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All mentioned are great ones, but I always admired Forrest's ability to be brilliant with no formal military training. Private to LT General is incredible.
To keep it even, I'll throw in Admiral David Farragut. Joined at 13 years of age and became the first full admiral (4 stars) in the USN.
quote:Originally posted by utvols
All mentioned are great ones, but I always admired Forrest's ability to be brilliant with no formal military training. Private to LT General is incredible.
To keep it even, I'll throw in Admiral David Farragut. Joined at 13 years of age and became the first full admiral (4 stars) in the USN.
Farragut was a fascinating individual.
Lashed himself to the rigging of the Hartford exposed to enemy fire while running the gauntlet in Mobile Bay. 'Damn the torpedoes, 4 bells..'
Without a doubt the boy had a pair.
Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.
quote:Originally posted by iceracerx
quote:Originally posted by arraflipper
One must not forget James Doolittle who not only struck the first blow to the Japanese main land. He was the first off the aircraft carrier, so had the shortest runway, to become air born. He also was a test pilot pushing many planes to the limit and on many occasions past their limit. He was the first pilot to take off, fly around and land in a plane without being able to see outside the plane canopy.. Fully on instruments that he designed many of, or adapted to make the flight. He was a leader, he never asked his men to do anything that he wouldn't do. His method of leading was from being out in front showing the way and that it could be done!
Doolittle held the rank of Colonel at the time of the raid.
Actually, he was a Lieutenant Colonel when he led the raid.
quote:Originally posted by drl50
quote:Originally posted by iceracerx
quote:Originally posted by arraflipper
One must not forget James Doolittle who not only struck the first blow to the Japanese main land. He was the first off the aircraft carrier, so had the shortest runway, to become air born. He also was a test pilot pushing many planes to the limit and on many occasions past their limit. He was the first pilot to take off, fly around and land in a plane without being able to see outside the plane canopy.. Fully on instruments that he designed many of, or adapted to make the flight. He was a leader, he never asked his men to do anything that he wouldn't do. His method of leading was from being out in front showing the way and that it could be done!
Doolittle held the rank of Colonel at the time of the raid.
Actually, he was a Lieutenant Colonel when he led the raid.
He was also short.
Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.
quote:Originally posted by Wulfmann
Lee and Jackson were not traitors, that is flat out wrong.
The were patriots. Remember our nation is the "Untied States" and these men defended their state
The warriors tasked with fighting and dying do not deserve any scorn.
The politicians divided this nation in half and waged war against each part sending other men to die while they stayed back and watched.
Well said Wulfmann. I agree.
Most of the CSA Generals were prior West Point graduates and Officers in the United States Army, prior to their resigning commissions and per their convictions, deciding to fight and lead for the CSA.
That War was not fought for Slavery, but for States Rights.
The CSA's position was more Pro-Constitutional than Abraham Lincolns, and his Union Army.
General Lee was quite the Leader and revered by his men. He did the Best He could, under exceedingly difficult and one sided conditions against the CSA.
Being a Marine I'm supposed to go for Chesty.. He did good in Korea. But WWII he used up a lot of men.
Now one I did meet and like was Gen Marion Eugene Carl. He was an ACE in WWII and was sent to be a instructor at flight school before Pappy ever got into it.
Something he said to me was take care of your Marine cause they are who take care of you. He was saying to make sure to recognize what they do for you and reward them for that.
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To keep it even, I'll throw in Admiral David Farragut. Joined at 13 years of age and became the first full admiral (4 stars) in the USN.
All mentioned are great ones, but I always admired Forrest's ability to be brilliant with no formal military training. Private to LT General is incredible.
To keep it even, I'll throw in Admiral David Farragut. Joined at 13 years of age and became the first full admiral (4 stars) in the USN.
Farragut was a fascinating individual.
Lashed himself to the rigging of the Hartford exposed to enemy fire while running the gauntlet in Mobile Bay. 'Damn the torpedoes, 4 bells..'
Without a doubt the boy had a pair.
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by arraflipper
One must not forget James Doolittle who not only struck the first blow to the Japanese main land. He was the first off the aircraft carrier, so had the shortest runway, to become air born. He also was a test pilot pushing many planes to the limit and on many occasions past their limit. He was the first pilot to take off, fly around and land in a plane without being able to see outside the plane canopy.. Fully on instruments that he designed many of, or adapted to make the flight. He was a leader, he never asked his men to do anything that he wouldn't do. His method of leading was from being out in front showing the way and that it could be done!
Doolittle held the rank of Colonel at the time of the raid.
Actually, he was a Lieutenant Colonel when he led the raid.
quote:Originally posted by iceracerx
quote:Originally posted by arraflipper
One must not forget James Doolittle who not only struck the first blow to the Japanese main land. He was the first off the aircraft carrier, so had the shortest runway, to become air born. He also was a test pilot pushing many planes to the limit and on many occasions past their limit. He was the first pilot to take off, fly around and land in a plane without being able to see outside the plane canopy.. Fully on instruments that he designed many of, or adapted to make the flight. He was a leader, he never asked his men to do anything that he wouldn't do. His method of leading was from being out in front showing the way and that it could be done!
Doolittle held the rank of Colonel at the time of the raid.
Actually, he was a Lieutenant Colonel when he led the raid.
He was also short.
Brad Steele
The were patriots. Remember our nation is the "Untied States" and these men defended their state
The warriors tasked with fighting and dying do not deserve any scorn.
The politicians divided this nation in half and waged war against each part sending other men to die while they stayed back and watched.
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
Lee and Jackson were not traitors, that is flat out wrong.
The were patriots. Remember our nation is the "Untied States" and these men defended their state
The warriors tasked with fighting and dying do not deserve any scorn.
The politicians divided this nation in half and waged war against each part sending other men to die while they stayed back and watched.
Well said Wulfmann. I agree.
Most of the CSA Generals were prior West Point graduates and Officers in the United States Army, prior to their resigning commissions and per their convictions, deciding to fight and lead for the CSA.
That War was not fought for Slavery, but for States Rights.
The CSA's position was more Pro-Constitutional than Abraham Lincolns, and his Union Army.
General Lee was quite the Leader and revered by his men. He did the Best He could, under exceedingly difficult and one sided conditions against the CSA.
Now one I did meet and like was Gen Marion Eugene Carl. He was an ACE in WWII and was sent to be a instructor at flight school before Pappy ever got into it.
Something he said to me was take care of your Marine cause they are who take care of you. He was saying to make sure to recognize what they do for you and reward them for that.