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Iranian Navy sending warships to US waters
scottm21166
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apparently all 6 of them are coming....
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no reason to go into "sky is falling" mode...
quote:establish a powerful presence near the marine borders of the United States,
Doesn't that mean they are staying in International waters???
I expect if the Iranians did show, they would be met with quite a show of force.... plus a lot of Texans standing on the shore line shooting at them!
You can bet that the US Navy has instructions to eat $#!+ short of a direct attack by one of the Iranian vessels.
Hopefully, a few US Navy pilots will break the sound barrier over these Iranian vessels.....several times.
Many 'the Bible says' passages too.
Many quotes of Christian passages.
Neat.
But, after about page seven? (Not sure)..I left with the feeling that the website was straining towards a sunday church meeting.
That Christian discipline has governed the founding of the Constitution is something personal..for the individual. And the Founders knew the pitfalls of intersposing one with the other..to the point that they put pen to paper carefully, very carefully, indeed.
Will I fault the writing of great thinkers, great ground-breakers, as were the colonial leaders of late eighteenth century?
No. But I have to read, and read again in order to further enrich my understanding. I have always had the need to ask myself 'why'??
Take blind faith on no stand. Always question..that's my philosophy.
Joe
Who's next? The mighty Sudanese Air Force? Or maybe the unstoppable Somali Marine Corps will storm our beaches...
Sheesh... we were afraid of the Soviets once. Now we're afraid of anything that moves. How sad is that?
Iranian Navy........[:D]
My initial thoughts as well.
I didn't know they had boats.
reckon the US would let some of us southern boys have a little fun with them?
Fun? As in the fun the locals had with Ned Beatty in Deliverance?
We citizens might ask ourselves, "In the whole USA there are not suitable candidates to run for POTUS?" And the answer is that, yes there are. There are business leaders scattered all over our country who would be much more suited to be President than obama, Bush, Clinton, Carter, or any of the rest of that bunch. But men or women who are persons of that character; of high business ethics and good morals, and not out to enrichen their political party and make a quick buck off the public are not interested in the schrewd, underhanded, and deceitful behavior that it takes for that job. Nobody in Washington, actually nobody in the main world would work with--one honest man. Do we think that the United Nations, other treaty orgs, all of the other countries we support, and the countless village chiefs that we give garbage bags full of money to when Clinton "visits" them, are willing to go on a diet?
More and more something new has begun to happen now. And that is, when there's a major sporting event or concert/celebration etc, there's also a "terrorist alert" associated with it. Every cop and city official goes on overtime, news agencies no longer accept a news feed from a local reporter but instead fly their folks in for the first hand look. Now rent-a-cops are allowed to frisk us if we want to go to see the big game. Look for this to happen starting with our next elections. How much will politicians do to make sure that things go their way? And if things are not going their way will elections have to be disrupted "for our safety?"
Let the Iranians attempt to go where they want. Of course, my guess is several of their vessels will suffer damage in the open ocean, refueling will be problematic, and simple navigation will provide some interesting times for their Captains and navigators.
THEN if they do make it over here, then what? They'll be low on stores, low on fuel, and 12 miles off shore (assuming they enter our territorial seas) and STILL won't be able to threaten us more than a rogue sailing regatta.
My guess is they'll run over a local fishing boat or some guys in a kayak, and there will be a big deal and our own Navy will run them off, listening to their anti-American propaganda over the loudspeakers.
Ahmadinejad will then go to the U.N. decrying American "aggression" against his peaceful flotilla and they won't ever try that again. End of story.
when they do get near our U.S. coastline there will be no support ships, as stated they will be low on stores and fuel, they might stay a week or two then head home, i do not see a real threat as they know damn well we can destroy their little navy in a mater of seconds, they will be monitored from below, above and on the surface. what i would like to see is a bunch of rednecks go out in seaworthy boats and harass them, just for snits'n giggles.
Don't know how close they'll come to the Texas oil ports (if they show - which I doubt) but coming into Galveston on a cruise ship -- I always see the Coasties in their gun boats, and the Galveston Port Police in their armed Zodiacs running around the harbor.
I expect if the Iranians did show, they would be met with quite a show of force.... plus a lot of Texans standing on the shore line shooting at them!
LOL!
that made me think of the movie "1941" where the civilians are taking pot-shots at the Jap sub with a 40mm Bofors that the army left in their yard [:D]
"and sir, never under any circumstances slide a clip of ammunition into the feed rollers here"
Personally, I'm not even sure the Iranians have a blue water navy.
[8D]barto[8D]
Bob Marley bobsled team captian
They must be "suicide jockeys".
In 1941,wasn't there a country that thought they could sink our battle ships,kill our Sailors and Marines, and break up Kate Beckinsale from her two boyfriends?
It's starting to come back to me. That same country was going to invade Austrailia, and own the Pacific. But they forgot a few things...
the 1st Marine Division,"Chesty" Puller,Edson and his Marine Raiders,and an Italian Kid,by the name of John Basilone.
How did that brain fart workout?
Don't forget the "Marine Corps Taxi Service", also known as the U.S. Navy!!! [:D]
They'll be in the Caribbean, no doubt, because only Venezuela would sell them fuel. And they'll have lots of (US Navy) company wherever they go. This is only intended to mess with out heads.
The PEOPLE of Iran are more educated, more middle class, and more pro-American than their Arab cousins. They have more Jews and Christians in their population than the Arab world. But here's the catch: they are under the thumb of ruthless, reactionary theocrats, and they are hamstrung by a whacko president who thinks he is bringing on the End Times and the Messiah ("12th Imam," in his case) by instigating war with Israel. Hopefully, this cruise isn't part of that plan.
quote:Don't forget the "Marine Corps Taxi Service", also known as the U.S. Navy!!!
Just be there when we wake up in the morning. When you all leave like that, you make us "feel so cheap".
But you all more than made up for it at Okinawa.[;)]
Earl, I gave several "boat rides" to Marines. We always came back to pick 'em up afterwards. Nobody had to walk home. [;)]
If they did pull liberty in a U. S. port it would be much like when the Saudis, French, Italians, etc. pull liberty in Norfolk. They would hit the bars, get snot slinging, commode hugging drunk, get laid and go back to the ship talking about how much America sucks.
apparently all 6 of them are coming....
http://resistance.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2600775:Topic:5554268&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic
C'MON MAN...I thought this was going to be one of those joke postings where they would be paddling a canoe, with buckets on their heads....a couple guns sticking out the side.
So, are they going to even have enough fuel to make one pass up/down our protected waters? If not, who is going to give/sell them fuel? Mexico? Venezuela?
I'm pretty certain this is taken out of context to try to show the US is going to be under attack. They don't have the logistics to pull it off.
A simple cruise past the great Persian fleet at very close range while the three triple 16" gun turrets take turns training on each ship would be an effective laxative to the crews.
You may recall there was a day in 480BC when the Iranians or Persians had the largest fleet in the world.
But they made the mistake of picking a fight with free men and their fleet was decimated at Salamis.
Perhaps a bill board on a barge with "Welcome to Salamis" will remind them the best way not to repeat history is to stay safely in port.
I am in the group that says let them come into our ports and show them a good time. Let them see what America is like for real all close up and personal.
Wulfmann
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
The only thing even remotly scary about it is if this flotilla is somehow equiped with medium range missiles that could reach the states and somehow there were meant to lead the way for a planned invasion. I know it won't work but I don't think these nut jobs care as long as they are able to inflict some damage and stir up more hostilities.
Chavez was taken to hospital emergency room.. please say a prayer. He has suffered greatly with cancer of late.
quote:But here's the catch: they are under the thumb of ruthless, reactionary theocrats, and they are hamstrung by a whacko president who thinks he is bringing on the End Times and the Messiah ("12th Imam," in his case) by instigating war with Israel. Hopefully, this cruise isn't part of that plan.
Bo, come on Obama is not that bad![:0]
Okay, Earl. "Wannabe" ruthless theocrats (high priests of secular humanism) and a "messianic" whacko president. That covers us, now what about the Iranians?
Iran is saying they want to park some ships off our coast. Iran has been developing weaponized Nuclear tech. Iran has vowed to attack/destroy the USA in the past, and I don't see Achmed Imanutjob changing his mind on that.
There has been a lot of talk/speculation about an EMP attack on the US of late. An EMP attack is basically a high-yield Nuclear Airburst somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 miles AGL, that would produce a pulse that would trash electronic equipment across the CONUS.
Now (Tightening the Aluminum Chapeau chin-strap...) could these Iranian warships be a launch platform for a nuclear-tipped missile that would be utilized to deliver an EMP attack on the US?
Our response time would be reduced to pretty much nothing with a launch 12 - 100 miles off our coast. We'd pretty much be restricted to pointing and saying "OOOHH, Pretty Colors" as we watch the missile travel the 1200 - 1500 miles (in a couple of minutes) to reach the perfect lat/long to deliver a nation-crippling EMP blast.
Yep - I know all this is just pure speculation and a fiction writing exercise... BUT - The nutjob that rules Iran (publicly) is truly a Nut Job! Plus the Religious leaders who ACTUALLY run that country are so dedicated to their Fanaticism, I think they would actually risk a Overwhelming US retaliation to hurt us. It fits in with their belief of the Coming of the 12th Imam, and the Islamization of the planet.
Let's see if one of the Iranian boats is a missile ship, or one capable of being a launch platform. To tell the truth, a 30-foot party barge could handle the job.
Chavez was taken to hospital emergency room.. please say a prayer. He has suffered greatly with cancer of late.
Perhaps prayer is the reason he is in the hospital so consider that a prayer answered.
I will prayer for Chavez' recovery like Jews prayed for Adolph when he had that AD mishap in the bunker.
Wulfmann
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
I believe they have the evil intent. I don't believe they have the capability to carry it out.
This should be a reminder of why Iran shouldn't have nuclear warheads.