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quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by Scottymac
I think that is a wrong assumption.
The people who are abused, neglected, or otherwise damaged may respond as you describe sometimes but....
People can't control or choose their chromosomes.
Some people for whatever reason, defect, Deity, hormonal imbalance caused by genetically modified food, or whatever have the wrong identity of their outward and obvious physical characteristics.
Other then a rare few, I don't think anyone chooses to be happy.
Just like I can't help being attracted to a sexy female happy people can't help their attractions either.
I don't think you can decide to become a pervert either. Those who are attracted to the undeveloped female/male are sick but I highly doubt a choice is made.
Every family who has a child, sibling, etc. who have provided a loving environment is not at fault for the resulting choices of the off spring as you indicate.
We belong to a fallen race, and are "prone to wander"
There are many forms of rebellion, whether it be pride, lying, murder, or sexual deviancy. There are plenty more.
They are all just symptoms, however, of the rebellion and the emnity between men and God.
On this day when we recall the resurrection, we should be comforted that all of those symptoms will be healed, for those who will.
Problem is, some will choose otherwise, and will die, ratifying that decision.
As the Moody Blues said,
"Just what you want to be,
You'll be in the end..."
In the meanwhile, we are given the opinion of God in the matter for our benefit.
Men ignore it to their peril.
Well stated.
"Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
Back to my "Intelligence claim"...have you ever seen a happy native American?....Aboriginese?.....Dog?....Cat?.....Mule?.....Minister?...Zombie?...[:o)]
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
Back to my "Intelligence claim"...have you ever seen a happy native American?....Aboriginese?.....Dog?....Cat?.....Mule?.....Minister?...Zombie?...[:o)]
quote:Originally posted by bigt7mm
Oh well, killing millions of unborn children is considered by some to be normal and acceptable now, so why not this?
Mark my words, bestiality and pedophilia aren't far behind. If someone is BORN that way, they can't help themselves.
After all, who are WE to judge, or say what is right or wrong?
Right?
No, not right. Killing babies is wrong, another is killed by the action. Bestiality and pedophilia harm others.
Happies are hurting no one, causing no harm to you or me in any way; the only judgement I have of them is I am glad I am heterosexual and always have been.
I'm just happy that I'm not samesexual or happy or a friend. Right now I'm too occupied with straightening out the problems of the world, how to defeat ISIS and politics in the United States to worry much about it.
Back in the 1970s our Chief Quartermaster was in the pilothouse laying out a track to Nassau. He mentioned the last time we made a Caribbean cruise he was bi-sexual. The XO said he didn't hear that, but the Chief should be careful who he told about it. The Chief said it was true. The only way he got any sex in the Bahamas was buy it.
While it is true that what consenting adults do in their own homes harms no one else, it is decidedly less true when their public actions are considered. At least where the activist, militant wing of the Happys is concerned.
It is undeniable that what they ask for has evolved from acceptance, to a demand for acclamation. They don't want to be left alone, they want to be celebrated and applauded.
As to their claims to be 'just like everyone else', it is nonsense. I have yet to meet a hetero who had as the defining factor in their lives how and on whom they used their personal plumbing. Having their 'happy-ness' as the central identifying feature of their persona is as common in that community as wearing shoes.
Add in the bizarre behavior displayed during their Happy Pride Parades, and being like everyone else is a claim with no basis in reality. 'Everyone else' does not hold annual parades that appear to show what happens when the Circus Train derails as it passes through the Zoo.
I'd probably be a lot more "live and let live" on g_y people if they weren't afforded the opportunity to sue anyone who doesn't want to participate in their choices.
A baker won't bake you a wedding cake? Too bad. Find another baker and patronize their business.
Bizarre behavior and parades. never been to New Orleans Mardi Gras have you? hehehehehhehehehehequote:Originally posted by Dads3040
While it is true that what consenting adults do in their own homes harms no one else, it is decidedly less true when their public actions are considered. At least where the activist, militant wing of the Happys is concerned.
It is undeniable that what they ask for has evolved from acceptance, to a demand for acclamation. They don't want to be left alone, they want to be celebrated and applauded.
As to their claims to be 'just like everyone else', it is nonsense. I have yet to meet a hetero who had as the defining factor in their lives how and on whom they used their personal plumbing. Having their 'happy-ness' as the central identifying feature of their persona is as common in that community as wearing shoes.
Add in the bizarre behavior displayed during their Happy Pride Parades, and being like everyone else is a claim with no basis in reality. 'Everyone else' does not hold annual parades that appear to show what happens when the Circus Train derails as it passes through the Zoo.
dennisnielsen.
People are no more at fault for being born abnormally than that deer was. The bible also says God is no respecter of persons. That means he loves you no more than anybody else for the way you were born. What sin did they commit before they were born. Being born a certain way is not a sin. Hating people for that is.
As I said before all people who profess to be happy are not but some are simply immoral. I hate immorality. The trouble is I can't always tell the difference so I leave it up to God. The immoral happy parades are just that. They are celebrating immorality for the most part. I would much rather leave those important decisions up to Gog than leave them up to someone who can't spell Baptist. There could come a day when people are euthanized because their eyes are too close together. What would be the difference? What is to stop a abnormally born person from going to heaven? Only one thing and it has no relation to his physical form or sex in any way. John 3/16
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
While it is true that what consenting adults do in their own homes harms no one else, it is decidedly less true when their public actions are considered. At least where the activist, militant wing of the Happys is concerned.
It is undeniable that what they ask for has evolved from acceptance, to a demand for acclamation. They don't want to be left alone, they want to be celebrated and applauded.
As to their claims to be 'just like everyone else', it is nonsense. I have yet to meet a hetero who had as the defining factor in their lives how and on whom they used their personal plumbing. Having their 'happy-ness' as the central identifying feature of their persona is as common in that community as wearing shoes.
Add in the bizarre behavior displayed during their Happy Pride Parades, and being like everyone else is a claim with no basis in reality. 'Everyone else' does not hold annual parades that appear to show what happens when the Circus Train derails as it passes through the Zoo.
X-ringer
"Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
dennisnielsen.
People are no more at fault for being born abnormally than that deer was. The bible also says God is no respecter of persons. That means he loves you no more than anybody else for the way you were born. What sin did they commit before they were born. Being born a certain way is not a sin. Hating people for that is.
As I said before all people who profess to be happy are not but some are simply immoral. I hate immorality. The trouble is I can't always tell the difference so I leave it up to God. The immoral happy parades are just that. They are celebrating immorality for the most part. I would much rather leave those important decisions up to Gog than leave them up to someone who can't spell Baptist. There could come a day when people are euthanized because their eyes are too close together. What would be the difference? What is to stop a abnormally born person from going to heaven? Only one thing and it has no relation to his physical form or sex in any way. John 3/16
. Problem is every famous limp wrist and rug muncher is shoving their twisted sickness down our kid's throats 24/7! I remember telling my aunt that if my cousin ever flolicked in front of my young daughter again there would be trouble. The other thing is straight people have less rights making out in public now, Happy's just yell discrimination. I first read the Bible in Latin as a child. I may have fell from motorcycles and aircraft landing on my head but know enough to tell you are full of it judgemental school mark hypocrite.
We never knew you went to private school. We were always under the impression you went to public school and grew up poor.
kidthatsirish
So if your born physically deformed it's a sin? What is the difference between being mentally retarded or defective in some way at birth and physically deformed ? Are they both a sin? That was Hitlers theory. Kill them all. Your the one who doesn't understand the Bible or God.
I'm positive that God does not hold people responsible for anything they had no part in. I hope you are never judged by your own standards.
All these so called happy people are not the same. Creation is extremely complex. Try to entertain the thought that you might be wrong sometime. I know it's hard.
Do you know that God doesn't love everybody? That's bible.
I just read your profile. I don't see any point in talking with you further.
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
kidthatsirish
So if your born physically deformed it's a sin? What is the difference between being mentally retarded or defective in some way at birth and physically deformed ? Are they both a sin? That was Hitlers theory. Kill them all. Your the one who doesn't understand the Bible or God.
I'm positive that God does not hold people responsible for anything they had no part in. I hope you are never judged by your own standards.
All these so called happy people are not the same. Creation is extremely complex. Try to entertain the thought that you might be wrong sometime. I know it's hard.
Do you know that God doesn't love everybody? That's bible.
have you read your bible at all? try reading the chapter of Leviticus. how can GOD contradict himself? if he supposedly created people as q-u-e-e-r-s, then why would he condemn it, and call it an abomination? they were not born that way anymore that a thief, rapist, lier, murderer and so on. all condemned in the bible. it is simply a choice. you missed the part where it says to stone them to death? even if you don't believe in GOD, you know its wrong! it is simply un-natural and sick. hell is full of un-repentant sinners. GOD is wholly and no sin can enter his presence or kingdom. there are no un-repentant q-u-e-e-r-s in heaven.
swearengine
Well almost completely different.
burpfire
If we were to go by the laws of the old testament we would be the same as the sharia law. Are you willing to live by the old testament?
I doubt if you would be alive under that law. Well maybe if you had enough animals to sacrifice for your sins. Of course God don't accept sheep anymore. Yes I read and whole thing.
Question-- God is all powerful so why does he need somebody to do his killing for him? When some one sins instead of commanding we stone them to death why doesn't he just kill the guy himself? An all powerful God doesn't need any help getting rid of whomever he wants to . Right??
THINK to many people let somebody else do their thinking for them
Hate to break the news , but God nor any Supreme being has anything to do with same sex relationships...the Ancients practiced samesexuality regularly ..Only the Puritan Christians recognized it as Sodomy...in a perfect world ,there would be no same sex relationships...only the strong survive, and happys as we know them cannot survive are replenish the population, without heterosexual relationships.. period...its a crime against nature to be of same sex unions...not my rule, the natural order rule...[:o)]
quote:Originally posted by burpfire
quote:Originally posted by RobOz
I think some people choose to be happy, but the majority are born wired happy. I say live and let live. Other than that, I don't have a poodle in this fight[;)]
born that way? so GOD is a contradiction? how could GOD create a person as q-u-e-e-r, then call it a sin? read the chapter of Leviticus, it is one of a few chapters that condems h-o-m-o-s. these things weren't born this way, anymore than a person was born a thief, or a child molester, or a murderer! I laugh when people say its in their genes, or dna! HA! where is the proof? scientists have been able to isolate every gene and dna, but not the q-u-e-e-r gene? huh? strange they cant find it? if people were born this way, explain to me why they cant find the gene, better yet, explain to me why there is documented cases of identical twins born, " they share the same dna, and genes, " yet one of them is q-u-e-e-r and the other is not.
everyone IS born with a sinful nature, this is firmly stated from GOD. we are all told we must master it, or it will consume us. two of my favorite quotes from GOD " there is a way which seemeth right unto man, but in the end death! " and " your ways and thoughts are not my ways and thoughts "
Well I hate to be the one to inform you but you couldn't be more wrong. You better go study up on some human biology. People who choose that lifestyle are immoral in my opinion but that is not always the case. I don't think that people who are born that way are the ones who try and force their ways upon others. I think it is the immoral ones.
Check this out if you have any inclination to be more informed. http://www.isna.org/faq/frequency http://oii-usa.org/2563/how-common-is-intersex-in-humans/
I do not profess to believe all the statistics as far as frequency goes.
LGBT Terms and Definitions. LGBT - Lesbian, happy, Bisexual, Transgender.
Transgender: denoting or relating to a person whose self-identity does not conform unambiguously to conventional notions of male or female gender.
Think "BT" was added years ago to form a larger group. As if one was needed.
Raised two boys in Colombia S.A. who where aged 10 / 12. One required chore they HATED was washing and drying dishes.
We were at the dinner table when when one of them said washing dishes caused people to become happy. happys made a lot less money. Their mother confirmed it's what she thought.
Told them they'd better get used to washing dishes and find a very rich happy.
Liberal-progressives know that to get their way, to win, they must destroy the traditional, conservative way of life and replace it with their perverted, totalitarian version of society.
The LGBT thing is merely one part of their attack on a society and way of life that has brought us the civilization the liberal-progressives are trying to replace.
LBGTs can do whatever they want to one another. So what? But the essential thing for liberal-progressives is to force others to accept them without qualification or reservation.
To this end, they are passing one law after another to force LBGTs down our throats. Forcing us to allow male queens to use female restrooms and vice versa. Forcing those with religious reservations to accept LBGTs into their homes, private clubs, and businesses. Forbidding anyone to mention LBGTs in a critical manner. Demanding that everyone agree with their liberal-progressive philosophies or be attacked, physically and vocally, for their disagreement.
It is disgraceful how ready most Americans are to surrender their freedom, their liberty, in the service of political correctness determined and defined by the liberal-progressive tyranny.
quote:Originally posted by RobOz
Are all sins equal in Gods eye?
There are 6 different verses in the NT that quote Jesus saying to the effect that judgment for one group will be "more tolerable" than for another.
That leads me to believe that, no, sins aren't all the same.
And similarly, there are several verses that suggest greater or lesser "reward".
Mat 16:27 says explicitly: For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
This passage suggests rewards both good and bad, and they are "according to his works". Since one man's works are not equal to another man's it only stands to reason that the rewards will be of varying degree, from this passage alone. But there are others.
There are many other passages that deal similarly with rewards.
One can only conclude, from studying them, that there are indeed varying rewards. Some are noted specifically as being "great".
That all sin carries the consequence of eternal separation from God, it often gets lost in the mix that there are indeed differing levels of punishment.
That all those saved by grace through faith are promised to be eternally in God's presence, it often gets lost that there are differing levels of reward, as well.
Bringing this discussion back to the topic of the OP, it should be noted that sexual perversion, in particular, is called an abomination by God. Other sins are not given the same distinction, leading the reader to conclude that the abominable sins of sexual perversion are worse than others.
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
Liberal-progressives know that to get their way, to win, they must destroy the traditional, conservative way of life and replace it with their perverted, totalitarian version of society.
The LGBT thing is merely one part of their attack on a society and way of life that has brought us the civilization the liberal-progressives are trying to replace.
LBGTs can do whatever they want to one another. So what? But the essential thing for liberal-progressives is to force others to accept them without qualification or reservation.
To this end, they are passing one law after another to force LBGTs down our throats. Forcing us to allow male queens to use female restrooms and vice versa. Forcing those with religious reservations to accept LBGTs into their homes, private clubs, and businesses. Forbidding anyone to mention LBGTs in a critical manner. Demanding that everyone agree with their liberal-progressive philosophies or be attacked, physically and vocally, for their disagreement.
It is disgraceful how ready most Americans are to surrender their freedom, their liberty, in the service of political correctness determined and defined by the liberal-progressive tyranny.
tallcharlie.
I agree with you 100% on that. They are using it to gain the votes of the immoral. What I am trying to say is there is a fraction of happys and lesbians that are legitimate. I don't think that fraction is very large though. I believe most of those who profess that are just immoral. It's the democrat party and the immoral who are trying to promote it for votes. In my opinion the Democrat party is the party of the ungodly. Only a bunch of ungodly people would promote immorality for political reasons. I resent it as much as anybody having it pushed on me from every angle. Also it seems that every movie and documentary made is subtly using the anti racism to brain wash society and they think we are to stupid to be aware of it.
Even the commercials are constructed to brain wash us racially of sexually in many cases. It infers that we are all racist or bigots of some type and I resent the heck out of it.
It is very evident that One political party is trying to destroy Christianity.
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
By the way. Did Jesus ever stone anybody to death for anything. Why not? That's the old law isn't it?
Maybe in all your "years" "studying" the word, you noticed that was not why He came... that time.
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
kidthatsirish
So if your born physically deformed it's a sin? What is the difference between being mentally retarded or defective in some way at birth and physically deformed ? Are they both a sin? That was Hitlers theory. Kill them all. Your the one who doesn't understand the Bible or God.
I'm positive that God does not hold people responsible for anything they had no part in. I hope you are never judged by your own standards.
All these so called happy people are not the same. Creation is extremely complex. Try to entertain the thought that you might be wrong sometime. I know it's hard.
Do you know that God doesn't love everybody? That's bible.
I just read your profile. I don't see any point in talking with you further.
I guess the whole point of my post went over your head? Wouldn't be the first time I failed to communicate effectively, probably won't be the last. All of mankind has been born with sin nature since the fall. We all have sinned, fact. So what I was trying to illustrate was how the choice or lack of choice to be happy has nothing to do with wether or not people are good or right or whatever they want to call it. At the end of the day we are all sinners and we are born with an inclination towards sin of some sort. That was my point, it's wether or not you live a continued life or repentance and try to turn from sin or do you just accept it as part of your "culture" and accept it.
kidthatsirish.
If somebody is born retarded can they just chance their mind later on and be OK? There are birth defects and There are people born that are not normal sexually. That is just a known fact. It is a genetic mix-up. just like the seer you we talking about. What choice did it have?
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
kidthatsirish.
If somebody is born retarded can they just chance their mind later on and be OK? There are birth defects and There are people born that are not normal sexually. That is just a known fact. It is a genetic mix-up. just like the seer you we talking about. What choice did it have?
It didnt have a choice but that's not my point, my point is it does not matter! Everyone is born in sin, everyone is born with the inclination to do sinful things because of the fall. Does not matter if your born that way or not, God still says do not do it. Fortunately God made a path of redemption for us through his own sacrifice, so that so long as the person accepts the gift of salvation through Christ and leads a life of repentance they can be saved, regardless of how they were born or the sinful choices of their past. I for one amore grateful for this! I have done many wrong things in my life, but through faith and grace my punishment was paid for. That is the only point I have to make.......btw, what was it about my profile that was so wrong to you....I read it again myself and see nothing so terrible in it.
So when it comes to things like LGBTs using the restrooms for other sexes, forcing people to deal with them if they have genuine objections, and so on, we should change society for the good of the few at the expense of the many?
Give me a break!
You don't change the rules, morals, and laws of an entire society for the benefit of a few sexually confused individuals. No, don't persecute these people, but don't punish others or force them to aid and abet the few.
It's like anything else in a fair society, we don't take away a person's hope or opportunity to improve himself because he's just somewhat different, but likewise we don't penalize others to promote his differences.
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
kidthatsirish.
If somebody is born retarded can they just chance their mind later on and be OK? There are birth defects and There are people born that are not normal sexually. That is just a known fact. It is a genetic mix-up. just like the seer you we talking about. What choice did it have?
Come back to the discussion when you have proof that samesexual proclivities in humans is anything other than choice.
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
No ' You prove it is nothing but choice. I contend that people are born abnormally in a unlimited number of ways you contend that they are not. Anybody can see that they are in every day life. Explain the deer. You contend that mental abnormalities do not exist or are limited to everything else but sexual orientation. Even chickens lay double yoke eggs that's not normal. How about the chicken I told you about? Did that chicken choose to be that way? Give me a logical explanation.
There is a lot of things in the old testament that are irrelevant today. We are not supposed to eat pork according to the old testament.
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
No ' You prove it is nothing but choice. I contend that people are born abnormally in a unlimited number of ways you contend that they are not. Anybody can see that they are in every day life. Explain the deer. You contend that mental abnormalities do not exist or are limited to everything else but sexual orientation. Even chickens lay double yoke eggs that's not normal. How about the chicken I told you about? Did that chicken choose to be that way? Give me a logical explanation.
There is a lot of things in the old testament that are irrelevant today. We are not supposed to eat pork according to the old testament.
I'm not the one making excuses for the perverts, you are. So unless you can pony up some evidence that shows they have no say in the matter, shut your hole.
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
On the matter of choice versus birth defect (?) versus normal human genetic differences, consider the numbers.
Birth defects are relatively rare. LGBT behavior does not seem to be so rare as to fall into that category.
Choice seems to follow trends, fads, and popularity, and increases or decreases with the movements of society. LGBT behavior does appear to increase or decrease with the acceptance given it by the society.
Normal genetic or inherited differences occur at almost constant rates, so many births per thousand, plus or minus a known standard deviation. Because it does appear to vary in response to the societal controls - taboos, mores, morals, laws, etiquette, etc - and does not exhibit a more or less constant rate of occurrence, LGBT behavior does not seem to fit this category.
Therefore, while there may be and likely are exceptions due to mutation and genetic causes, the vast majority of LGBT behavior seems likely to be a life choice of the individual, and there is much evidence to support this conclusion.
Happy couples demanded marriage as being the only soultion to equality which it never will be. The Government is corrupt to no end however!
Abortion is a greater deviant of legislation that commits legal murder which makes America a mockery of ideas of honor and caring a higher sense of justice and liberty for all, it will fail in the end like all man's governments.
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
No ' You prove it is nothing but choice. I contend that people are born abnormally in a unlimited number of ways you contend that they are not. Anybody can see that they are in every day life. Explain the deer. You contend that mental abnormalities do not exist or are limited to everything else but sexual orientation. Even chickens lay double yoke eggs that's not normal. How about the chicken I told you about? Did that chicken choose to be that way? Give me a logical explanation.
There is a lot of things in the old testament that are irrelevant today. We are not supposed to eat pork according to the old testament.
Please provide the evidence that query behaviors are the result of anything genetic or environmental.
This has to do with database operations how?
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quote:Originally posted by Scottymac
I think that is a wrong assumption.
The people who are abused, neglected, or otherwise damaged may respond as you describe sometimes but....
People can't control or choose their chromosomes.
Some people for whatever reason, defect, Deity, hormonal imbalance caused by genetically modified food, or whatever have the wrong identity of their outward and obvious physical characteristics.
Other then a rare few, I don't think anyone chooses to be happy.
Just like I can't help being attracted to a sexy female happy people can't help their attractions either.
I don't think you can decide to become a pervert either. Those who are attracted to the undeveloped female/male are sick but I highly doubt a choice is made.
Every family who has a child, sibling, etc. who have provided a loving environment is not at fault for the resulting choices of the off spring as you indicate.
We belong to a fallen race, and are "prone to wander"
There are many forms of rebellion, whether it be pride, lying, murder, or sexual deviancy. There are plenty more.
They are all just symptoms, however, of the rebellion and the emnity between men and God.
On this day when we recall the resurrection, we should be comforted that all of those symptoms will be healed, for those who will.
Problem is, some will choose otherwise, and will die, ratifying that decision.
As the Moody Blues said,
"Just what you want to be,
You'll be in the end..."
In the meanwhile, we are given the opinion of God in the matter for our benefit.
Men ignore it to their peril.
Well stated.
Back to my "Intelligence claim"...have you ever seen a happy native American?....Aboriginese?.....Dog?....Cat?.....Mule?.....Minister?...Zombie?...[:o)]
Not all of those, but some.
Oh well, killing millions of unborn children is considered by some to be normal and acceptable now, so why not this?
Mark my words, bestiality and pedophilia aren't far behind. If someone is BORN that way, they can't help themselves.
After all, who are WE to judge, or say what is right or wrong?
Right?
No, not right. Killing babies is wrong, another is killed by the action. Bestiality and pedophilia harm others.
Happies are hurting no one, causing no harm to you or me in any way; the only judgement I have of them is I am glad I am heterosexual and always have been.
Back in the 1970s our Chief Quartermaster was in the pilothouse laying out a track to Nassau. He mentioned the last time we made a Caribbean cruise he was bi-sexual. The XO said he didn't hear that, but the Chief should be careful who he told about it. The Chief said it was true. The only way he got any sex in the Bahamas was buy it.
It is undeniable that what they ask for has evolved from acceptance, to a demand for acclamation. They don't want to be left alone, they want to be celebrated and applauded.
As to their claims to be 'just like everyone else', it is nonsense. I have yet to meet a hetero who had as the defining factor in their lives how and on whom they used their personal plumbing. Having their 'happy-ness' as the central identifying feature of their persona is as common in that community as wearing shoes.
Add in the bizarre behavior displayed during their Happy Pride Parades, and being like everyone else is a claim with no basis in reality. 'Everyone else' does not hold annual parades that appear to show what happens when the Circus Train derails as it passes through the Zoo.
A baker won't bake you a wedding cake? Too bad. Find another baker and patronize their business.
While it is true that what consenting adults do in their own homes harms no one else, it is decidedly less true when their public actions are considered. At least where the activist, militant wing of the Happys is concerned.
It is undeniable that what they ask for has evolved from acceptance, to a demand for acclamation. They don't want to be left alone, they want to be celebrated and applauded.
As to their claims to be 'just like everyone else', it is nonsense. I have yet to meet a hetero who had as the defining factor in their lives how and on whom they used their personal plumbing. Having their 'happy-ness' as the central identifying feature of their persona is as common in that community as wearing shoes.
Add in the bizarre behavior displayed during their Happy Pride Parades, and being like everyone else is a claim with no basis in reality. 'Everyone else' does not hold annual parades that appear to show what happens when the Circus Train derails as it passes through the Zoo.
People are no more at fault for being born abnormally than that deer was. The bible also says God is no respecter of persons. That means he loves you no more than anybody else for the way you were born. What sin did they commit before they were born. Being born a certain way is not a sin. Hating people for that is.
As I said before all people who profess to be happy are not but some are simply immoral. I hate immorality. The trouble is I can't always tell the difference so I leave it up to God. The immoral happy parades are just that. They are celebrating immorality for the most part. I would much rather leave those important decisions up to Gog than leave them up to someone who can't spell Baptist. There could come a day when people are euthanized because their eyes are too close together. What would be the difference? What is to stop a abnormally born person from going to heaven? Only one thing and it has no relation to his physical form or sex in any way. John 3/16
While it is true that what consenting adults do in their own homes harms no one else, it is decidedly less true when their public actions are considered. At least where the activist, militant wing of the Happys is concerned.
It is undeniable that what they ask for has evolved from acceptance, to a demand for acclamation. They don't want to be left alone, they want to be celebrated and applauded.
As to their claims to be 'just like everyone else', it is nonsense. I have yet to meet a hetero who had as the defining factor in their lives how and on whom they used their personal plumbing. Having their 'happy-ness' as the central identifying feature of their persona is as common in that community as wearing shoes.
Add in the bizarre behavior displayed during their Happy Pride Parades, and being like everyone else is a claim with no basis in reality. 'Everyone else' does not hold annual parades that appear to show what happens when the Circus Train derails as it passes through the Zoo.
X-ringer
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
dennisnielsen.
People are no more at fault for being born abnormally than that deer was. The bible also says God is no respecter of persons. That means he loves you no more than anybody else for the way you were born. What sin did they commit before they were born. Being born a certain way is not a sin. Hating people for that is.
As I said before all people who profess to be happy are not but some are simply immoral. I hate immorality. The trouble is I can't always tell the difference so I leave it up to God. The immoral happy parades are just that. They are celebrating immorality for the most part. I would much rather leave those important decisions up to Gog than leave them up to someone who can't spell Baptist. There could come a day when people are euthanized because their eyes are too close together. What would be the difference? What is to stop a abnormally born person from going to heaven? Only one thing and it has no relation to his physical form or sex in any way. John 3/16
. Problem is every famous limp wrist and rug muncher is shoving their twisted sickness down our kid's throats 24/7! I remember telling my aunt that if my cousin ever flolicked in front of my young daughter again there would be trouble. The other thing is straight people have less rights making out in public now, Happy's just yell discrimination. I first read the Bible in Latin as a child. I may have fell from motorcycles and aircraft landing on my head but know enough to tell you are full of it judgemental school mark hypocrite.
We never knew you went to private school. We were always under the impression you went to public school and grew up poor.
So if your born physically deformed it's a sin? What is the difference between being mentally retarded or defective in some way at birth and physically deformed ? Are they both a sin? That was Hitlers theory. Kill them all. Your the one who doesn't understand the Bible or God.
I'm positive that God does not hold people responsible for anything they had no part in. I hope you are never judged by your own standards.
All these so called happy people are not the same. Creation is extremely complex. Try to entertain the thought that you might be wrong sometime. I know it's hard.
Do you know that God doesn't love everybody? That's bible.
I just read your profile. I don't see any point in talking with you further.
Latin was not the original scripture text and The Latin Vulgate is completely different from the King James Version that Baptists advocate.
kidthatsirish
So if your born physically deformed it's a sin? What is the difference between being mentally retarded or defective in some way at birth and physically deformed ? Are they both a sin? That was Hitlers theory. Kill them all. Your the one who doesn't understand the Bible or God.
I'm positive that God does not hold people responsible for anything they had no part in. I hope you are never judged by your own standards.
All these so called happy people are not the same. Creation is extremely complex. Try to entertain the thought that you might be wrong sometime. I know it's hard.
Do you know that God doesn't love everybody? That's bible.
have you read your bible at all? try reading the chapter of Leviticus. how can GOD contradict himself? if he supposedly created people as q-u-e-e-r-s, then why would he condemn it, and call it an abomination? they were not born that way anymore that a thief, rapist, lier, murderer and so on. all condemned in the bible. it is simply a choice. you missed the part where it says to stone them to death? even if you don't believe in GOD, you know its wrong! it is simply un-natural and sick. hell is full of un-repentant sinners. GOD is wholly and no sin can enter his presence or kingdom. there are no un-repentant q-u-e-e-r-s in heaven.
Well almost completely different.
burpfire
If we were to go by the laws of the old testament we would be the same as the sharia law. Are you willing to live by the old testament?
I doubt if you would be alive under that law. Well maybe if you had enough animals to sacrifice for your sins. Of course God don't accept sheep anymore. Yes I read and whole thing.
Question-- God is all powerful so why does he need somebody to do his killing for him? When some one sins instead of commanding we stone them to death why doesn't he just kill the guy himself? An all powerful God doesn't need any help getting rid of whomever he wants to . Right??
THINK to many people let somebody else do their thinking for them
quote:Originally posted by RobOz
I think some people choose to be happy, but the majority are born wired happy. I say live and let live. Other than that, I don't have a poodle in this fight[;)]
born that way? so GOD is a contradiction? how could GOD create a person as q-u-e-e-r, then call it a sin? read the chapter of Leviticus, it is one of a few chapters that condems h-o-m-o-s. these things weren't born this way, anymore than a person was born a thief, or a child molester, or a murderer! I laugh when people say its in their genes, or dna! HA! where is the proof? scientists have been able to isolate every gene and dna, but not the q-u-e-e-r gene? huh? strange they cant find it? if people were born this way, explain to me why they cant find the gene, better yet, explain to me why there is documented cases of identical twins born, " they share the same dna, and genes, " yet one of them is q-u-e-e-r and the other is not.
everyone IS born with a sinful nature, this is firmly stated from GOD. we are all told we must master it, or it will consume us. two of my favorite quotes from GOD " there is a way which seemeth right unto man, but in the end death! " and " your ways and thoughts are not my ways and thoughts "
Well I hate to be the one to inform you but you couldn't be more wrong. You better go study up on some human biology. People who choose that lifestyle are immoral in my opinion but that is not always the case. I don't think that people who are born that way are the ones who try and force their ways upon others. I think it is the immoral ones.
Check this out if you have any inclination to be more informed.
http://www.isna.org/faq/frequency
http://oii-usa.org/2563/how-common-is-intersex-in-humans/
I do not profess to believe all the statistics as far as frequency goes.
Transgender: denoting or relating to a person whose self-identity does not conform unambiguously to conventional notions of male or female gender.
Think "BT" was added years ago to form a larger group. As if one was needed.
Raised two boys in Colombia S.A. who where aged 10 / 12. One required chore they HATED was washing and drying dishes.
We were at the dinner table when when one of them said washing dishes caused people to become happy. happys made a lot less money. Their mother confirmed it's what she thought.
Told them they'd better get used to washing dishes and find a very rich happy.
12 years later both are straight.
The LGBT thing is merely one part of their attack on a society and way of life that has brought us the civilization the liberal-progressives are trying to replace.
LBGTs can do whatever they want to one another. So what? But the essential thing for liberal-progressives is to force others to accept them without qualification or reservation.
To this end, they are passing one law after another to force LBGTs down our throats. Forcing us to allow male queens to use female restrooms and vice versa. Forcing those with religious reservations to accept LBGTs into their homes, private clubs, and businesses. Forbidding anyone to mention LBGTs in a critical manner. Demanding that everyone agree with their liberal-progressive philosophies or be attacked, physically and vocally, for their disagreement.
It is disgraceful how ready most Americans are to surrender their freedom, their liberty, in the service of political correctness determined and defined by the liberal-progressive tyranny.
Are all sins equal in Gods eye?
There are 6 different verses in the NT that quote Jesus saying to the effect that judgment for one group will be "more tolerable" than for another.
That leads me to believe that, no, sins aren't all the same.
And similarly, there are several verses that suggest greater or lesser "reward".
Mat 16:27 says explicitly: For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
This passage suggests rewards both good and bad, and they are "according to his works". Since one man's works are not equal to another man's it only stands to reason that the rewards will be of varying degree, from this passage alone. But there are others.
There are many other passages that deal similarly with rewards.
One can only conclude, from studying them, that there are indeed varying rewards. Some are noted specifically as being "great".
That all sin carries the consequence of eternal separation from God, it often gets lost in the mix that there are indeed differing levels of punishment.
That all those saved by grace through faith are promised to be eternally in God's presence, it often gets lost that there are differing levels of reward, as well.
Bringing this discussion back to the topic of the OP, it should be noted that sexual perversion, in particular, is called an abomination by God. Other sins are not given the same distinction, leading the reader to conclude that the abominable sins of sexual perversion are worse than others.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Liberal-progressives know that to get their way, to win, they must destroy the traditional, conservative way of life and replace it with their perverted, totalitarian version of society.
The LGBT thing is merely one part of their attack on a society and way of life that has brought us the civilization the liberal-progressives are trying to replace.
LBGTs can do whatever they want to one another. So what? But the essential thing for liberal-progressives is to force others to accept them without qualification or reservation.
To this end, they are passing one law after another to force LBGTs down our throats. Forcing us to allow male queens to use female restrooms and vice versa. Forcing those with religious reservations to accept LBGTs into their homes, private clubs, and businesses. Forbidding anyone to mention LBGTs in a critical manner. Demanding that everyone agree with their liberal-progressive philosophies or be attacked, physically and vocally, for their disagreement.
It is disgraceful how ready most Americans are to surrender their freedom, their liberty, in the service of political correctness determined and defined by the liberal-progressive tyranny.
tallcharlie.
I agree with you 100% on that. They are using it to gain the votes of the immoral. What I am trying to say is there is a fraction of happys and lesbians that are legitimate. I don't think that fraction is very large though. I believe most of those who profess that are just immoral. It's the democrat party and the immoral who are trying to promote it for votes. In my opinion the Democrat party is the party of the ungodly. Only a bunch of ungodly people would promote immorality for political reasons. I resent it as much as anybody having it pushed on me from every angle. Also it seems that every movie and documentary made is subtly using the anti racism to brain wash society and they think we are to stupid to be aware of it.
Even the commercials are constructed to brain wash us racially of sexually in many cases. It infers that we are all racist or bigots of some type and I resent the heck out of it.
It is very evident that One political party is trying to destroy Christianity.
By the way. Did Jesus ever stone anybody to death for anything. Why not? That's the old law isn't it?
Maybe in all your "years" "studying" the word, you noticed that was not why He came... that time.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
kidthatsirish
So if your born physically deformed it's a sin? What is the difference between being mentally retarded or defective in some way at birth and physically deformed ? Are they both a sin? That was Hitlers theory. Kill them all. Your the one who doesn't understand the Bible or God.
I'm positive that God does not hold people responsible for anything they had no part in. I hope you are never judged by your own standards.
All these so called happy people are not the same. Creation is extremely complex. Try to entertain the thought that you might be wrong sometime. I know it's hard.
Do you know that God doesn't love everybody? That's bible.
I just read your profile. I don't see any point in talking with you further.
I guess the whole point of my post went over your head? Wouldn't be the first time I failed to communicate effectively, probably won't be the last. All of mankind has been born with sin nature since the fall. We all have sinned, fact. So what I was trying to illustrate was how the choice or lack of choice to be happy has nothing to do with wether or not people are good or right or whatever they want to call it. At the end of the day we are all sinners and we are born with an inclination towards sin of some sort. That was my point, it's wether or not you live a continued life or repentance and try to turn from sin or do you just accept it as part of your "culture" and accept it.
BTW....what is so terrible about my profile?
If somebody is born retarded can they just chance their mind later on and be OK? There are birth defects and There are people born that are not normal sexually. That is just a known fact. It is a genetic mix-up. just like the seer you we talking about. What choice did it have?
kidthatsirish.
If somebody is born retarded can they just chance their mind later on and be OK? There are birth defects and There are people born that are not normal sexually. That is just a known fact. It is a genetic mix-up. just like the seer you we talking about. What choice did it have?
It didnt have a choice but that's not my point, my point is it does not matter! Everyone is born in sin, everyone is born with the inclination to do sinful things because of the fall. Does not matter if your born that way or not, God still says do not do it. Fortunately God made a path of redemption for us through his own sacrifice, so that so long as the person accepts the gift of salvation through Christ and leads a life of repentance they can be saved, regardless of how they were born or the sinful choices of their past. I for one amore grateful for this! I have done many wrong things in my life, but through faith and grace my punishment was paid for. That is the only point I have to make.......btw, what was it about my profile that was so wrong to you....I read it again myself and see nothing so terrible in it.
Give me a break!
You don't change the rules, morals, and laws of an entire society for the benefit of a few sexually confused individuals. No, don't persecute these people, but don't punish others or force them to aid and abet the few.
It's like anything else in a fair society, we don't take away a person's hope or opportunity to improve himself because he's just somewhat different, but likewise we don't penalize others to promote his differences.
kidthatsirish.
If somebody is born retarded can they just chance their mind later on and be OK? There are birth defects and There are people born that are not normal sexually. That is just a known fact. It is a genetic mix-up. just like the seer you we talking about. What choice did it have?
Come back to the discussion when you have proof that samesexual proclivities in humans is anything other than choice.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
There is a lot of things in the old testament that are irrelevant today. We are not supposed to eat pork according to the old testament.
No ' You prove it is nothing but choice. I contend that people are born abnormally in a unlimited number of ways you contend that they are not. Anybody can see that they are in every day life. Explain the deer. You contend that mental abnormalities do not exist or are limited to everything else but sexual orientation. Even chickens lay double yoke eggs that's not normal. How about the chicken I told you about? Did that chicken choose to be that way? Give me a logical explanation.
There is a lot of things in the old testament that are irrelevant today. We are not supposed to eat pork according to the old testament.
I'm not the one making excuses for the perverts, you are. So unless you can pony up some evidence that shows they have no say in the matter, shut your hole.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Birth defects are relatively rare. LGBT behavior does not seem to be so rare as to fall into that category.
Choice seems to follow trends, fads, and popularity, and increases or decreases with the movements of society. LGBT behavior does appear to increase or decrease with the acceptance given it by the society.
Normal genetic or inherited differences occur at almost constant rates, so many births per thousand, plus or minus a known standard deviation. Because it does appear to vary in response to the societal controls - taboos, mores, morals, laws, etiquette, etc - and does not exhibit a more or less constant rate of occurrence, LGBT behavior does not seem to fit this category.
Therefore, while there may be and likely are exceptions due to mutation and genetic causes, the vast majority of LGBT behavior seems likely to be a life choice of the individual, and there is much evidence to support this conclusion.
Abortion is a greater deviant of legislation that commits legal murder which makes America a mockery of ideas of honor and caring a higher sense of justice and liberty for all, it will fail in the end like all man's governments.
serf
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
No ' You prove it is nothing but choice. I contend that people are born abnormally in a unlimited number of ways you contend that they are not. Anybody can see that they are in every day life. Explain the deer. You contend that mental abnormalities do not exist or are limited to everything else but sexual orientation. Even chickens lay double yoke eggs that's not normal. How about the chicken I told you about? Did that chicken choose to be that way? Give me a logical explanation.
There is a lot of things in the old testament that are irrelevant today. We are not supposed to eat pork according to the old testament.
Please provide the evidence that query behaviors are the result of anything genetic or environmental.
This has to do with database operations how?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/03/saudis-to-execute-happys-who-show-their-sexuality-in-public-and-online