock off kool aid), even the most basic fact, a number, (in this case attendance numbers) is ignored. Trumps press secretary got up there and lied about the numbers, and when Chuck Todd called him out on it, Conway said that he was giving "alternative facts".
Holy Shi-!!!
Alternative facts. Look into his heart. All bullshi-, and the fact that you can't even admit that is "sad".
To the question of anti semitic. The question outlines part of what is wrong in our politically correct state of affairs in the United States today.
The only plug in the inaugurating of 2017 was by the Rabbi pushing the support Israel agenda with the certain chapter and verses of his motive.
This is our country. The US is united under many colors and religions under God. However, America comes first all that other liberal crap is history...
quote:Originally posted by Jgreen
Still here, still amazed that when push comes to shove, and when confronted with facts, so many of you retreat to name calling.
Someone commented upon my "unwarranted" feelings of superiority.
It may come as a shock to you, but my feelings of superiority are completely warranted.
quote:Originally posted by Jgreen
Dad, There's really no point in Discussing facts with you. Assuming you have chugged the trump kool aid (or knock off kool aid), even the most basic fact, a number, (in this case attendance numbers) is ignored. Trumps press secretary got up there and lied about the numbers, and when Chuck Todd called him out on it, Conway said that he was giving "alternative facts".
Holy Shi-!!!
Alternative facts. Look into his heart. All bullshi-, and the fact that you can't even admit that is "sad".
The point is YA, that you said facts were ignored when you hadn't posted any. Now you want to talk about attendance numbers claimed. You do real use that there are no official attendance numbers, right? The Parks Service does not issue any. The numbers floating out there are estimates from various groups, each with their own particular dog in the fight. Conway's point is quite simple: there is nothing wrong with the numbers/facts from the Trump administration that cannot also be ascribed to any others.
BTW, F'Chuck Todd and the rest of the media have worked very hard to avoid mentioning the threats of violence from leftist groups, and the actual blockading of entry points by leftist thugs and the possible effect of each on attendance. I don't suppose thuggish behavior bothers you.
We could also have a nice discussion of what effect on attendance numbers for so many of CJ's supporters to both live in DC and Baltimore...and not have jobs to worry about.
As for using other factors, sure you can do that. But first you would have to figure out why the media is intent on showing a picture of the crowd at Obama's inauguration at the moment of the swearing in, then showing a picture of the crowd at Trump's inauguration that is several hours before the swearing in.
For extra credit, see if you can find the stories from 2009 where the media was focused on comparing crowd size from other inaugurations within minutes of the ceremony.
quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
quote:Originally posted by Jgreen
Still here, still amazed that when push comes to shove, and when confronted with facts, so many of you retreat to name calling.
Someone commented upon my "unwarranted" feelings of superiority.
It may come as a shock to you, but my feelings of superiority are completely warranted.
[8D][8D]
Perhaps in your own mind.
I'm still waiting for an answer, predictably not addressed but moved on to other items.
So there's evidently no point in discussing the earlier assertion regarding Russia and China and the parts of the speech that were "moronic and retarded". A quick segue off to other issues like crowd size, but of course that's a dodge for those who can't make their case. I think folks here are savvy enough to recognize the ruse. The longer it goes on the more evident it becomes.
According to Wikipedia:
"Poisoning the well (or attempting to poison the well) is a fallacy where irrelevant adverse information about a target is preemptively presented to an audience, with the intention of discrediting or ridiculing everything that the target person is about to say."
Accusing Trump of being like Hitler caused too much backlash for the violent leftists, so they switched to the term "anti-semitic", which they thought would play better with low educations supporters. They have no shame.
quote:So there's evidently no point in discussing the earlier assertion regarding Russia and China and the parts of the speech that were "moronic and retarded". A quick segue off to other issues like crowd size, but of course that's a dodge for those who can't make their case. I think folks here are savvy enough to recognize the ruse. The longer it goes on the more evident it becomes.
Happy to discuss it. Moronic and retarded, because isolationism is a failed policy that never works.
All that it does is embolden the bad guys, until the bad guys are a real threat to us.
He was clear that the US isn't going to intervene into international matters. He just told China and Russia that they have carte blanche to do what they want. He just told the rest of the world that if they want help, knock on someone else's door.
Guess what? They will knock on someone else's door. And that won't be good for us.
He just got up there and told the world about "American Carnage", which by the way is complete bullshi-, and told the world how awful America is. Propaganda for the rest of the world.
He's just told the world that America is a wounded animal.
I'm not going to sit there and say that everything is terrific here, but it's not like "Escape from New York".
You know, the inauguration is supposed to be a joyous occasion, to celebrate our democracy, celebrate America, etc. He just got up there and said we suck.
We don't suck, and it's offensive for him to get up there and dog us to the rest of the world.
Does anyone really, really think that we as a nation ever did anything that wasn't "America First"? It may be hard to see, and it may not have worked, but I don't think that we have ever acted in anything but our own self interests. When we intervene somewhere on earth, we expect something in return.
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i am sure we have at least 2 posting members that agree, for the life of me i cannot see it
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/01/20/msnbc-abc-hosts-deem-trump-inaugural-address-as-militant-anti-semitic.html
Actually, neither of them said Trump's speech was anti-Semitic but rather that the tone reminded them of anti-Semitic speeches given by others. As per usual they don't cite specifics, they just give their opinion. This is a trick often employed by those who can't make their case - they give an opinion or attack personality rather than issues. Gun owners should be used to it. When gun control is discussed it's never "here are the facts that support my anti-gun position" but rather "gunowners don't care about dead children".[:(!]
An old trick employed by our friends on the left.
I hung out at the San Francisco rally tonight. Someone commented to me how great it was to which I responded "sorry, my guy won ...." After the "he's a racist" comment came back I said that 95% of our Presidents were "racist" so what's the problem with one more? [;)][;)]
quote:Originally posted by Jgreen
It wasn't anti Semitic. It was just retarded.
Why not just say "ok Russia and China, the world is yours."
But maybe I heard wrong. Maybe I should have listened to what was in his heart.
You said this on another thread,..."I have stayed off the boards for about a year."
How about seeing if you can break your old record?
BTW, your boy Barry will be back soon to flap his gums once more. You need not be lonely and frightened for much longer.
That's funny. I was thinking the same thing.
He took a couple shots at me in that previous thread.
"Self- aggrandizing," because I stated it bothered me to have worked hard my entire life, and rarely treat myself to steak, while watching the overweight EBT card user in front of me load the counter up with high end items then go out and climb in a high end SUV.
Because yeah, thats me, the "self-aggrandizing," EBT basher. LOL. [:0][xx(]
Thanks for the laugh there Partner.
You still here?? [:o)]
Someone commented upon my "unwarranted" feelings of superiority.
It may come as a shock to you, but my feelings of superiority are completely warranted.
[8D][8D]
Thanks for illustrating the point.
And as with the other assist leftists here, you claim to have provided facts, yet you have not.
Holy Shi-!!!
Alternative facts. Look into his heart. All bullshi-, and the fact that you can't even admit that is "sad".
The only plug in the inaugurating of 2017 was by the Rabbi pushing the support Israel agenda with the certain chapter and verses of his motive.
This is our country. The US is united under many colors and religions under God. However, America comes first all that other liberal crap is history...
Still here, still amazed that when push comes to shove, and when confronted with facts, so many of you retreat to name calling.
Someone commented upon my "unwarranted" feelings of superiority.
It may come as a shock to you, but my feelings of superiority are completely warranted.
[8D][8D]
Perhaps in your own mind.
Dad, There's really no point in Discussing facts with you. Assuming you have chugged the trump kool aid (or knock off kool aid), even the most basic fact, a number, (in this case attendance numbers) is ignored. Trumps press secretary got up there and lied about the numbers, and when Chuck Todd called him out on it, Conway said that he was giving "alternative facts".
Holy Shi-!!!
Alternative facts. Look into his heart. All bullshi-, and the fact that you can't even admit that is "sad".
The point is YA, that you said facts were ignored when you hadn't posted any. Now you want to talk about attendance numbers claimed. You do real use that there are no official attendance numbers, right? The Parks Service does not issue any. The numbers floating out there are estimates from various groups, each with their own particular dog in the fight. Conway's point is quite simple: there is nothing wrong with the numbers/facts from the Trump administration that cannot also be ascribed to any others.
BTW, F'Chuck Todd and the rest of the media have worked very hard to avoid mentioning the threats of violence from leftist groups, and the actual blockading of entry points by leftist thugs and the possible effect of each on attendance. I don't suppose thuggish behavior bothers you.
We could also have a nice discussion of what effect on attendance numbers for so many of CJ's supporters to both live in DC and Baltimore...and not have jobs to worry about.
Kinda like lots of those in Detroit.
There is a point in discussing why would trump and his people make a big deal about it and base it on a lie.
Can the number be known to the person? Probably not. Can we look at other factors to say "one is bigger than the other"? Of course.
But why believe our lying eyes when the alternative facts are clear, when in trumps heart, it felt like his was bigger....
As for using other factors, sure you can do that. But first you would have to figure out why the media is intent on showing a picture of the crowd at Obama's inauguration at the moment of the swearing in, then showing a picture of the crowd at Trump's inauguration that is several hours before the swearing in.
For extra credit, see if you can find the stories from 2009 where the media was focused on comparing crowd size from other inaugurations within minutes of the ceremony.
quote:Originally posted by Jgreen
Still here, still amazed that when push comes to shove, and when confronted with facts, so many of you retreat to name calling.
Someone commented upon my "unwarranted" feelings of superiority.
It may come as a shock to you, but my feelings of superiority are completely warranted.
[8D][8D]
Perhaps in your own mind.
I'm still waiting for an answer, predictably not addressed but moved on to other items.
So there's evidently no point in discussing the earlier assertion regarding Russia and China and the parts of the speech that were "moronic and retarded". A quick segue off to other issues like crowd size, but of course that's a dodge for those who can't make their case. I think folks here are savvy enough to recognize the ruse. The longer it goes on the more evident it becomes.
"What difference does it make"
Twitter d. Dumb should tweet THAT.
According to Wikipedia:
"Poisoning the well (or attempting to poison the well) is a fallacy where irrelevant adverse information about a target is preemptively presented to an audience, with the intention of discrediting or ridiculing everything that the target person is about to say."
Accusing Trump of being like Hitler caused too much backlash for the violent leftists, so they switched to the term "anti-semitic", which they thought would play better with low educations supporters. They have no shame.
Neal
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
Happy to discuss it. Moronic and retarded, because isolationism is a failed policy that never works.
All that it does is embolden the bad guys, until the bad guys are a real threat to us.
He was clear that the US isn't going to intervene into international matters. He just told China and Russia that they have carte blanche to do what they want. He just told the rest of the world that if they want help, knock on someone else's door.
Guess what? They will knock on someone else's door. And that won't be good for us.
He just got up there and told the world about "American Carnage", which by the way is complete bullshi-, and told the world how awful America is. Propaganda for the rest of the world.
He's just told the world that America is a wounded animal.
I'm not going to sit there and say that everything is terrific here, but it's not like "Escape from New York".
You know, the inauguration is supposed to be a joyous occasion, to celebrate our democracy, celebrate America, etc. He just got up there and said we suck.
We don't suck, and it's offensive for him to get up there and dog us to the rest of the world.
Does anyone really, really think that we as a nation ever did anything that wasn't "America First"? It may be hard to see, and it may not have worked, but I don't think that we have ever acted in anything but our own self interests. When we intervene somewhere on earth, we expect something in return.
So, there's my 2 cents.
and you must not live near a major city, or hide from the facts
the rest of the world already knows our inner city problems, they actually watch the news and keep up on it
Is it really that much of a stretch to know he meant we as in we the people?
Seriously, Harry is that you?
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck