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2020 Census?

grdad45grdad45 Member Posts: 4,397 ✭✭✭
edited July 2019 in General Discussion
Just so it is perfectly clear, I will not answer any census questions at all if the citizenship question isn't asked. The government needs to learn what the term ILLEGAL really means!

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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 48,599 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well alrighty then. For the record, I don't much care either way. Nothing compels honest answers.
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 19,073 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2019
    Good for you!

    Just send it back with all unanswered questions..



    Me I just throw it in the trash.


    Then when the census guy comes around I sic my 2 Golden retrievers on him :lol:
    RLTW

  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 35,110 ******
    edited November -1
    I haven't received a census questionnaire in the past 30 years, so I don't figure I'll get a 2020 census packet.
  • Toolman286Toolman286 Member Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It must be Dumbocrat logic. They only want to know how many people are in a state so that state will have the right number of federal representatives. Since when do illegals qualify for representation. Heck, Pillosi is probably worried that she'll loose her job if they don't count illegals. If this were to affect the electoral college, Kalipornia would get less votes then Alaska.
  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 19,211 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Kind a pointless if they send them out for California.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 38,925
    edited November -1
    figure kalipornia would happily place an illegals question on their census to justify screaming for more tons of federal money (to build fences to keep them off of rich politicians and movie stars estates)....????
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 38,925
    edited November -1
    figure kalipornia would happily place an illegals question on their census to justify screaming for more tons of federal money (to build fences to keep them off of rich politicians and movie stars estates)....????
  • babunbabun Member Posts: 11,497
    edited November -1
    Never had a census taken in NY. In the last 28 years here in Tenn. had one about a year after I bought my first house. IIRC, only about 8 questions, none about citizenship. Just asked about # of people living in house, # of people working, range of ages.
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 19,073 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    nunn wrote:
    I haven't received a census questionnaire in the past 30 years, so I don't figure I'll get a 2020 census packet.

    Really........thats crazy

    I have received one every time there is a census, I even had a guy come to my house about 20 years ago and ask me census questions on my porch. It was in fayettville nc and I was between deployments, smoking a cigar and drinking beer. I offered the guy a beer but he said he wasn't allowed to drink on duty.
    RLTW

  • mag00mag00 Member Posts: 4,668
    edited November -1
    Just write across the form in large black marker:

    I'm a citizen!
  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member Posts: 7,864 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They can count me in on the next census! I'm pretty sure it can be and probably has been taken directly from this forum!

    Caught wearing my tin foil hat this afternoon.
  • gruntled2gruntled2 Member Posts: 471 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Count yourself lucky if you never had anyone come to your house. I worked the 2000 Census. My job was to spot check the people who had checked on the first people who had gone around.
    The first job was for the mapping so by the time I got there I was the third person who had been there. Then came the actual census so in a few rare instances I was the SIXTH person they had talked to. There was a third phase but I can't recall what it was as I was fed up with the waste of money by then & it didn't relate to the actual census.
    In some cases I was sent as far as Barstow or Palm Springs to check on less than five cases. I was paid mileage & driving time. I was worried I was racking up too much money but they told me just the opposite. They were worried that if they didn't use all the money they were allocated they would be cut the next time.
    It was interesting & I am giving some thought to doing it again next year. I am really hoping the laptop computer's program is MUCH better than what we had. We were allowed to use the telephone to contact people but the phone numbers we were given were almost always bad. With everyone having answering machines now that would probably be even worse. Hopefully they will ask for E-Mail addresses & be able to do it on-line but I doubt many people would be willing to answer census questions on-line. I also wonder if they will use GPS for the mapping phase? We were told to pace it off or use our car's odometer.
    I remember one time when I was ordered out of a trailer park by the owner. When I was leaving I saw a cop car & asked him to escort me back in which he did. In that case the map was really screwed up & that was why I had been taking so much time. There were also a few times when it became obvious the previous people hadn't really done anything & had faked their results. When we found that we had to redo everything they had done.

    If you fill out the form and return it you will save the Newnited States bundles of money.
  • mag00mag00 Member Posts: 4,668
    edited November -1
    To the best of my knowledge I am a Citizen of the United States of America. :D




    13 U.S. Code ??221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers
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    (a) Whoever, being over eighteen years of age, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any other authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorized officer, to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey provided for by subchapters I, II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title, applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related, or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant, shall be fined not more than $100.
    (b) Whoever, when answering questions described in subsection (a) of this section, and under the conditions or circumstances described in such subsection, willfully gives any answer that is false, shall be fined not more than $500.
    (c) Notwithstanding any other provision of this title, no person shall be compelled to disclose information relative to his religious beliefs or to membership in a religious body.
    (Aug. 31, 1954, ch. 1158, 68 Stat. 1023; Pub. L. 85?207, ??15, Aug. 28, 1957, 71 Stat. 484; Pub. L. 94?521, ??13, Oct. 17, 1976, 90 Stat. 2465.)
  • grdad45grdad45 Member Posts: 4,397 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    mag00 wrote:
    To the best of my knowledge I am a Citizen of the United States of America. :D




    13 U.S. Code ??221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a) Whoever, being over eighteen years of age, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any other authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorized officer, to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey provided for by subchapters I, II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title, applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related, or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant, shall be fined not more than $100.
    (b) Whoever, when answering questions described in subsection (a) of this section, and under the conditions or circumstances described in such subsection, willfully gives any answer that is false, shall be fined not more than $500.
    (c) Notwithstanding any other provision of this title, no person shall be compelled to disclose information relative to his religious beliefs or to membership in a religious body.
    (Aug. 31, 1954, ch. 1158, 68 Stat. 1023; Pub. L. 85?207, ??15, Aug. 28, 1957, 71 Stat. 484; Pub. L. 94?521, ??13, Oct. 17, 1976, 90 Stat. 2465.)

    About 1990, I got one of those multipage questionnaires in the mail. After reading it I decided they wanted WAY to much information that was really none of their business. I threw it away. A month or so later they sent me another one with the warning that I could be fined $100 for not filling it out. I sent it back with a note asking where to send the C-note. Never heard from them again. I'm not giving them false info, just none.
  • babunbabun Member Posts: 11,497
    edited November -1
    Gee..... look at all these middle class, white, conservative, gun lovers that refuse to answer some questions that may affect the voting balance in their area.

    No wonder the Libatrads want more illegals in this country, they will have the ONLY say in things soon.

    :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
  • mag00mag00 Member Posts: 4,668
    edited November -1
    babun wrote:
    Gee..... look at all these middle class, white, conservative, gun lovers that refuse to answer some questions that may affect the voting balance in their area.

    No wonder the Libatrads want more illegals in this country, they will have the ONLY say in things soon.

    :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

    Now you see the issue. I could lie on my form and say 20 people live in my house, because I live in a predominantly liberal area, that would just give the libs more representation.

    If they don't add the citizen question, I feel it my duty to let them know. And that is the ONLY question I will answer. The question then is to add a note explaining or not.

    If they figure the question will "disenfranchise" participation, that is exactly what NOT having the question does. It used to be on the census.

    The other thing people need to be aware of is going to be the phishing scams that will happen. Oh the robo calls, and you're going to jail, and you can pay by giving your ssn and all personal info.

    The census should probably be done away with in this day of surveillance. I'm sure google has an accurate count.

    Answering personal questions that are none of anybodies business, is an issue, when they won't even ask if you are a citizen.
  • gruntled2gruntled2 Member Posts: 471 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Actually the answers on the old census forms that have been released can be quite interesting when you try to track your ancestors. So far I have tracked some back as far as 1820. Imagine that in a couple of hundred years your descendants could be tracking you.
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 48,599 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    gruntled2 wrote:
    Actually the answers on the old census forms that have been released can be quite interesting when you try to track your ancestors. So far I have tracked some back as far as 1820. Imagine that in a couple of hundred years your descendants could be tracking you.


    Just add them to the posse.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,734 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm looking forward to this census with great enthusiasm. Background to statement: In the early 1990s, a dear friend of mine was involved with his family genealogy. His paternal line of descent had roots in Germany that led in part to the Mid-West and then to the Texas Panhandle not a long time after the Great War in America, and later to Oregon...many details of which I found highly interesting.

    One day I accompanied him to the regional branch of the National Archives in Anchorage where he familiarized me with the process of elementary research. In a relatively short time we were reviewing microfilm of the 1910 census when all of a sudden there was my father and his entire family. Dad was listed as a three year old boy.

    The sight of this one census enumeration led to one long and great adventure for me. I cannot thank my friend enough for what he has done for me. And, I cant wait to research a lot of people once the 1950 census is released. Who knows, maybe my son and grandson or another relative will be looking forward to finding me and my folks in Jefferson County, Texas, as a 7 year old boy come 2022. So, if you were born before census time in 1950...you can find out all about yourself and your family once the 1950 census hits the street.
    What's next?
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 17,683 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think the Government can ask if a person is a citizen or not, but I guess if we were doing our jobs and they were illegal that could be self incriminating.

    Regardless I have nothing to hide and as mentioned the census of years past has been instrumental for me in a ancestry research.
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Put me in the bucket of people who have never crossed paths with anyone from a census.
  • mjrfd99mjrfd99 Member Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    babun wrote:
    Gee..... look at all these middle class, white, conservative, gun lovers that refuse to answer some questions that may affect the voting balance in their area.

    No wonder the Libatrads want more illegals in this country, they will have the ONLY say in things soon.

    :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

    Yep. we all should lie in whitelandia too. Say 10 residents in your home and get more fed cash for your town.
    The demonrat shitholes do - thats why they want illegal filth counted also.
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One little factoid you need to know about the census is individual states get to add questions. That is where the more personal and private questions come from. IMHO, the federal part has never been intrusive.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,734 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    chiefr wrote:
    One little factoid you need to know about the census is individual states get to add questions. That is where the more personal and private questions come from. IMHO, the federal part has never been intrusive.
    ..
    What's next?
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