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I am going to say it. I hope he does not, but I know he will.
Trump's ego is going to put a (D) in the white house in 2024. If he runs, he will get the nomination. He will lose the election. He should not run, period.
Here is why; tens of millions of people from all walks of life have a hatred for Trump that approaches my hatred for Hillary. You could run a baby rapist against him and the TDS folks and every (D) would vote against him.
He did a lot of good, he exposed a lot that needs investigated but he should pass the baton to DeSanits and put his considerable support into making sure the next POTUS is a (R).
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Well not sure I agree with you Bruce, but will give you this if both DeSanits and Trump run against each other the Dems will win because their will be a split between the die hard MAGA's and the rest of the Repubs... one of them needs to completely back the other imho.
I think the backlash against any R will be the same, Trump, DeSantis, or Kari Lake or who knows who.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
I have to agree with bpost. Their unfounded hatred knows no bounds. I hope DeSantis gets the nod and appoints Ivanka and Don Jr. to cabinet posts.
Whoever they put in besides Trump will just be bought... same old dog and pony show..If Galvin Newsome runs..he will be the next president..he has been promised... voting doesn't matter..and you can't out vote Machines....
I think you are spot on about Newsome. Being a relative of Nancy Pelosi gives him that family political support, and his San Francisco politics will win him the blue state vote. Factor in also his nazi daddy Klaus Schwab throwing the weight of the WEF behind him is going to make him a pretty strong contender.
Looks whos generating the hatred: Mainly main stream media, DEMOCRATs and their sycophants. All this hatred for Trump is not as real as these hate merchants are trying to make you believe. Its BS bandwagon propaganda. Dont fall for it!
Because of Trump alone main stream media has lost a tremendous amount of credibility. Few if any trust or have any confidence at all with news media and according to Forbes and Gallop, trust in media is at the lowest levels ever recorded. Trump has been very vocal and successful at exposing their corruption and dishonesty. Trump coined the term "Fake News" and Trump has repeated countless times: News media as being the enemy of the people.
I for one am not buying into the "Swamps" lies, misinformation and hate for this man. I refuse to fall into their trap and join the Hate Trump Bandwagon like others who supported him in the past. I will never let main stream corrupt media tell me who I need to vote for.
Qualifications to be President
I think by then we the people will Have That FEMA Government with the Ten districts under Military Law.
serf
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/martial-law-times-civil-disorder
Martial law involves the temporary substitution of military authority for civilian rule and is usually invoked in time of war, rebellion, or natural disaster.
Abstract
When martial law is in effect, the military commander of an area or country has unlimited authority to make and enforce laws. Martial law is justified when civilian authority has ceased to function, is completely absent, or has become ineffective. Further, martial law suspends all existing laws, as well as civil authority and the ordinary administration of justice. In the United States, martial law may be declared by proclamation of the President or a State governor, but such a formal proclamation is not necessary. Although the U.S. Constitution makes no specific provision for the imposition of martial law, nearly every State has a constitutional provision authorizing the government to impose martial law. The power of martial law, once held to be nearly absolute, has limitations; for example, civilians may not be tried by military tribunals as long as civilian courts are functional. Nonetheless, within the bounds of court decisions, a military commander's authority under martial law is virtually unlimited. Martial law has been declared nine times since World War II and, in five instances, was designed to counter resistance to Federal desegregation decrees in the South. Although a climate of mutual aid has always existed between the military and civilian law enforcement and should continue to exist, Department of Defense personnel are limited in what they can do to enforce civil law. Military personnel cannot be used in surveillance or undercover operations, and they may not be used as informants, investigators, or interrogators unless the investigation is a joint military-civilian operation in which the military has an interest in the case's outcome.
I don't disagree. The issue is not you, the issue is not me, the issue is not the (R) party. The issue is the tens to hundreds of millions of MSM viewers that think the Jan. 6th hearings were the truth, the whole truth and not made for TV drama. People WANT to believe NPR, MNSBC, CNN and broadcast TV. They want to listen to the late night talking heads, and they do. They watch the VIEW and swallow the crap by the bucket full. They want to believe Joy Bayher (SP?) is a damm Goddess of truth. So many millions are so full of TDS that even if God himself came down and said Trump done good for the nation they would still HATE HIS GUTS. They would vote for Satan himself before even listening to any words of reason. That is why he should not run.
On the other hand, if he doesn't run, they win. Even if they lose.
I think a good, well respected likeable public figure like Desantis could win. Florida is a huge win and Desantis could assure that. He is not as toxic to millions of people like Trump is. I can't see the future but if Trump was wise, swallowed his ego and thought it through he could be a king maker for the nation for the next 10 years. But, until the 2024 election season starts who knows what will happen.
Whoever the Democrats nominate will be the next president regardless. The 2020 corruption fiasco demonstrated that you can meddle with the voting all you want and there are no consequences.
"The issue is the tens to hundreds of millions of MSM viewers that think"
LMAO at that statement.
1st, there are NOT tens and especially NOT MILLIONS of MSM viewers.
2nd, the few thousands that they do have, don't think!
FJB
MAGA, Trump 2024!
Oh yes he is hated...nearly as much as Trump...he will get the same treatment Trump did... you know why..?? Because they got away with it.. they got away with stealing the election.. they got away with setting up January 6... they know they are above the law.. Trump was just the beginning.. you ain't seen nothing yet..
I do believe you have nailed It...
Take a look at their ratings. They are all in the toilet. Late nite TV, IE Kimmel etc. Their ratings and viewership is so poor they all are close to being cancelled. Breitbart had a recent article on late nite TVs ratings as so poor major changes are eminent. Specifically the subject of Trump. People are sick of it.
CNN has such poor viewership and lost many advertisers. Same with MSDNC.
Rating to the Jan 6th We Hate Trump Fest was equally poor.
One way or the other..........Tuesday's midterm elections will tell us VERY much!!
Red Wave.....or not. Election cheating....or not. MSM polls correct(read: biased)....or not.
If the entire country has lost its mind.......or NOT!!!!!
Time(about 48 hours)will tell......
As usual.......my $0.02 .
If Congress can be allowed to subvert The Constitution by/with the judicial branch like coining money with trillions of dollars of worthless Fiat paper money and then spend the nation into debt slavery. So then yes voting means nothing and there is no consequences. You are just subject to a plural dictatorship, Being the head of state is just a figure head for the money lenders buying votes,
serf
If Trump isn't the GOP nominee, it will be a 3-way race. There are at least 75,000,000 voters PO'd at how the 2020 votes were counted. Many will make use of the write-in on their ballot.
In that scenario it 100% guarantees a (D) victory. If Newsome is the (D) nominee he will make Biden look like a saint. I too am PO'ed about the election fraud in 2020. Nothing can be done about it so I refuse to allow past transgressions alter my vote based upon anger over something I can not change.
I think its' naive to think that wouldn't quickly switch. It's the power the media has to paint someone as evil. They did it to Trump who used to be a Democratic party member and voter. They'll go just as hard against DeSantis. The question is whether DeSantis will be able to weather the storms like Trump has.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
There is a lot of speculation about Trump, first he has to win the primary in 2024. Even if he would get the nod he can only serve one term. Between Trump or DeSantis I believe DeSantis would win the primary this time. If DeSantis does decide to run and would win the primary; I just wonder how many x girl friends and lovers of the past the Communist run media can dig up on him.
After last night I doubt he will even show his face in public very much. The R's got smoked.
bpost, you are spot on. I was there from the very beginning at the second or third demonstration against the Safe Act of 2013. Trump made a lot of promises and turned down a draft to be Governor of NY. I followed him and voted for him twice but now it is time to MOVE ON. ----------------------------------Ray
He doesn't know how to weather the storm. Most people would hunker down and play it safe until the worst of it was over. Trump would stand out in the worst of it, and try to act like God and make the storm end. As much as I agree with his politics, I really think that he should back off and back someone else. He is just such a distraction that he is always under attack, and nothing else can get done for us.
Absolutely Agree 1000% ! When Trump had his team send DeSantis a message to "stay in Florida" and called him
"De-Sanctimonius", he lost a lot of respect and votes with millions of people.
It will be fun to watch Trump blow up when he loses in the primaries to DeSantis. Of course his ego won't let him accept his loss and he will run as a third party candidate and torpedo any repub chance in 24. I liked his politics but I wish he would just retire to MaraLago and play golf. Bob
It will be Desantis against Newsome in 2024..And Desantis will lose.. Don't know why people hate Trump so much because he was one of the best presidents this country has ever had..I guess we will get what we deserve..
I for one have my TRUMP 2024 flag waiting. I do believe in Rin DeSantis and he definitely has my vote if he gets the nomination. But once again I believe yesterday some strings were pulled.
Newsome won yesterday here in Commifornia.🤬 Can't think of anything else as awful as Governor Fruit Cake running for President.
"Independence Now, Independence Forever."
John Adams
What a difference two years make. Trump is no longer a viable candidate. The liberals and media have made sure of that. Like I said, even if they lose, they win.
Exactly... they are the Rulers... might as well get used to it...By the way.. Paul Ryan and Jeb Bush are backing Desantis for President... now let that sink in... Same Old.. Same Old...1 Big Club.. And We Ain't In It...
I do not know just what it is about Mike Pence. To me he has always just been a shadow person. This may sound very silly or even stupid to most but back in my younger days growing up in the early 60's I had a couple of those 12" toy GI Joe action figures. Every time I see photos of Mike, I see my old blonde GI Joe has come to life!! 😲
I like Mike Pence but I can't imagine millions of people voting for him especially what Brandon calls "MAGA Republicans"
"Independence Now, Independence Forever."
John Adams
They want another Politician in there.. someone who will play ball... Trump wouldn't play ball and only tried to help the people... they are going to make sure that doesn't happen again.. they have turned everyone against him... everyone..if that doesn't tell you.. nothing will..
Floyd621, The latest Trump shenanigans of attacking DeSantis makes him look really bad. Trump was a good, no, very good president especially with all the headwinds he faced while in office. He got a lot done in spite of the RINO's and (D) Marxists fighting him every step of the way. He spoke from the heart, he spoke the truth about the swamp.
That is over, that is history, his term in office is over. Even if the election is proven to be stolen in 50 years there is nothing that can undo Biden being sworn in as POTUS.
Today and into the future Trump loyalists need to remove the rose colored glasses and realize Trump is just a man, he is not the be all end all of political leadership for Conservative Causes. His flaying wild attacks upon good (R) people makes him look bad, real bad. He is not responsible for the success of DeSantis, Ron Desantis and his supporting family are the reason he is Governor of Florida, not Donald Trump.
The more Trump lashes out, the more he lays claim to other peoples success the more foolish and egotistical he looks. He is turning off many supporters and should just shut up, deal behind the scenes and keep his ego in check. Since he refuses to do that his popularity is only going to be further diminished.
Well now Mitch McConnell is backing Desantis...and I live in Kentucky.. that's not good... just another team player.. Looks like Dubya part 2 incoming..I was hoping he would be more like Trump.. but I guess we are going back to the same old song and dance.. America doesn't deserve a Good President..
Mitch the * needs to go....
Trump fought harder than anybody for the people.. Anybody... now everyone is turning against him.. the people will get what they deserve... the Democrats Won..live with it...
Well, Trump is running for President in 2024...
May the Lord be with him.
"Independence Now, Independence Forever."
John Adams
Floyd621, Supporters are not turning against him. His supporters will always be his supporters for what he did for our Nation. His supporters are not the problem. It is the 80 million or so that are not his supporters that will stop his reelection. Nobody can predict the future but knowing the past can help show the path. That path is closed for Trump, time to take a different road. and NO, not one that has a (D) after his or her name.