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All true. But, he countenanced, he aided and abetted in the rape of 10 year old boys. His lack of action caused several, if not dozens, of young boys to be raped by his own defensive line coach.
The coverup was done, over many years, to protect the reputation of Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program.
Paterno's actions were inexcusable.
Joe Paterno is scum and I bet he is playing checkers with Stalin and Pol Pot in Hell right now.
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
"He sent hundreds to the NFL"
"He built a library"
All true. But, he countenanced, he aided and abetted in the rape of 10 year old boys. His lack of action caused several, if not dozens, of young boys to be raped by his own defensive line coach.
The coverup was done, over many years, to protect the reputation of Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program.
Paterno's actions were inexcusable.
Joe Paterno is scum and I bet he is playing checkers with Stalin and Pol Pot in Hell right now.
Joe is not scum, you are.
He accomplished more in his life than your whole family tree.
I don't know if Paterno was complicit in the Sandusky thing or not, and frankly I don't care at this point.
What I do find odd is the reverence people have for sports figures. The guy was a football coach, he didn't discover a cure for cancer. Indeed his passing is sad, but no more sad than the passing of my neighbor last week, a nondescript man known by few outside his family.
I wish people in this country gave a lot less attention to the Tom Bradys, the Dennis Rodmans, and the Joe Paternos, and pay a lot more attention to those truly worthy of reverence. I wish Hero Cards could replace the popularity of Baseball Cards - a card with the photo of a Navy SEAL and all his combat stats, or a cop or fireman recognized for bravery.
quote:All true. But, he countenanced, he aided and abetted in the rape of 10 year old boys. His lack of action caused several, if not dozens, of young boys to be raped by his own defensive line coach.
The coverup was done, over many years, to protect the reputation of Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program.
Paterno's actions were inexcusable.
Joe Paterno is scum and I bet he is playing checkers with Stalin and Pol Pot in Hell right now.
Please post documented evidence to support your claim.
quote:Originally posted by JnRockwall
He took the info he was given up the ladder. Nothing more nothing less. How you see it form there, that's on you.
One of the big complaints about JoePa, years before any of this happened, was that he was "out of touch" with the operations of the program.....Many have even said he was the head coach in name only.
To be perfectly honest, I don't think he was capable of processing the information he was being given......I don't hold him at fault for what happened, but the fact that it did was more than enough reason to fire him.
quote:Originally posted by drl50
Almost 5 decades of deserved notoriety only to be dismissed 2 months before the end of his life. Penn State's ugly revelations in Joe's eleventh hour will haunt his legacy forever.
50 years of NOTORIETY???? What the heck has he done wrong for 50 years? To my knowledge, he's revered by the entire state of PA. He deserves credit for that...I believe only the last few months were "notoriety".
I think you need a good dictionary.
Notoriety: the state of being known for some unfavorable act or quality.
quote:Originally posted by JnRockwall
He took the info he was given up the ladder. Nothing more nothing less. How you see it form there, that's on you.
let the man rest.
So if I walk out into my livingroom right now and find a strange man in there wearing a ski-mask, I should just knock on the bathroom door where my wife is taking a shower and say "Hey hon, there's some guy in the livingroom, not sure what he wants. I'll be in the shop if you need anything."
Paterno did what he absolutely had to do, from a legal standpoint. From a moral standpoint he was obligated to follow up and make sure that Sandusky was immediately terminated. Had it been my son he was caught humping in the shower, I'd have done the terminating myself.
quote:Originally posted by Navybat
quote:Originally posted by drl50
Almost 5 decades of deserved notoriety only to be dismissed 2 months before the end of his life. Penn State's ugly revelations in Joe's eleventh hour will haunt his legacy forever.
50 years of NOTORIETY???? What the heck has he done wrong for 50 years? To my knowledge, he's revered by the entire state of PA. He deserves credit for that...I believe only the last few months were "notoriety".
I think you need a good dictionary.
Notoriety: the state of being known for some unfavorable act or quality.
Well I'll stand corrected on that. Your corrected definition was not my intent. Dictionary notes a secondary meaning of "having a degree of celebrity" which is what I intended. Your corrected definition makes sense, that he was notorious the last several months, since the scandal was uncovered. Perhaps it should be 10 years. The length of time he knew what was going on in his locker room.
quote:Originally posted by Wyatt Earp
quote:Originally posted by JnRockwall
He took the info he was given up the ladder. Nothing more nothing less. How you see it form there, that's on you.
let the man rest.
So if I walk out into my livingroom right now and find a strange man in there wearing a ski-mask, I should just knock on the bathroom door where my wife is taking a shower and say "Hey hon, there's some guy in the livingroom, not sure what he wants. I'll be in the shop if you need anything."
Paterno did what he absolutely had to do, from a legal standpoint. From a moral standpoint he was obligated to follow up and make sure that Sandusky was immediately terminated. Had it been my son he was caught humping in the shower, I'd have done the terminating myself.
How could he be terminated when he had already retired?
The school pretty much killed him, by firing him. He had told them he was retiring at the end of the season. They fired him to take the pressure off the higher up ones tha Joe had told what happened. They should be tried for murder, since they did as much to kill him as the cancer did. His will to live was gone.
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"He built a library"
All true. But, he countenanced, he aided and abetted in the rape of 10 year old boys. His lack of action caused several, if not dozens, of young boys to be raped by his own defensive line coach.
The coverup was done, over many years, to protect the reputation of Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program.
Paterno's actions were inexcusable.
Joe Paterno is scum and I bet he is playing checkers with Stalin and Pol Pot in Hell right now.
"He sent hundreds to the NFL"
"He built a library"
All true. But, he countenanced, he aided and abetted in the rape of 10 year old boys. His lack of action caused several, if not dozens, of young boys to be raped by his own defensive line coach.
The coverup was done, over many years, to protect the reputation of Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program.
Paterno's actions were inexcusable.
Joe Paterno is scum and I bet he is playing checkers with Stalin and Pol Pot in Hell right now.
Joe is not scum, you are.
He accomplished more in his life than your whole family tree.
He died an utterly broken man.
What I do find odd is the reverence people have for sports figures. The guy was a football coach, he didn't discover a cure for cancer. Indeed his passing is sad, but no more sad than the passing of my neighbor last week, a nondescript man known by few outside his family.
I wish people in this country gave a lot less attention to the Tom Bradys, the Dennis Rodmans, and the Joe Paternos, and pay a lot more attention to those truly worthy of reverence. I wish Hero Cards could replace the popularity of Baseball Cards - a card with the photo of a Navy SEAL and all his combat stats, or a cop or fireman recognized for bravery.
We really have screwy priorities in this country.
The coverup was done, over many years, to protect the reputation of Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program.
Paterno's actions were inexcusable.
Joe Paterno is scum and I bet he is playing checkers with Stalin and Pol Pot in Hell right now.
Please post documented evidence to support your claim.
He was neither charged nor tried nor convicted so nobody has the right to pass judgment on him.
I can judge whomever I want. Conviction in a court of law and in the court of public opinion are two different things.
However, I'm quite aware that my opinion and 2 bucks is worth a cup of coffee
let the man rest.
He took the info he was given up the ladder. Nothing more nothing less. How you see it form there, that's on you.
One of the big complaints about JoePa, years before any of this happened, was that he was "out of touch" with the operations of the program.....Many have even said he was the head coach in name only.
To be perfectly honest, I don't think he was capable of processing the information he was being given......I don't hold him at fault for what happened, but the fact that it did was more than enough reason to fire him.
Almost 5 decades of deserved notoriety only to be dismissed 2 months before the end of his life. Penn State's ugly revelations in Joe's eleventh hour will haunt his legacy forever.
50 years of NOTORIETY???? What the heck has he done wrong for 50 years? To my knowledge, he's revered by the entire state of PA. He deserves credit for that...I believe only the last few months were "notoriety".
I think you need a good dictionary.
Notoriety: the state of being known for some unfavorable act or quality.
He took the info he was given up the ladder. Nothing more nothing less. How you see it form there, that's on you.
let the man rest.
So if I walk out into my livingroom right now and find a strange man in there wearing a ski-mask, I should just knock on the bathroom door where my wife is taking a shower and say "Hey hon, there's some guy in the livingroom, not sure what he wants. I'll be in the shop if you need anything."
Paterno did what he absolutely had to do, from a legal standpoint. From a moral standpoint he was obligated to follow up and make sure that Sandusky was immediately terminated. Had it been my son he was caught humping in the shower, I'd have done the terminating myself.
quote:Originally posted by drl50
Almost 5 decades of deserved notoriety only to be dismissed 2 months before the end of his life. Penn State's ugly revelations in Joe's eleventh hour will haunt his legacy forever.
50 years of NOTORIETY???? What the heck has he done wrong for 50 years? To my knowledge, he's revered by the entire state of PA. He deserves credit for that...I believe only the last few months were "notoriety".
I think you need a good dictionary.
Notoriety: the state of being known for some unfavorable act or quality.
Well I'll stand corrected on that. Your corrected definition was not my intent. Dictionary notes a secondary meaning of "having a degree of celebrity" which is what I intended. Your corrected definition makes sense, that he was notorious the last several months, since the scandal was uncovered. Perhaps it should be 10 years. The length of time he knew what was going on in his locker room.
quote:Originally posted by JnRockwall
He took the info he was given up the ladder. Nothing more nothing less. How you see it form there, that's on you.
let the man rest.
So if I walk out into my livingroom right now and find a strange man in there wearing a ski-mask, I should just knock on the bathroom door where my wife is taking a shower and say "Hey hon, there's some guy in the livingroom, not sure what he wants. I'll be in the shop if you need anything."
Paterno did what he absolutely had to do, from a legal standpoint. From a moral standpoint he was obligated to follow up and make sure that Sandusky was immediately terminated. Had it been my son he was caught humping in the shower, I'd have done the terminating myself.
How could he be terminated when he had already retired?
Bingo.