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Video shows how dangerous a man with a knife is

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    hillbillehillbille Member Posts: 14,183 ✭✭✭✭
    I thought it looked like he pulled trigger a couple times and round didn't go off, then he racked another in chamber............?
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    nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,880 ✭✭✭✭
    She is fortunate that she survived the encounter.  I would expect a thorough investigation of the incident.
    Neal
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    AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,054 ✭✭✭✭
    The rule used to be 21 feet. Has that changed? She let him get way to close, and I would toss the ammo and the pistol in the trash can and get something more reliable.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
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    GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 16,751 ✭✭✭✭
    Looks like Glock, think he actually hit it, might have got a finger in chamber? Whatever, she had the thought process down and cleared and fired quickly. Righteous shoot.
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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭

    She is lucky to be alive.

    She let him get WAY too close.

    Another example that people don't drop on the first shot.


    I bet the 70 something year old guy in the convenience store, wished he had kept his mouth shut.

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    kimikimi Member Posts: 44,723 ✭✭✭
    She did alright.  My first thought is that she is a bad shot and knows it, and should that be the case, she played it out perfect.  Since he's not black, the BLM racists and the BMSMedia won't touch it.  No news for Luis, or whatever, other than a quick blurb.
    What's next?
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    kimikimi Member Posts: 44,723 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2020

     


    I bet the 70 something year old guy in the convenience store, wished he had kept his mouth shut.

    Exactly!!!
    What's next?
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    Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,317 ******
    The focus is all wrong here. The guy that got stabbed for asking for someone to do the simplest of tasks is the real story, IMO.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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    kimikimi Member Posts: 44,723 ✭✭✭

    Both notes are newsworthy, Randy.

    What's next?
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    Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 24,577 ✭✭✭✭
    hear more all the time about fighting and shootings,  over people getting on some one else over a mask 
    sad it has come down to killing and hurting people over a mask . 
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    jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 25,668 ******
    I have avoided many a fight by minding my own business.
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    Butchdog2Butchdog2 Member Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭✭
    For what ever the reason, mask or no mask the man made the second bad decision, charging the police was a death sentence.
    First person all but took this man life by being overly concerned by no mask, the situation most likely would have past quickly.
    Third the police overreacted to the no mask complaint. My 2 cents.
    I was not there and there is usually 3 sides to the story.
    Another covid related death.
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    mohawk600mohawk600 Member Posts: 5,376 ✭✭✭✭
    that 21 foot closing rule is real folks.
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    diver-rigdiver-rig Member Posts: 6,342 ✭✭✭✭

    Third the police overreacted to the no mask complaint.


    The police were responding to a man being stabbed, not a mask complaint.

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    GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 16,751 ✭✭✭✭
    BIG difference.
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    allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,242 ✭✭✭✭
    I never wear a mask if I can get in the store without.  My county, Madison County NC has 14 cases of the Dempanic, and is the safest county in the state.
    I can't get in the liquor store without a mask so I wear one there.   I do get some dirty looks from some mask wearers in Lowes, and the grocery store.
    If one of them, male or female, gives me any crap I will have a very smart * retort for them. 

    This 77 year old guy bitching out this young man for not having a mask was pretty stupid.  Good Social Justice Warrior.

    This female cop did a good job, lots of good hits and cleared the jam in record time.
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    MrMag00MrMag00 Member Posts: 532 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2020
    Interesting that they are not wearing masks in the video. Guess the mask is not needed. One guy stabbed for not minding his own business, another shot defending our rights to not be controlled by the federallies. Maybe he should get an award? 

    Oh, wait, he was white so can't claim racism and get off scott free. 

    "She feared for her life", lol. Why didn't she shoot the knife out of his hand? Where was the social worker to talk him down? I couldn't even see a knife, it must be tiny. Then she shot him in cold blood while he was tying his shoe. 

    Where are the pictures of the perp at 12 years old at a chess club? 

    Sadly this is just the beginning of the pushback and deaths over people trying to force their will upon me and others. Again, I didn't see anybody wearing masks in the video. 
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    BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,483 ✭✭✭✭
    MrMag00 said:
    Interesting that they are not wearing masks in the video. Guess the mask is not needed. One guy stabbed for not minding his own business, another shot defending our rights to not be controlled by the federallies. Maybe he should get an award? 

    Oh, wait, he was white so can't claim racism and get off scott free. 
    Huh? Shot for defending our rights? How about shot for stabbing a senior citizen and then attacking a cop. Stupid ***hole deserved getting shot. Just because someone makes what you think is a stupid or offensive comment doesn't give you the right to attack with a deadly weapon. Then he brought a knife to a gun fight and was stupid enough to attack the cop.To bad someone in the store wasn't carrying and could have wasted the dip**** right after he attacked the person with a knife. I don't think he is worrying about getting off since we don't often prosecute dead people. Bob
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    montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 58,035 ******
    Why did the Officer have to ‘rack’ the slide on his/her pistol during the fight ??
    ..cause it's a glock,,,,
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    montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 58,035 ******
    edited July 2020
    bpost said:
    She shot that guy in the boiler room and he did not go down, the gun jamb was cleared in record time and she reengaged the bad guy.  I give her 5 stars and a bottle of expensive Bourbon.

    Agree, watched it frame by frame.  
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    76k2076k20 Member Posts: 643 ✭✭✭
    Why did the Officer have to ‘rack’ the slide on his/her pistol during the fight ??

    The video would be better without the reporter talking during the encounter.  Sounds like the officer fired several rounds before the gun jammed?  Maybe a limp wrist due to the situation, officer was backing away firing and may not have had a good grip on the gun?  No matter, officer cleared the malfunction and was able to stop the threat.   I would say that guy was high on something, behavior is very odd and did not go down when shot at point blank range.   Of course, stabbing another individual might be a clue that something was wrong with this guy. 
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    mohawk600mohawk600 Member Posts: 5,376 ✭✭✭✭
    Cant wait for the civil war.
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    allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,242 ✭✭✭✭
    MrMag00 said:
    Interesting that they are not wearing masks in the video. Guess the mask is not needed. One guy stabbed for not minding his own business, another shot defending our rights to not be controlled by the federallies. Maybe he should get an award? 

    Oh, wait, he was white so can't claim racism and get off scott free. 

    "She feared for her life", lol. Why didn't she shoot the knife out of his hand? Where was the social worker to talk him down? I couldn't even see a knife, it must be tiny. Then she shot him in cold blood while he was tying his shoe. 

    Where are the pictures of the perp at 12 years old at a chess club? 

    Sadly this is just the beginning of the pushback and deaths over people trying to force their will upon me and others. Again, I didn't see anybody wearing masks in the video. 
    You are kidding, right?    Because some grouch gives you a hard time over no mask, you stab him?
    You are kidding, right?
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    BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,483 ✭✭✭✭
    After seeing MaG00s editing of his post, upon reflection believe it to be poorly communicated satire or sarcasm. If that is the case, then we really need the green font back or at least utilize the emoji feature to convey the intent or meaning of the post. 

    If it wasn't sarcasm then NeoBlackdog nailed it. Bob
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    Ricci.WrightRicci.Wright Member Posts: 5,129 ✭✭✭✭
    Yea right blame it on the gun. If you haven't figured out by now that Glock is the most reliable handgun you can buy then that's your fault.
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    Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,317 ******
    Yea right blame it on the gun. If you haven't figured out by now that Glock is the most reliable handgun you can buy then that's your fault.

    Exactly.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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    Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,603 ✭✭✭✭
    That's the reason I carry a revolver. It rarely ever needs to be cleaned and it fires when you pull the trigger. 
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    Ricci.WrightRicci.Wright Member Posts: 5,129 ✭✭✭✭
    I carry both, a Glock and a revolver.
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    NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭
    BobJudy said:
    After seeing MaG00s editing of his post, upon reflection believe it to be poorly communicated satire or sarcasm. If that is the case, then we really need the green font back or at least utilize the emoji feature to convey the intent or meaning of the post. 

    If it wasn't sarcasm then NeoBlackdog nailed it. Bob
    <sarc on> <sarc off>
    That should make it pretty clear IF it was sarcasm and not just out and out ignorance. 

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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,489 ✭✭✭✭
    Sarcasm is best when you have to think about it.  Mr. Magoo's post is an accurate reflection of the attitude of many in this sad country today.

    Ladycop did a very good job.  She got off 2 or 3 rounds and then, as previously stated, looks like a bit of a limp wrist; understandable given what she was facing.  Where she shined however, was with the quick rap of the hand and quick cycle of the slide so she could put this miserable piece of crap out of our misery.

    As to the nanny state ninny who wanted someone who was a virtually at no risk to wear a mask?  It is none of his business.  If he is that afraid of the magical Covid, he should stay home and stop bothering normal healthy people, or at least be a man, shut the hell up, and recognize that freedom is not subject to his whims or fears.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,483 ✭✭✭✭
    Sarcasm is best when you have to think about it.  Mr. Magoo's post is an accurate reflection of the attitude of many in this sad country today.

    Ladycop did a very good job.  She got off 2 or 3 rounds and then, as previously stated, looks like a bit of a limp wrist; understandable given what she was facing.  Where she shined however, was with the quick rap of the hand and quick cycle of the slide so she could put this miserable piece of crap out of our misery.

    As to the nanny state ninny who wanted someone who was a virtually at no risk to wear a mask?  It is none of his business.  If he is that afraid of the magical Covid, he should stay home and stop bothering normal healthy people, or at least be a man, shut the hell up, and recognize that freedom is not subject to his whims or fears.
    My initial reaction/response to MaG00s post was before he had edited it and added the last three paragraphs. Based on some of his posts in the past I believed he was serious. After he edited and added the last three paragraphs I have him the benefit of the doubt and dubbed it sarcasm. I hope I am right.
    Yes I think the senior should have kept his opinion to himself but nothing he could have said warranted being stabbed. The dead perpetrator must have either been on drugs, mentally disturbed or both. Bad for the senior, bad for the officer, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for the knife wielding ***hole. Bob
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    MrMag00MrMag00 Member Posts: 532 ✭✭✭
    Well Bob, it depends if one decided to nitpick the written word, or take a deeper thought on it.   I wasn't there, so I cannot say who was right or wrong. Some may say bringing a knife to a gunfight is stupid, well, old man brought his sorry mouth to a knife fight. 

    It's rather interesting how on one side, the cops shooting the knife guy, most are OK with that. But knife guy defending himself  against and assailant without a knife is not OK. What the hell is with the double standard? There isn't even a law that says the guy has to wear a mask. Not an enforceable one anyway. Yet some old fart who wishes to run the world starts crap with a guy who he probably don't know and may have been having a bad day anyway.  I wasn't there. There are plenty of big old guys who can put a hurt on a smaller younger man. 

    It's rather easy to couch quarterback this, But where is the video of the initial argument that went  bad? If old guy took the first swing, well, he got what he deserved. If not, so be it. You can ask why he ran, or why he charged the cops, but that is all after the fact, the universe was set in motion, and we don't know all the facts. Drugs, mental problems, old girlfriend or just plain ole fear? I don't know. 

    However, the part about bringing in a councilor or shooting the knife out of his hand, yes, sarcasm. About shooting him while he is bending over, that is a sticky point for the lawyers. I say he got what he deserved, yet the cops didn't appear to be too well trained to me. She feared for here life my *. She just has to say that (politics) or she should be kicked from the force, or get some real training. 

    I personally don't "fear for my life" when I have superior fire power. Just effin ridiculous. Just politics. 

    Could be interesting. I seen a guy get stabbed over a quarter on the pool table. Didn't see or care how it started. Standing on principle is the American way. If you let the camel get his nose under the tent, you will have a camel in your tent.  If you let these bullies push you around, even if just a mask, you have opened the floodgates for more abuse. So yeah, if the old guy started it and got stabbed, he deserved it, just like the stabber meandering towards the cop who shot him. NO FRIGGIN DIFFERENCE. 

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    Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 39,383 ***** Forums Admin
    jimdeere said:
    I have avoided many a fight by minding my own business.
    BINGO!! The mask wearing liberal should have kept his pie hole shut.
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    bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭
    MrMag00 said:
    Well Bob, it depends if one decided to nitpick the written word, or take a deeper thought on it.   I wasn't there, so I cannot say who was right or wrong. Some may say bringing a knife to a gunfight is stupid, well, old man brought his sorry mouth to a knife fight. 

    It's rather interesting how on one side, the cops shooting the knife guy, most are OK with that. But knife guy defending himself  against and assailant without a knife is not OK. What the hell is with the double standard? There isn't even a law that says the guy has to wear a mask. Not an enforceable one anyway. Yet some old fart who wishes to run the world starts crap with a guy who he probably don't know and may have been having a bad day anyway.  I wasn't there. There are plenty of big old guys who can put a hurt on a smaller younger man. 

    It's rather easy to couch quarterback this, But where is the video of the initial argument that went  bad? If old guy took the first swing, well, he got what he deserved. If not, so be it. You can ask why he ran, or why he charged the cops, but that is all after the fact, the universe was set in motion, and we don't know all the facts. Drugs, mental problems, old girlfriend or just plain ole fear? I don't know. 

    However, the part about bringing in a councilor or shooting the knife out of his hand, yes, sarcasm. About shooting him while he is bending over, that is a sticky point for the lawyers. I say he got what he deserved, yet the cops didn't appear to be too well trained to me. She feared for here life my *. She just has to say that (politics) or she should be kicked from the force, or get some real training. 

    I personally don't "fear for my life" when I have superior fire power. Just effin ridiculous. Just politics. 

    Could be interesting. I seen a guy get stabbed over a quarter on the pool table. Didn't see or care how it started. Standing on principle is the American way. If you let the camel get his nose under the tent, you will have a camel in your tent.  If you let these bullies push you around, even if just a mask, you have opened the floodgates for more abuse. So yeah, if the old guy started it and got stabbed, he deserved it, just like the stabber meandering towards the cop who shot him. NO FRIGGIN DIFFERENCE. 


    My Lord man, you justify STABBING some old geezer because he told a young man that he should have a mask on?  Are you serious?  I don't care if the old man called him names, yelled about his lack of a mask, acted like a total azzhat and said the attackers mommy wears combat boots.  The guy pulled a knife and stabbed him over his butthurt feelings and you think that is an acceptable response?
    The cop did EVERYTHING right.  She was in mortal danger from a man that just stabbed a fellow human being over the use of a mask.  She asked him to drop the weapon, she PLEADED with him to drop the weapon.  What did he do, he advanced with malice, she stopped him.  The video also shows he NEVER stopped advancing with weapons in his hand, he looks to be staggering a bit, drugged up?  Drunk? 
    We all would have loved to see you take on a guy with a knife at 20 feet and not fear for your life and pull the trigger until the threat was stopped, on the ground with no weapons.  The video looked like as he was being shot he was still trying to stick her with a very large knife.  It also appears to show him dropping the knife then BENDING OVER to pick it back up before the bullet hits started to register in his stupid brain.
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    BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,483 ✭✭✭✭
    bpost said:
    MrMag00 said:
    Well Bob, it depends if one decided to nitpick the written word, or take a deeper thought on it.   I wasn't there, so I cannot say who was right or wrong. Some may say bringing a knife to a gunfight is stupid, well, old man brought his sorry mouth to a knife fight. 

    It's rather interesting how on one side, the cops shooting the knife guy, most are OK with that. But knife guy defending himself  against and assailant without a knife is not OK. What the hell is with the double standard? There isn't even a law that says the guy has to wear a mask. Not an enforceable one anyway. Yet some old fart who wishes to run the world starts crap with a guy who he probably don't know and may have been having a bad day anyway.  I wasn't there. There are plenty of big old guys who can put a hurt on a smaller younger man. 

    It's rather easy to couch quarterback this, But where is the video of the initial argument that went  bad? If old guy took the first swing, well, he got what he deserved. If not, so be it. You can ask why he ran, or why he charged the cops, but that is all after the fact, the universe was set in motion, and we don't know all the facts. Drugs, mental problems, old girlfriend or just plain ole fear? I don't know. 

    However, the part about bringing in a councilor or shooting the knife out of his hand, yes, sarcasm. About shooting him while he is bending over, that is a sticky point for the lawyers. I say he got what he deserved, yet the cops didn't appear to be too well trained to me. She feared for here life my *. She just has to say that (politics) or she should be kicked from the force, or get some real training. 

    I personally don't "fear for my life" when I have superior fire power. Just effin ridiculous. Just politics. 

    Could be interesting. I seen a guy get stabbed over a quarter on the pool table. Didn't see or care how it started. Standing on principle is the American way. If you let the camel get his nose under the tent, you will have a camel in your tent.  If you let these bullies push you around, even if just a mask, you have opened the floodgates for more abuse. So yeah, if the old guy started it and got stabbed, he deserved it, just like the stabber meandering towards the cop who shot him. NO FRIGGIN DIFFERENCE. 


    My Lord man, you justify STABBING some old geezer because he told a young man that he should have a mask on?  Are you serious?  I don't care if the old man called him names, yelled about his lack of a mask, acted like a total azzhat and said the attackers mommy wears combat boots.  The guy pulled a knife and stabbed him over his butthurt feelings and you think that is an acceptable response?
    The cop did EVERYTHING right.  She was in mortal danger from a man that just stabbed a fellow human being over the use of a mask.  She asked him to drop the weapon, she PLEADED with him to drop the weapon.  What did he do, he advanced with malice, she stopped him.  The video also shows he NEVER stopped advancing with weapons in his hand, he looks to be staggering a bit, drugged up?  Drunk? 
    We all would have loved to see you take on a guy with a knife at 20 feet and not fear for your life and pull the trigger until the threat was stopped, on the ground with no weapons.  The video looked like as he was being shot he was still trying to stick her with a very large knife.  It also appears to show him dropping the knife then BENDING OVER to pick it back up before the bullet hits started to register in his stupid brain.
    Thanks bpost. I have been biting my tongue since he posted that for fear of being banned for my reply. Your diplomacy skills dwarf mine. Bob
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    MrMag00MrMag00 Member Posts: 532 ✭✭✭
    I get it, you don't like knives for self defense. Turn in your man cards.



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    MrMag00MrMag00 Member Posts: 532 ✭✭✭
    Looking at it again, and reading some comments under the video, I now have to question the authenticity  or if it is a staged production. 

    No video of alleged confrontation of knifing, no blood from being shot, no muzzle flash, and the sheriff with his cautionary warning of wearing masks. Conveniently parks randomly on the street infront of a house camera.  And I have never seen a solo cop show up to a police call like this. 

    Now I have to play devils advocate on this. Demonizing a white guy, showing how dangerous we are, with a screwdriver and pig sticker, never really going for the kill. I guarantee if he wanted that cop, he most surely could have, so why not?  The plot thickens. 

    I assure you, this draconian mask infringement is only the start. And you say he got shot for knifing a guy in the store. Show me the proof. And at the end, the cop says it is about a mask, so yes, this production was about  wearing a mask, for your panic porn entertainment. 

    I'm sorry this just doesn't pass the test.  

    But yeah, when they come a knocking on your door to confiscate your firearms "for public safety", come cry to me how the mask saved you from the common cold. 


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