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quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
"How long did Trump supporters anxiously await the day Trump would shred/destroy/pummel HRC at a debate?
That guy didn't show up."
"TRUMP:
CONWAY:
TRUMP:
CONWAY: Well.
TRUMP:
CONWAY: Tomorrow is another--
TRUMP: Shut UP.
CONWAY:
TRUMP: Should've pointed out she got cheated on.
CONWAY: I don't think so.
TRUMP: Where'd I go wrong?
CONWAY: When you didn't learn anything..."
[:D]
Libzilla is angry again, proof enough that Trump won!!![:D][:D][:D]
I think another opportunity Trump missed was when he was talking about her commercials and how much she has already spent.
He should have hammered on the point that he got to the Republican nomination spending less than all other challengers, and he was spending his own money!
And he could of brow beat her for spending so much special interest money, like a true bought and paid for politician.
Easiest thing in this world to do, is spend someone elses money!
I believe he could bury her alive with just:
Exact and accurate numbers of the Obama economy and the actual unemployment rate. Also include the numbers for the "Under employed rate" and people not working that simply gave up and are not collecting unemployment.
You really want 4 or 8 more years of this?
The National Debt and how it has climbed under Obammy.
Immigration
Pay to play Clinton Foundation questions.
33,000 deleted emails and staffers pleading the 5th and being granted immunity. Along with Slick Willie meeting with Valerie Jarret.
Renting out the Lincoln Bedroom while she was first "lady".
Obamacare and her failed attempt at Hillary Care while Willie was Pres.
Ben Ganzi.
I would leave health, fitness, and stamina alone. She will flop again all on her own.
Stick to a script similar to this and Trump will win by a landslide.
quote:Originally posted by Ditch-Runner
when Hildibeast toss in Rosie and the slams on women trump should have tossed in Monica and Jenifer as distractions and bills fondness for the girls if your so great why did bill go shopping [:D][:D]
I also suspected that Monica, Jennifer and others might be mentioned by Trumph and when they were not mentioned I suspect Trumph is holding that card back for little later. Trumph did hint that he could have mentioned some other things that were not nice about her.
Lester Holt: Heck anyone, even Trumph could see him favoring Hillary.
Debate moderators, especially journalists should at least act like they are not biased.
At the end of the debate Lester stood up and extended his hand to Hillary first for a handshake and sit back down not offering his hand to Trump and Trumph casually noticed and later Trumph made first move for a handshake with Lester and Lester did not fully stand up for the handshake. Anyone else notice such?
Also racial bias correction training that was mentioned needs to start within the news media and journalists like Lester Holt and with the POTUS and first Lady instead of training with law enforcement personnel.
(but no one can say such because it not politically correct, yet)
quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
If you. An watch this thing and vote for either of these idiots, you must loathe America. There are virtually no practical specifics from either candidate. A laundry list of attempted gotcha comments, some of which work and some of which fall flat. Given the choice of the three folks on the stage, I'd pick Holt over either of them.
A vote for anyone other then Trump is a vote for The pantsuit. Stop trying to convince yourself otherwise.
Statists on the left tell me a vote for Liberty is a vote for Trump.
Statists on the right tell me a vote for Liberty is a vote for Hillary.
In my case it is neither, as I would never vote for either of these two Big Government anti-gun leftists for my President.
Trump wants to disarm people on the street. Most folks on this board would be subject to Trump's stalk-and-frisk gun confiscation program if implemented in New York, Chicago, D.C., Philly, New Jersey, etc.
Some may even be denied access to a fundamental right because some bureaucrat put them on a watch list of some kind without their knowledge. Hillary supports the latter, and also supports much more onerous universal background checks and limitations on certain firearms.
Why, as a 2nd Amendment supporter, should I give a crap which one of these idiots wins the Presidency? One may encourage government to pass laws allowing us to keep different types of firearms, but neither has any concern for, knowledge of, or interest in preserving the individual Liberty that is inherent in the 2nd.
The debate simply confirmed my decision that neither is worth supporting, and that particularly in this election, it is time to further support for a better way than the two-party, statist cabal.
Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.
He won the economy phase hands down and, no doubt, picked up some undecided voters on this issue.
His responses were measured and focused on what he felt were the key points he wanted to address...and when he did address them they were hammered home in a short, sweet, matter of fact manner.
quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
I thought the moderator was supposed to stay out of the debate. Those democrats just can't help themselves.
He's a registered republican.
That is what he says. Whether it is true or not is another matter. And simply stating it does nothing to explain away Holt's obvious bias.
What is not debatable is the simple fact that Holt asked a series of questions that put Trump on the defensive, and asked diddly squat of Hillary concerning deleting the the emails after they were under federal supoena, Clinton Foundation, Benghazi, sniper fire in Bosnia...the list is endless.
quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
Since it is the law, that was mighty big of him.
Member at a private club are you???
Yeah, back when I was two-wheeling it a lot more several of the bars I visited used the "private club" thing to keep blacks out.
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
I thought the moderator was supposed to stay out of the debate. Those democrats just can't help themselves.
He's a registered republican.
That is what he says. Whether it is true or not is another matter. And simply stating it does nothing to explain away Holt's obvious bias.
What is not debatable is the simple fact that Holt asked a series of questions that put Trump on the defensive, and asked diddly squat of Hillary concerning deleting the the emails after they were under federal supoena, Clinton Foundation, Benghazi, sniper fire in Bosnia...the list is endless.
I watched thirty-two minutes of it before the sniffling drove me to go read a book. Donald's vocabulary is very poor, sixth grade level, as is his disjointed phrases the rude faces won't get any converts, he looked pissed. Hillary is just a plain old-timey-* and she disgusts me without her uttering a word.
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
If you. An watch this thing and vote for either of these idiots, you must loathe America. There are virtually no practical specifics from either candidate. A laundry list of attempted gotcha comments, some of which work and some of which fall flat. Given the choice of the three folks on the stage, I'd pick Holt over either of them.
A vote for anyone other then Trump is a vote for The pantsuit. Stop trying to convince yourself otherwise.
Statists on the left tell me a vote for Liberty is a vote for Trump.
Statists on the right tell me a vote for Liberty is a vote for Hillary.
In my case it is neither, as I would never vote for either of these two Big Government anti-gun leftists for my President.
Trump wants to disarm people on the street. Most folks on this board would be subject to Trump's stalk-and-frisk gun confiscation program if implemented in New York, Chicago, D.C., Philly, New Jersey, etc.
Some may even be denied access to a fundamental right because some bureaucrat put them on a watch list of some kind without their knowledge. Hillary supports the latter, and also supports much more onerous universal background checks and limitations on certain firearms.
Why, as a 2nd Amendment supporter, should I give a crap which one of these idiots wins the Presidency? One may encourage government to pass laws allowing us to keep different types of firearms, but neither has any concern for, knowledge of, or interest in preserving the individual Liberty that is inherent in the 2nd.
The debate simply confirmed my decision that neither is worth supporting, and that particularly in this election, it is time to further support for a better way than the two-party, statist cabal.
www.balancedrebellion.com
The talk of stop and frisk was pretty disconcerting.
Hillary's talk of raising taxes and regulations would have the effect of putting my future plans to expand my small business on hold.
With as much as I detest both of these fools, at least the business climate in a Trump presidency wouldn't be detrimental to my future plans in that regard.
I don't want business operating freedom to step in the way of other more important constitutional freedoms however.
And Holt was an jerk.[xx(]
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
One I looked at showed an 80% No Change in expected vote with both Trump and Clinton running 50-50 as to who won tonight.
On the same poll noted above... Trump is gaining ground.Trump : 57.44%
Clinton : 37.83%
Neither : 3.18%
Don't Know : 1.54%
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
I thought the moderator was supposed to stay out of the debate. Those democrats just can't help themselves.
He's a registered republican.
That is what he says. Whether it is true or not is another matter. And simply stating it does nothing to explain away Holt's obvious bias.
What is not debatable is the simple fact that Holt asked a series of questions that put Trump on the defensive, and asked diddly squat of Hillary concerning deleting the the emails after they were under federal supoena, Clinton Foundation, Benghazi, sniper fire in Bosnia...the list is endless.
Oh.
Count me convinced then. Must be a democrat. Your position is that he's lying? Or that he turned into a democrat one evening and just hasn't realized it yet?
Anyone who isn't for Trump is a democrat. Even if they tell you that they aren't.
I walked away with the clear impression that both of them are intent on denying me my 2nd amendment rights. And trump would take away my 4th as well.
quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
I thought the moderator was supposed to stay out of the debate. Those democrats just can't help themselves.
He's a registered republican.
That is what he says. Whether it is true or not is another matter. And simply stating it does nothing to explain away Holt's obvious bias.
What is not debatable is the simple fact that Holt asked a series of questions that put Trump on the defensive, and asked diddly squat of Hillary concerning deleting the the emails after they were under federal supoena, Clinton Foundation, Benghazi, sniper fire in Bosnia...the list is endless.
Oh.
Count me convinced then. Must be a democrat. Your position is that he's lying? Or that he turned into a democrat one evening and just hasn't realized it yet?
Anyone who isn't for Trump is a democrat. Even if they tell you that they aren't.
I walked away with the clear impression that both of them are intent on denying me my 2nd amendment rights. And trump would take away my 4th as well.
I am not going to waste my time trying to convince you of anything.
You can't seem to separate simple concepts like political affiliation and bias, so anything with a higher difficulty factor is pretty well a non-starter as well.
You are unable to refute the amount and the focus of the questions Holt asked, so you deflect. Kinda silly, but then not surprising.
Comments
I thought the moderator was supposed to stay out of the debate. Those democrats just can't help themselves.
He's a registered republican.
Best response...30 yrs. and you have done nothing.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think he should have had a better plan. So far it looks as if he is winging it. That's not good.
Yep... [V]
"How long did Trump supporters anxiously await the day Trump would shred/destroy/pummel HRC at a debate?
That guy didn't show up."
"TRUMP:
CONWAY:
TRUMP:
CONWAY: Well.
TRUMP:
CONWAY: Tomorrow is another--
TRUMP: Shut UP.
CONWAY:
TRUMP: Should've pointed out she got cheated on.
CONWAY: I don't think so.
TRUMP: Where'd I go wrong?
CONWAY: When you didn't learn anything..."
[:D]
Libzilla is angry again, proof enough that Trump won!!![:D][:D][:D]
He should have hammered on the point that he got to the Republican nomination spending less than all other challengers, and he was spending his own money!
And he could of brow beat her for spending so much special interest money, like a true bought and paid for politician.
Easiest thing in this world to do, is spend someone elses money!
I believe he could bury her alive with just:
Exact and accurate numbers of the Obama economy and the actual unemployment rate. Also include the numbers for the "Under employed rate" and people not working that simply gave up and are not collecting unemployment.
You really want 4 or 8 more years of this?
The National Debt and how it has climbed under Obammy.
Immigration
Pay to play Clinton Foundation questions.
33,000 deleted emails and staffers pleading the 5th and being granted immunity. Along with Slick Willie meeting with Valerie Jarret.
Renting out the Lincoln Bedroom while she was first "lady".
Obamacare and her failed attempt at Hillary Care while Willie was Pres.
Ben Ganzi.
I would leave health, fitness, and stamina alone. She will flop again all on her own.
Stick to a script similar to this and Trump will win by a landslide.
when Hildibeast toss in Rosie and the slams on women trump should have tossed in Monica and Jenifer as distractions and bills fondness for the girls if your so great why did bill go shopping [:D][:D]
I also suspected that Monica, Jennifer and others might be mentioned by Trumph and when they were not mentioned I suspect Trumph is holding that card back for little later. Trumph did hint that he could have mentioned some other things that were not nice about her.
Lester Holt: Heck anyone, even Trumph could see him favoring Hillary.
Debate moderators, especially journalists should at least act like they are not biased.
At the end of the debate Lester stood up and extended his hand to Hillary first for a handshake and sit back down not offering his hand to Trump and Trumph casually noticed and later Trumph made first move for a handshake with Lester and Lester did not fully stand up for the handshake. Anyone else notice such?
Also racial bias correction training that was mentioned needs to start within the news media and journalists like Lester Holt and with the POTUS and first Lady instead of training with law enforcement personnel.
(but no one can say such because it not politically correct, yet)
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
If you. An watch this thing and vote for either of these idiots, you must loathe America. There are virtually no practical specifics from either candidate. A laundry list of attempted gotcha comments, some of which work and some of which fall flat. Given the choice of the three folks on the stage, I'd pick Holt over either of them.
A vote for anyone other then Trump is a vote for The pantsuit. Stop trying to convince yourself otherwise.
Statists on the left tell me a vote for Liberty is a vote for Trump.
Statists on the right tell me a vote for Liberty is a vote for Hillary.
In my case it is neither, as I would never vote for either of these two Big Government anti-gun leftists for my President.
Trump wants to disarm people on the street. Most folks on this board would be subject to Trump's stalk-and-frisk gun confiscation program if implemented in New York, Chicago, D.C., Philly, New Jersey, etc.
Some may even be denied access to a fundamental right because some bureaucrat put them on a watch list of some kind without their knowledge. Hillary supports the latter, and also supports much more onerous universal background checks and limitations on certain firearms.
Why, as a 2nd Amendment supporter, should I give a crap which one of these idiots wins the Presidency? One may encourage government to pass laws allowing us to keep different types of firearms, but neither has any concern for, knowledge of, or interest in preserving the individual Liberty that is inherent in the 2nd.
The debate simply confirmed my decision that neither is worth supporting, and that particularly in this election, it is time to further support for a better way than the two-party, statist cabal.
Brad Steele
His responses were measured and focused on what he felt were the key points he wanted to address...and when he did address them they were hammered home in a short, sweet, matter of fact manner.
I think he did just fine.
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
I thought the moderator was supposed to stay out of the debate. Those democrats just can't help themselves.
He's a registered republican.
That is what he says. Whether it is true or not is another matter. And simply stating it does nothing to explain away Holt's obvious bias.
What is not debatable is the simple fact that Holt asked a series of questions that put Trump on the defensive, and asked diddly squat of Hillary concerning deleting the the emails after they were under federal supoena, Clinton Foundation, Benghazi, sniper fire in Bosnia...the list is endless.
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
Since it is the law, that was mighty big of him.
Member at a private club are you???
Yeah, back when I was two-wheeling it a lot more several of the bars I visited used the "private club" thing to keep blacks out.
quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
I thought the moderator was supposed to stay out of the debate. Those democrats just can't help themselves.
He's a registered republican.
That is what he says. Whether it is true or not is another matter. And simply stating it does nothing to explain away Holt's obvious bias.
What is not debatable is the simple fact that Holt asked a series of questions that put Trump on the defensive, and asked diddly squat of Hillary concerning deleting the the emails after they were under federal supoena, Clinton Foundation, Benghazi, sniper fire in Bosnia...the list is endless.
BINGO!!
quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
If you. An watch this thing and vote for either of these idiots, you must loathe America. There are virtually no practical specifics from either candidate. A laundry list of attempted gotcha comments, some of which work and some of which fall flat. Given the choice of the three folks on the stage, I'd pick Holt over either of them.
A vote for anyone other then Trump is a vote for The pantsuit. Stop trying to convince yourself otherwise.
Statists on the left tell me a vote for Liberty is a vote for Trump.
Statists on the right tell me a vote for Liberty is a vote for Hillary.
In my case it is neither, as I would never vote for either of these two Big Government anti-gun leftists for my President.
Trump wants to disarm people on the street. Most folks on this board would be subject to Trump's stalk-and-frisk gun confiscation program if implemented in New York, Chicago, D.C., Philly, New Jersey, etc.
Some may even be denied access to a fundamental right because some bureaucrat put them on a watch list of some kind without their knowledge. Hillary supports the latter, and also supports much more onerous universal background checks and limitations on certain firearms.
Why, as a 2nd Amendment supporter, should I give a crap which one of these idiots wins the Presidency? One may encourage government to pass laws allowing us to keep different types of firearms, but neither has any concern for, knowledge of, or interest in preserving the individual Liberty that is inherent in the 2nd.
The debate simply confirmed my decision that neither is worth supporting, and that particularly in this election, it is time to further support for a better way than the two-party, statist cabal.
www.balancedrebellion.com
The talk of stop and frisk was pretty disconcerting.
Hillary's talk of raising taxes and regulations would have the effect of putting my future plans to expand my small business on hold.
With as much as I detest both of these fools, at least the business climate in a Trump presidency wouldn't be detrimental to my future plans in that regard.
I don't want business operating freedom to step in the way of other more important constitutional freedoms however.
And Holt was an jerk.[xx(]
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Current Polls:
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/09/who_won_debate_trump_clinton_poll_live_presidential.html
Trump : 53.35%
Clinton : 41.70%
Neither : 3.28%
Don't Know : 1.67%
Other polls are following suit.
One I looked at showed an 80% No Change in expected vote with both Trump and Clinton running 50-50 as to who won tonight.
On the same poll noted above... Trump is gaining ground.Trump : 57.44%
Clinton : 37.83%
Neither : 3.18%
Don't Know : 1.54%
quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
I thought the moderator was supposed to stay out of the debate. Those democrats just can't help themselves.
He's a registered republican.
That is what he says. Whether it is true or not is another matter. And simply stating it does nothing to explain away Holt's obvious bias.
What is not debatable is the simple fact that Holt asked a series of questions that put Trump on the defensive, and asked diddly squat of Hillary concerning deleting the the emails after they were under federal supoena, Clinton Foundation, Benghazi, sniper fire in Bosnia...the list is endless.
Oh.
Count me convinced then. Must be a democrat. Your position is that he's lying? Or that he turned into a democrat one evening and just hasn't realized it yet?
Anyone who isn't for Trump is a democrat. Even if they tell you that they aren't.
I walked away with the clear impression that both of them are intent on denying me my 2nd amendment rights. And trump would take away my 4th as well.
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
I thought the moderator was supposed to stay out of the debate. Those democrats just can't help themselves.
He's a registered republican.
That is what he says. Whether it is true or not is another matter. And simply stating it does nothing to explain away Holt's obvious bias.
What is not debatable is the simple fact that Holt asked a series of questions that put Trump on the defensive, and asked diddly squat of Hillary concerning deleting the the emails after they were under federal supoena, Clinton Foundation, Benghazi, sniper fire in Bosnia...the list is endless.
Oh.
Count me convinced then. Must be a democrat. Your position is that he's lying? Or that he turned into a democrat one evening and just hasn't realized it yet?
Anyone who isn't for Trump is a democrat. Even if they tell you that they aren't.
I walked away with the clear impression that both of them are intent on denying me my 2nd amendment rights. And trump would take away my 4th as well.
I am not going to waste my time trying to convince you of anything.
You can't seem to separate simple concepts like political affiliation and bias, so anything with a higher difficulty factor is pretty well a non-starter as well.
You are unable to refute the amount and the focus of the questions Holt asked, so you deflect. Kinda silly, but then not surprising.