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Damn, Ken; first you blow all your Vet money on guns, then your Buddy gets all wonky!
Just a suggestion from an ex-Animal Care Tech; try a small dose of mineral oil (FOOD GRADE) to see if he might get things moving "down there". I know it won't help damaged discs, but less pressure is still less pressure.
There are also several makers of "kidney belts" for canines, and my friend's wienerdog wears one on longer walks. He drags it around the house to let everyone know it's time to go "walkies".
Best to you'n'Buddy!
I'd listen to Woody and try a chiropractor. We used an animal one on the horse once with good results. What have you got to lose and then you know you would have tried all you could before you give up.
I hate putting down dogs, our vet was almost as upset as me on the last one. That's the sign of a caring vet, said whe. He quit caring so much it would be time to stop being a vet.
Just got notice that for some reason my e-mail was not allowed to go through to you. Don't know why it can't go through GunBroker but that is the only way I knew to reach you. Would like to discuss Buddy with you without hanging everything out here on public forum. Have been in practice now for 55 years and may have some options for you.
quote:Originally posted by Doc Feelgood
Just got notice that for some reason my e-mail was not allowed to go through to you. Don't know why it can't go through GunBroker but that is the only way I knew to reach you. Would like to discuss Buddy with you without hanging everything out here on public forum. Have been in practice now for 55 years and may have some options for you.
If the email got bounced back to you with a note saying your communication to "XXXXXXX @ YYYYYYY,COM" didn't work then cut and paste his address directly onto your Email address line and send that way. I have had to do that in the past while contacting various members here.
Hang in there Ken and give him some time. We lost our schnauzer to broken disc in her back. She was 16 and very healthy. Jumped off the bed and it was all over. Had to put her down three days later. I laid on the floor with her all three days, with our son, till the day came. She was in too much pain and I knew she couldn't take anymore. First time I cried in twenty five years. I would say that, as long as your buddy is eating, having movements, then she might be starting to heal. Who knows. I would at least try to get him to a real vet for dogs. Might be worth the drive. I know I would make the drive somewhere, no matter how far. We owe it to them, in my opinion. I will keep praying for you two.Oak
Prayers for you and Buddy!
As stated above, get the opinion of a REAL vet. One that understands this is a family member, not a beast of burden.
My daughter's "sausage dog" hurt herself jumping off the couch and lost the use of her hindquarters.
Daughter wouldn't give up on her.
After chiro and accupuncture, the lil' mutt is well on the road to recovery.
Extaordinary measures??
Maybe so, but she figured her friend was worth it.
I'm sure Buddy is too!
Good luck to you both.
Slept on the floor right below the couch with him on it. He wanted direct contact with me the whole time.
About 1am I went to go urinate. He slid off the couch and tried to follow me. (A few feet.)
When I came back, we both bedded down on the floor there. He wanted my arm on him.
He was kinda moving around, and kept licking my face & moved a foot or so several times toward the front door. It should have donned on me, but it didn't, that he needed to pee also. So he did.
It had been at least 24 hrs since he had. I was glad to see him pee. I cleaned it up, we bedded back down. His tail thumping lightly.
He has had a few sips of water ever few hours, and just now I gave him 1/2 can of moist turkey & gravy dog food, which he inhaled, not noticing the several pills hidden in it. He had had no interest in food before that. It was good to see him eat.
He seemed to perk up with the food. Tail thumping again. Sitting with him draped all over me on the couch right now. He has not has a bowel movement in at least 30 hrs or so, so I do not know what to expect there.
Our basset blew a disc and his back legs were paralyzed. Went to vet, took X-rays. It was bad. Vet suggested muscle relaxers, but didn't seem hopeful. We tried the muscle relaxers over a weekend, but Buster didn't get any better.
He wouldn't potty in the house; we had to carry him outside, or else he would just drag himself out.
Monday, Dawnie cooked him a ribeye steak. Buster said his goodbyes to all the family members, and we took him for his last vet visit.
It was a tough thing, but he was weary of his condition and ready to go on.
Ken, it's a terrible decision you have to make for Buddy. You, and only you, know what the best course of action for your best friend is. Having been down that road way too many times over the years, all I can offer is my support and deepest sympathy while you and Buddy travel this path.
Ken, you have my deepest condolences. I know it was a difficult decision. I have gone through the same agony with my own. Sometimes we are more concerned with our own feelings than with what's best for our friend. Joe
I'm very sorry it has come to this, but it sounds like you and buddy said your goodbyes in a very special way. Be careful on your trip to the Vet and take care.
If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!
quote:Originally posted by sxsnuf
Prayers for you and Buddy!
As stated above, get the opinion of a REAL vet. One that understands this is a family member, not a beast of burden.
My daughter's "sausage dog" hurt herself jumping off the couch and lost the use of her hindquarters.
Daughter wouldn't give up on her.
After chiro and accupuncture, the lil' mutt is well on the road to recovery.
Extaordinary measures??
Maybe so, but she figured her friend was worth it.
I'm sure Buddy is too!
Good luck to you both.
An 80 year old farm vet is a real vet. Just because he gave a diagnosis the recipient did not wish to hear does not make him uncaring.
At his age he is probably more caring because he is still practicing because of his love for the animals.
He was very ethical in the fact that he did not prescribe extraordinary measures just to pad his pocket at the expense of a patient who was under duress.
quote:Originally posted by swearengine
quote:Originally posted by sxsnuf
Prayers for you and Buddy!
As stated above, get the opinion of a REAL vet. One that understands this is a family member, not a beast of burden.
My daughter's "sausage dog" hurt herself jumping off the couch and lost the use of her hindquarters.
Daughter wouldn't give up on her.
After chiro and accupuncture, the lil' mutt is well on the road to recovery.
Extaordinary measures??
Maybe so, but she figured her friend was worth it.
I'm sure Buddy is too!
Good luck to you both.
An 80 year old farm vet is a real vet. Just because he gave a diagnosis the recipient did not wish to hear does not make him uncaring.
At his age he is probably more caring because he is still practicing because of his love for the animals.
He was very ethical in the fact that he did not prescribe extraordinary measures just to pad his pocket at the expense of a patient who was under duress.
I would agree.
He was very compassionate on my request this am, (first one in the door.) To euthanize my Bud.
I was very pleased with the overall experience, and his compassion for both me and my dog.
It was a very difficult thing to go through, but I know I did the right thing.
I was going to drive 35 mi away to have it done. I'm glad (now) I did not.
I shook his hand, and told him I realized this was not any easy thing for him to do, and I wanted him to know how much I appreciated it.
quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
quote:Originally posted by swearengine
quote:Originally posted by sxsnuf
Prayers for you and Buddy!
As stated above, get the opinion of a REAL vet. One that understands this is a family member, not a beast of burden.
My daughter's "sausage dog" hurt herself jumping off the couch and lost the use of her hindquarters.
Daughter wouldn't give up on her.
After chiro and accupuncture, the lil' mutt is well on the road to recovery.
Extaordinary measures??
Maybe so, but she figured her friend was worth it.
I'm sure Buddy is too!
Good luck to you both.
An 80 year old farm vet is a real vet. Just because he gave a diagnosis the recipient did not wish to hear does not make him uncaring.
At his age he is probably more caring because he is still practicing because of his love for the animals.
He was very ethical in the fact that he did not prescribe extraordinary measures just to pad his pocket at the expense of a patient who was under duress.
I would agree.
He was very compassionate on my request this am, (first one in the door.) To euthanize my Bud.
I was very pleased with the overall experience, and his compassion for both me and my dog.
It was a very difficult thing to go through, but I know I did the right thing.
I was going to drive 35 mi away to have it done. I'm glad (now) I did not.
I shook his hand, and told him I realized this was not any easy thing for him to do, and I wanted him to know how much I appreciated it.
My comments were based on your description of the 1st vet visit.
"Brusque", "uncaring", what you expected based on many reviews.
Sounds now like you were happy with your choice in the end.
Deepest condolences on your monumental loss.
RIP Buddy!
Originally posted by sxsnuf
My comments were based on your description of the 1st vet visit.
"Brusque", "uncaring", what you expected based on many reviews.
Sounds now like you were happy with your choice in the end.
Deepest condolences on your monumental loss.
RIP Buddy!
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I'm not upset with you Brother.
Those were indeed my words, and my initial impression. Maybe grief clouded my perception initially.
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Just a suggestion from an ex-Animal Care Tech; try a small dose of mineral oil (FOOD GRADE) to see if he might get things moving "down there". I know it won't help damaged discs, but less pressure is still less pressure.
There are also several makers of "kidney belts" for canines, and my friend's wienerdog wears one on longer walks. He drags it around the house to let everyone know it's time to go "walkies".
Best to you'n'Buddy!
I'd listen to Woody and try a chiropractor. We used an animal one on the horse once with good results. What have you got to lose and then you know you would have tried all you could before you give up.
I hate putting down dogs, our vet was almost as upset as me on the last one. That's the sign of a caring vet, said whe. He quit caring so much it would be time to stop being a vet.
Good luck
Just got notice that for some reason my e-mail was not allowed to go through to you. Don't know why it can't go through GunBroker but that is the only way I knew to reach you. Would like to discuss Buddy with you without hanging everything out here on public forum. Have been in practice now for 55 years and may have some options for you.
If the email got bounced back to you with a note saying your communication to "XXXXXXX @ YYYYYYY,COM" didn't work then cut and paste his address directly onto your Email address line and send that way. I have had to do that in the past while contacting various members here.
As stated above, get the opinion of a REAL vet. One that understands this is a family member, not a beast of burden.
My daughter's "sausage dog" hurt herself jumping off the couch and lost the use of her hindquarters.
Daughter wouldn't give up on her.
After chiro and accupuncture, the lil' mutt is well on the road to recovery.
Extaordinary measures??
Maybe so, but she figured her friend was worth it.
I'm sure Buddy is too!
Good luck to you both.
About 1am I went to go urinate. He slid off the couch and tried to follow me. (A few feet.)
When I came back, we both bedded down on the floor there. He wanted my arm on him.
He was kinda moving around, and kept licking my face & moved a foot or so several times toward the front door. It should have donned on me, but it didn't, that he needed to pee also. So he did.
It had been at least 24 hrs since he had. I was glad to see him pee. I cleaned it up, we bedded back down. His tail thumping lightly.
He has had a few sips of water ever few hours, and just now I gave him 1/2 can of moist turkey & gravy dog food, which he inhaled, not noticing the several pills hidden in it. He had had no interest in food before that. It was good to see him eat.
He seemed to perk up with the food. Tail thumping again. Sitting with him draped all over me on the couch right now. He has not has a bowel movement in at least 30 hrs or so, so I do not know what to expect there.
Again, thanks to all.
-Ken-
He wouldn't potty in the house; we had to carry him outside, or else he would just drag himself out.
Monday, Dawnie cooked him a ribeye steak. Buster said his goodbyes to all the family members, and we took him for his last vet visit.
It was a tough thing, but he was weary of his condition and ready to go on.
Jon
It's the right thing to do. I will not go into all the heartbreaking details.
Snowed 4 inches or so overnight was about 20*, ground will be frozen.I can't seem to catch a break.
I appreciate all your thoughts and prayers.
-Ken-
Best medicine is to get a puppy ASAP.
Really sorry for you !!!!
Not much in life is worse !!!!!!!
Good Luck !
Prayers done !
Thanks !!!
I Grew Old Too Fast (And Smart Too damn Slow !!!) !!!
If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!
We did indeed spend some extremely close quality time, over these last 4-5 days. It made me appreciate what an incredibly good dog, and friend I had.
I miss him already.
Will have to say my final goodbyes here shortly. I'm having a few beers in his honor, before going out.
He is curled up in the front seat of the Jeep. I'm trying to decide in my mind on the spot.
Prayers for you and Buddy!
As stated above, get the opinion of a REAL vet. One that understands this is a family member, not a beast of burden.
My daughter's "sausage dog" hurt herself jumping off the couch and lost the use of her hindquarters.
Daughter wouldn't give up on her.
After chiro and accupuncture, the lil' mutt is well on the road to recovery.
Extaordinary measures??
Maybe so, but she figured her friend was worth it.
I'm sure Buddy is too!
Good luck to you both.
An 80 year old farm vet is a real vet. Just because he gave a diagnosis the recipient did not wish to hear does not make him uncaring.
At his age he is probably more caring because he is still practicing because of his love for the animals.
He was very ethical in the fact that he did not prescribe extraordinary measures just to pad his pocket at the expense of a patient who was under duress.
quote:Originally posted by sxsnuf
Prayers for you and Buddy!
As stated above, get the opinion of a REAL vet. One that understands this is a family member, not a beast of burden.
My daughter's "sausage dog" hurt herself jumping off the couch and lost the use of her hindquarters.
Daughter wouldn't give up on her.
After chiro and accupuncture, the lil' mutt is well on the road to recovery.
Extaordinary measures??
Maybe so, but she figured her friend was worth it.
I'm sure Buddy is too!
Good luck to you both.
An 80 year old farm vet is a real vet. Just because he gave a diagnosis the recipient did not wish to hear does not make him uncaring.
At his age he is probably more caring because he is still practicing because of his love for the animals.
He was very ethical in the fact that he did not prescribe extraordinary measures just to pad his pocket at the expense of a patient who was under duress.
I would agree.
He was very compassionate on my request this am, (first one in the door.) To euthanize my Bud.
I was very pleased with the overall experience, and his compassion for both me and my dog.
It was a very difficult thing to go through, but I know I did the right thing.
I was going to drive 35 mi away to have it done. I'm glad (now) I did not.
I shook his hand, and told him I realized this was not any easy thing for him to do, and I wanted him to know how much I appreciated it.
I thank you for your comment.
-Ken-
quote:Originally posted by swearengine
quote:Originally posted by sxsnuf
Prayers for you and Buddy!
As stated above, get the opinion of a REAL vet. One that understands this is a family member, not a beast of burden.
My daughter's "sausage dog" hurt herself jumping off the couch and lost the use of her hindquarters.
Daughter wouldn't give up on her.
After chiro and accupuncture, the lil' mutt is well on the road to recovery.
Extaordinary measures??
Maybe so, but she figured her friend was worth it.
I'm sure Buddy is too!
Good luck to you both.
An 80 year old farm vet is a real vet. Just because he gave a diagnosis the recipient did not wish to hear does not make him uncaring.
At his age he is probably more caring because he is still practicing because of his love for the animals.
He was very ethical in the fact that he did not prescribe extraordinary measures just to pad his pocket at the expense of a patient who was under duress.
I would agree.
He was very compassionate on my request this am, (first one in the door.) To euthanize my Bud.
I was very pleased with the overall experience, and his compassion for both me and my dog.
It was a very difficult thing to go through, but I know I did the right thing.
I was going to drive 35 mi away to have it done. I'm glad (now) I did not.
I shook his hand, and told him I realized this was not any easy thing for him to do, and I wanted him to know how much I appreciated it.
I thank you for your comment.
-Ken-
You are welcome.
"Brusque", "uncaring", what you expected based on many reviews.
Sounds now like you were happy with your choice in the end.
Deepest condolences on your monumental loss.
RIP Buddy!