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Well, I already heard back from one of my senators!
Here is the response:
quote:Dear Mr. ______:
Thank you for writing to me regarding limitations on gun ownership. It is good to hear from you.
Like you, I am concerned about the level of violence in this country, and its effect on our families and communities. As a U.S. Senator, I have supported common-sense measures to reduce or restrict gun violence while posing the least possible inconvenience to law-abiding gun owners.
Please know that if the Senate considers firearms legislation, I will keep your concerns regarding this important issue in mind. If you would like to know more about my work in the Senate, please feel free to sign up for my weekly updates at ____________________. Again, thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with me. [V]
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by Rosie
Then how come you went through training to become a cop?
Are you living self-sufficiently, or are you actually institutionalized, or in assisted-care?
You really ought to read what you type before hitting the 'post new reply' tab, you'd look far less foolish.[:)]
Rarely have I interacted with someone who seems as clueless as you, or who comes across as so pathetically and unintentionally clownish.
Sad, really.
Now dang it LT, you used more than three letter words and grunts!
Could someone ship a dictionary to a forum member? [:o)]
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by Rosie
Then how come you went through training to become a cop?
Are you living self-sufficiently, or are you actually institutionalized, or in assisted-care?
You really ought to read what you type before hitting the 'post new reply' tab, you'd look far less foolish.[:)]
Rarely have I interacted with someone who seems as clueless as you, or who comes across as so pathetically and unintentionally clownish.
Sad, really.
Senility has a way of making the poor victim believe what they are saying has merit in a logical sense. He's really old. And since he didn't have a clue when he was young, more years just made it hopeless.[^]
Give him credit, for being able to figure out this internet/computer thing.[:D]
quote:Originally posted by Classic095
Again to you JP. My questions are WHAT IFS.. We have freakin laws now that inhibit the legal gun owners, we either live with them and abide by them or break the law, or some of us actually get envolved with our state government and try and have succeeded in getting these laws repealed or at least changed in our favor..
I can scream and holler all I want in here about the evils of government restrictions, but unless I actually get off my *, quit complaining and actually attempt to do something, all the rhetoric in the world isnt going to change a damn thing..Some people just dont get the concept that it is not only a group agenda, it should be a personal agenda.. That is why Tallahassee Florida and I are related..
Too many set back, complain, and do nothing else and expect the other guy to do it..[:(]
You said you have "no problem" with training requirements. I merely pointed out that I do and why. If I misunderstood what you meant when you said that, I apologize. If you truly have "no problem" with them, you are in opposition to amendment 2. Which is it?
quote:Originally posted by LesWVa
Maybe someday SC will catch up with WV and allow people 18 or older to just strap their hog leg to their side and go about your business.
If you want to "conceal" your .44 mag in your car. Then just pay $8.00 for a Class A-1 stamp.
Doesn't look like SC needs to catch up. You're state is the one sucking hind T
quote:Originally posted by okkim
quote:Originally posted by KEVD18
i really hope this trend catches on. i dont see constitutional carry ever being a nationwide thing, just as i dont see national concealed carry(with or without a permit) happening; but if we can at least get a majority it will make things much better.
i hope to be looking for a new state of residence within the next few years and you'd better believe that the state carry laws are going to be very high on my list of considerations.
+1, we all know left coast or NE will never allow this, but lets hope at least here is SE [:D]
dont lump all of new england into one pile. vermont has some of the best gun laws in the country. maine wont be far behind more common sense legislation as the fervor grows. new hampshire is already awesome as far as gun laws and will probably be among the states to pass a constitutional carry bill.
mass, never. new york, never. illinois, maryland, dc, california etc. these are the places where such a bill wont stand a snowballs chance in hell, but if we can at least attain a simple majjority in the country, it will be a huge win for us. then people can simply vote with their uhauls. if enough do so, then the holdout can either choose to change their laws or sacrifice a portion of their tax base.
quote:Originally posted by MOONED
You know what's stupid.....South Carolina does not reciprocate concealed carry for other states.....What the???
When I travel from Florida and have to pass through S.C. I have to double think myself when I get out of the truck because I'm carrying.
Oh well!
That's not true.
SC in fact **DOES** recognize the Florida State carry permit, and if you have one, you are legally permitted to carry in SC, so long as you obey the other SC state gun laws.
Here is the full list of SC reciprocal states from the Horses mouth:
quote:Originally posted by wpage
Agreed. Good for South Carolina. Crime stats will fall dramatically when the thugs realize decent folks can fight back.
Doubt it will change ANYTHING.
First of all, its relatively easy to get a CWP in SC, and lots of people do have them. Anyone so inclined to carry a gun can get one. You need to pay a small fee, get fingerprinted, and undergo a few hours training. Basically you spend one afternoon on it, at a cost of generally under $100.
Second of all, even WITHOUT a CWP many individuals legally keep guns in their cars and homes.
WEST VIRGINA IS AN OPEN CARRY STATE. I CAN CARRY A PISTOL ANYWHERE I WISH TO GO THAT DOES NOT RESTRICT THEM. WE DO NOT NEED A CCW AS LONG AS THE FIREARM CAN BE SEEN BY THE PUBLIC WHILE IT IS ON MY PERSON OR IN MY CAR.
IF I CHOOSE TO HIDE MY WEAPON UNDER A PIECE OF CLOTHING OR IN MY CAR THEN I NEED TO EITHER #1 BUY A Class A-1 stamp OR #2 GET A CCW.
quote:Once again you Obama supporting jock strap..Now that, right there, is about the funniest line i've seen in a long time, taken in context.[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
WEST VIRGINA IS AN OPEN CARRY STATE. I CAN CARRY A PISTOL ANYWHERE I WISH TO GO THAT DOES NOT RESTRICT THEM. WE DO NOT NEED A CCW AS LONG AS THE FIREARM CAN BE SEEN BY THE PUBLIC WHILE IT IS ON MY PERSON OR IN MY CAR.
IF I CHOOSE TO HIDE MY WEAPON UNDER A PIECE OF CLOTHING OR IN MY CAR THEN I NEED TO EITHER #1 BUY A Class A-1 stamp OR #2 GET A CCW.
If the above in red is true, please post a link supporting it. A class A-1 stamp is a pistol hunting permit. I've been a resident of WV for the past 31 years and have never seen anything stating that I can carry a pistol concealed or in my vehicle concealed while having a class A-1 stamp. You may want to check out page 5 of this link: http://www.wvdnr.gov/hunting/Regs1011/2010_Hunting_Regs.pdf
quote:Originally posted by beantownshootah
quote:Originally posted by MOONED
You know what's stupid.....South Carolina does not reciprocate concealed carry for other states.....What the???
When I travel from Florida and have to pass through S.C. I have to double think myself when I get out of the truck because I'm carrying.
Oh well!
That's not true.
SC in fact **DOES** recognize the Florida State carry permit, and if you have one, you are legally permitted to carry in SC, so long as you obey the other SC state gun laws.
Here is the full list of SC reciprocal states from the Horses mouth:
beantownshootah, you're right that South Carolina does reciprocate with some states but it's understandable how MOONED might have thought otherwise.
For many years Virginia accepted South Carolina's Concealed Weapon Permit (CWP) while South Carolina did not accept Virginia's Concealed Handgun Permit (CHP).
Each year we got a firm promise they would fix it next year. I think they finally got around to it two or three years ago. I guess some people finally quit checking on it.
it's irrisponsible to let someone carry a weapon that could end someones life unless we train them first.
Hmmm that might be the stupidest thing I ever heard.
I think they should have kitchen knife training or drunk driving classes. maybe they should have bomb making classes (at least for visiting student Jihadists)
I sure am glad the criminals went to those classes, you know the ones where they teach you to hold the gun sideways...
I hope no one ever points a gun at me like that, I might laugh out loud get myself shot....at.
Columbia, SC (AP,WLTX) -- South Carolina citizens could carry a concealed weapon without a permit under legislation advanced by a House panel.
...
I hope it goes through.
Training is a good idea, but I'd make it an incentive not a requirement. Talk up some manufacturers and major sporting goods and gun dealers to offer some discount on guns and ammo for showing proof of a training class.
Here in Arizona the CCW is of course not required, but we can carry concealed into a few more places if we have it. Some dealers discount to CCW holders, having a CCW speeds up buying a gun just a bit, little things like that.
quote:Originally posted by Rosie
496 you are one of three of the biggest jokes this forum ever had. You are so pathetic I feel sorry for you.
Thanks, Rosie. The comment is to be cherished because it was you who made it.[:)]
I like the idea of training but not as a requirement. I do think it would be nice if the people were given incentives to get it. I have been thinking of getting some advanced training this coming summer I just have to figure out what I want to do and how much it is going to cost. I would love to go to Gunsight since it is just up the road but unless somebody else is going to pay for it I am out of luck.
I have my ccw and will be renewing it this year as it makes travel out of state easier. Here in AZ having a ccw also allows you to skip the phone call when purchasing a gun (which is nice).
In theory I am not in favor of ccw's. I think we should be able to carry where ever but for now since it is the way things work, and they make things a little smoother, I will just go with the flow.
I'm all for training it can help you be more accurate and effective with your weapon, and help you avoid lawsuits.
I think training should be mandatory, everyone should be required to serve 2 years in their state's national guard where they will be trained. Requiring any other form of training is not constitutionally sound.
Comments
Here is the response:
quote:Dear Mr. ______:
Thank you for writing to me regarding limitations on gun ownership. It is good to hear from you.
Like you, I am concerned about the level of violence in this country, and its effect on our families and communities. As a U.S. Senator, I have supported common-sense measures to reduce or restrict gun violence while posing the least possible inconvenience to law-abiding gun owners.
Please know that if the Senate considers firearms legislation, I will keep your concerns regarding this important issue in mind. If you would like to know more about my work in the Senate, please feel free to sign up for my weekly updates at ____________________. Again, thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with me. [V]
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by Rosie
Then how come you went through training to become a cop?
Are you living self-sufficiently, or are you actually institutionalized, or in assisted-care?
You really ought to read what you type before hitting the 'post new reply' tab, you'd look far less foolish.[:)]
Rarely have I interacted with someone who seems as clueless as you, or who comes across as so pathetically and unintentionally clownish.
Sad, really.
Now dang it LT, you used more than three letter words and grunts!
Could someone ship a dictionary to a forum member? [:o)]
quote:Originally posted by Rosie
Then how come you went through training to become a cop?
Are you living self-sufficiently, or are you actually institutionalized, or in assisted-care?
You really ought to read what you type before hitting the 'post new reply' tab, you'd look far less foolish.[:)]
Rarely have I interacted with someone who seems as clueless as you, or who comes across as so pathetically and unintentionally clownish.
Sad, really.
Senility has a way of making the poor victim believe what they are saying has merit in a logical sense. He's really old. And since he didn't have a clue when he was young, more years just made it hopeless.[^]
Give him credit, for being able to figure out this internet/computer thing.[:D]
Again to you JP. My questions are WHAT IFS.. We have freakin laws now that inhibit the legal gun owners, we either live with them and abide by them or break the law, or some of us actually get envolved with our state government and try and have succeeded in getting these laws repealed or at least changed in our favor..
I can scream and holler all I want in here about the evils of government restrictions, but unless I actually get off my *, quit complaining and actually attempt to do something, all the rhetoric in the world isnt going to change a damn thing..Some people just dont get the concept that it is not only a group agenda, it should be a personal agenda.. That is why Tallahassee Florida and I are related..
Too many set back, complain, and do nothing else and expect the other guy to do it..[:(]
You said you have "no problem" with training requirements. I merely pointed out that I do and why. If I misunderstood what you meant when you said that, I apologize. If you truly have "no problem" with them, you are in opposition to amendment 2. Which is it?
If you want to "conceal" your .44 mag in your car. Then just pay $8.00 for a Class A-1 stamp.
Maybe someday SC will catch up with WV and allow people 18 or older to just strap their hog leg to their side and go about your business.
If you want to "conceal" your .44 mag in your car. Then just pay $8.00 for a Class A-1 stamp.
Doesn't look like SC needs to catch up. You're state is the one sucking hind T
http://www.wvcdl.org/WVCCW.html
Doesn't look like SC needs to catch up. You're state is the one sucking hind T
http://www.wvcdl.org/WVCCW.html
Why do I need to check CCW laws for WV. When WV is AN OPEN CARRY STATE?
If you dug into it a little you would find that....
WV does not have any laws prohibiting a School kid from K-12 from carrying a weapon.
K-12 Carry Not Yet Determined
NOTE: The Federal Gun-Free School Zones Act Restricts Carry to Permit Holders
Only your Federal government restricts my kids from carrying a firearm to school.
Not the state.
quote:Originally posted by KEVD18
i really hope this trend catches on. i dont see constitutional carry ever being a nationwide thing, just as i dont see national concealed carry(with or without a permit) happening; but if we can at least get a majority it will make things much better.
i hope to be looking for a new state of residence within the next few years and you'd better believe that the state carry laws are going to be very high on my list of considerations.
+1, we all know left coast or NE will never allow this, but lets hope at least here is SE [:D]
dont lump all of new england into one pile. vermont has some of the best gun laws in the country. maine wont be far behind more common sense legislation as the fervor grows. new hampshire is already awesome as far as gun laws and will probably be among the states to pass a constitutional carry bill.
mass, never. new york, never. illinois, maryland, dc, california etc. these are the places where such a bill wont stand a snowballs chance in hell, but if we can at least attain a simple majjority in the country, it will be a huge win for us. then people can simply vote with their uhauls. if enough do so, then the holdout can either choose to change their laws or sacrifice a portion of their tax base.
You know what's stupid.....South Carolina does not reciprocate concealed carry for other states.....What the???
When I travel from Florida and have to pass through S.C. I have to double think myself when I get out of the truck because I'm carrying.
Oh well!
That's not true.
SC in fact **DOES** recognize the Florida State carry permit, and if you have one, you are legally permitted to carry in SC, so long as you obey the other SC state gun laws.
Here is the full list of SC reciprocal states from the Horses mouth:
http://www.sled.sc.gov/Reciprocity1.aspx?MenuID=CWP
Agreed. Good for South Carolina. Crime stats will fall dramatically when the thugs realize decent folks can fight back.
Doubt it will change ANYTHING.
First of all, its relatively easy to get a CWP in SC, and lots of people do have them. Anyone so inclined to carry a gun can get one. You need to pay a small fee, get fingerprinted, and undergo a few hours training. Basically you spend one afternoon on it, at a cost of generally under $100.
Second of all, even WITHOUT a CWP many individuals legally keep guns in their cars and homes.
So the deterrent is already there.
http://apps.carryconcealed.net/legal/westvirginia-ccw-state-laws.php
West Virginia's conceal carry law
http://apps.carryconcealed.net/legal/westvirginia-ccw-state-laws.php
Once again you Obama supporting jock strap..
WEST VIRGINA IS AN OPEN CARRY STATE. I CAN CARRY A PISTOL ANYWHERE I WISH TO GO THAT DOES NOT RESTRICT THEM. WE DO NOT NEED A CCW AS LONG AS THE FIREARM CAN BE SEEN BY THE PUBLIC WHILE IT IS ON MY PERSON OR IN MY CAR.
IF I CHOOSE TO HIDE MY WEAPON UNDER A PIECE OF CLOTHING OR IN MY CAR THEN I NEED TO EITHER #1 BUY A Class A-1 stamp OR #2 GET A CCW.
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
West Virginia's conceal carry law
http://apps.carryconcealed.net/legal/westvirginia-ccw-state-laws.php
Once again you Obama supporting jock strap..
WEST VIRGINA IS AN OPEN CARRY STATE. I CAN CARRY A PISTOL ANYWHERE I WISH TO GO THAT DOES NOT RESTRICT THEM. WE DO NOT NEED A CCW AS LONG AS THE FIREARM CAN BE SEEN BY THE PUBLIC WHILE IT IS ON MY PERSON OR IN MY CAR.
IF I CHOOSE TO HIDE MY WEAPON UNDER A PIECE OF CLOTHING OR IN MY CAR THEN I NEED TO EITHER #1 BUY A Class A-1 stamp OR #2 GET A CCW.
If the above in red is true, please post a link supporting it. A class A-1 stamp is a pistol hunting permit. I've been a resident of WV for the past 31 years and have never seen anything stating that I can carry a pistol concealed or in my vehicle concealed while having a class A-1 stamp. You may want to check out page 5 of this link: http://www.wvdnr.gov/hunting/Regs1011/2010_Hunting_Regs.pdf
quote:Originally posted by MOONED
You know what's stupid.....South Carolina does not reciprocate concealed carry for other states.....What the???
When I travel from Florida and have to pass through S.C. I have to double think myself when I get out of the truck because I'm carrying.
Oh well!
That's not true.
SC in fact **DOES** recognize the Florida State carry permit, and if you have one, you are legally permitted to carry in SC, so long as you obey the other SC state gun laws.
Here is the full list of SC reciprocal states from the Horses mouth:
http://www.sled.sc.gov/Reciprocity1.aspx?MenuID=CWP
beantownshootah, you're right that South Carolina does reciprocate with some states but it's understandable how MOONED might have thought otherwise.
For many years Virginia accepted South Carolina's Concealed Weapon Permit (CWP) while South Carolina did not accept Virginia's Concealed Handgun Permit (CHP).
Each year we got a firm promise they would fix it next year. I think they finally got around to it two or three years ago. I guess some people finally quit checking on it.
Hmmm that might be the stupidest thing I ever heard.
I think they should have kitchen knife training or drunk driving classes. maybe they should have bomb making classes (at least for visiting student Jihadists)
I sure am glad the criminals went to those classes, you know the ones where they teach you to hold the gun sideways...
I hope no one ever points a gun at me like that, I might laugh out loud get myself shot....at.
Columbia, SC (AP,WLTX) -- South Carolina citizens could carry a concealed weapon without a permit under legislation advanced by a House panel.
...
I hope it goes through.
Training is a good idea, but I'd make it an incentive not a requirement. Talk up some manufacturers and major sporting goods and gun dealers to offer some discount on guns and ammo for showing proof of a training class.
Here in Arizona the CCW is of course not required, but we can carry concealed into a few more places if we have it. Some dealers discount to CCW holders, having a CCW speeds up buying a gun just a bit, little things like that.
496 you are one of three of the biggest jokes this forum ever had. You are so pathetic I feel sorry for you.
Thanks, Rosie. The comment is to be cherished because it was you who made it.[:)]
I have my ccw and will be renewing it this year as it makes travel out of state easier. Here in AZ having a ccw also allows you to skip the phone call when purchasing a gun (which is nice).
In theory I am not in favor of ccw's. I think we should be able to carry where ever but for now since it is the way things work, and they make things a little smoother, I will just go with the flow.
I think training should be mandatory, everyone should be required to serve 2 years in their state's national guard where they will be trained. Requiring any other form of training is not constitutionally sound.