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quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
quote:Originally posted by serf
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
Go stick your head in the sand and breathe deep, serf.
And miss the three-ring circus! You can't stop the tidal wave coming if you tried!
serf
Wish in one hand, poop in the other, and see which one fills up faster. Trump isn't going anywhere.[:X]
quote:Originally posted by pip5255
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
quote:Originally posted by serf
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
Go stick your head in the sand and breathe deep, serf.
And miss the three-ring circus! You can't stop the tidal wave coming if you tried!
serf
Wish in one hand, poop in the other, and see which one fills up faster. Trump isn't going anywhere.[:X]
that's something we agree on.................
Neither Did Bill Clinton who never had sex with Monica Lewinsky! What a joke politics has become!
serf
Generally, obstruction charges are laid when it is discovered that a person questioned in an investigation, other than a suspect, has lied to the investigating officer.
Serf posts and Wallie posts. Why do I even open them.
New Years resolutions...
Ros
Although always described as a cowboy, Roswellnative generally acts as a righter of wrongs or bodyguard of some sort, where he excels thanks to his resourcefulness and incredible gun prowesses.
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by SCOUT5
They will vote to impeach or they will vote on if to impeach? Big difference you know.
I think you are trying to distinguish between impeachment, and removal.
So that would depend upon which of the three paths eventually join, and how.
There won't even be a vote to impeach. Ryan would never let anything that stupid go to the floor. Liberal dreams that's all it is. It takes 50% of the house to impeach. There are 57 more republicans than democrat. Good luck on those odds. Dream on stupid. Smoke a few more joints.
Supposing President Trump is going to be impeached, or that the Democrats seriously want him impeached, before the 2018 mid-terms displays a serious lack of political acumen. The Democrats simply want to advertise they believe the President ought to be impeached, that he's done something worthy of impeachment. If the Republicans moved on an impeachment vote and hustled it through the House and Senate the Democrats would do everything possible to stall and delay.
The Democrats recently entertained introducing impeachment articles based on the President's statements about Korea. That ought to tell everyone just what their play is on impeachment. And the NY Times had a pretty good overview of the matter:
Since losing the election the Democrats have done a version of spitting on food - spoiling it so no one will want any, except they do it now as a warning to future Republican candidates for the office.
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
There won't even be a vote to impeach. Ryan would never let anything that stupid go to the floor. Liberal dreams that's all it is. It takes 50% of the house to impeach. There are 57 more republicans than democrat. Good luck on those odds. Dream on stupid. Smoke a few more joints.
You seriously underestimate Ryan?s ability to justify betrayal in pursuit of increasing his own political power.
quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
There won't even be a vote to impeach. Ryan would never let anything that stupid go to the floor. Liberal dreams that's all it is. It takes 50% of the house to impeach. There are 57 more republicans than democrat. Good luck on those odds. Dream on stupid. Smoke a few more joints.
You seriously underestimate Ryan?s ability to justify betrayal in pursuit of increasing his own political power.
Well Public opinion could have a say here, you think? President Trump better start thinking about that very soon.
And Midterm elections could change the equation of Rebulicans in the House real fast if the economy sours.
quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
Dear Jesus, why did I click on this? I have a headache now and I honestly believe Minions are real and are taking over the world armed with bannanas.
Trump will not only not be impeached but he will be elected by a landslide next election. Ryan may not be re elected.
quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
Dear Jesus, why did I click on this? I have a headache now and I honestly believe Minions are real and are taking over the world armed with bannanas.
[:D][:D]
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
No president has ever been removed from office by impeachment and conviction. Public opinion is not a qualification for impeachment. If public opinion were against Trump he would nver have been elected. If he were to run again today he would be elected by a greater margin. While smoking your next joint, check out the economy and the stock market SERF,
For the December 6 vote, 364 Congressmen voted against the measure and a mere 58 ? all Democrats ? voted in favor. 4 voted present. This is a massive failure.
It ain't over yet the collusion thing didn't work out but the Obstruction of Justice is still possible! Why don't you go take an Anti depressant pill until after the Holidays!
WASHINGTON ? President Donald Trump's personal lawyer took responsibility Sunday for a tweet that Trump sent the previous day, in which the president said for the first time that he knew his former security adviser, Michael Flynn, had lied to the FBI before he fired Flynn in February.
The tweet caused an uproar in Washington because it implied Trump knew Flynn had committed a felony ? lying to the FBI ? when he told then-FBI director James Comey to go easy on Flynn the day after the firing.
Dowd told NBC News that he drafted the tweet and then sent it to White House Social Media Director Dan Scavino to publish. When asked for the original email he sent to Scavino, Dowd said he dictated it orally.
I told you so. It is impossible for a sitting president to obstruct justice by firing the head of any part of government including the FBI.
Constitutionally he can fire him because he doesn't like the color of his eyes. He doesn't even need a reason. I haven't even had a beer for over 35 years. Can you say that SERF. That's one reason I'm not a democrat but even my dog knows better than to be a democrat.
If Trump knew Flynn was guilty of lying to The FBI and ask James Comey to not investigate him any further than he was using his influence to obstruct justice.
I don't care even if his lawyer posted it in his name either! It's a dodge by Trump and his lack of action not to fire his lawyer is just more gas on the fire.
Tweets have already been used in plenty of cases, including against Trump ? particularly in relation to his attempts at issuing travel bans on certain Muslim-majority countries.
Even deleted tweets have been used in court cases. With Twitter, the main challenge is to show that the account belongs to a particular person, according to Alex Whiting, a law professor at Harvard University and a former prosecutor at the International Criminal Court. That's not an issue when it comes to Trump.
You liberal democrats or sanders fans are just desperate to the point that you are laughable. Get over it. Trump is president and he will be for 8 years. After that it might be mike pence. The supreme court will be 3/4 conservative at least for the next 20 years.
"IF Trump knew Flynn was guilty of lying to The FBI and ask James Comey to not investigate him any further than he was using his influence to obstruct justice."
Even then nothing can be done. The president can legally request such by the constitution. The same as Obama got fast and furious off the hook. He just stopped the investigation.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but doesn't the President have to do something wrong in order to warrant being impeached?
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to deny anybody their God given right to hate someone, but somehow I don't think extreme bias would hold up in court ?
If Trump has violated his duties then he deserves his day in court.
BUT, after a year of investigation which has yielded nothing, coupled with this 'FISA' thing, even though I'm doing my best to distance myself from the 'news', I can't help but wonder if one side is trying to cover their crime by accusing the other side of doing the same.
A quote from "Hamlet" comes to mind, "the lady doth protest too much." Which resulted with the revelation that the "lady" was as guilty as Hell by manner of complicity.
One thing for sure "somebody" has either tried, or succeeded, in stealing the country.
Oh what the hell break out the guillotine and let's see where this goes
Oh, one other inconvenient truth should be considered - and that is, according to the ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and explosives) more guns were sold during the eight years of the Obama presidency than in the 200+ years that preceded it.
Honestly I find that hard to believe.
I would hope that influx of sales was for sporting arms (I.e. Duck guns, pheasant guns, deer rifles,,target guns and the like) but I don't think that it was.
I think the reality is a large portion of America is armed to the teeth and stand ready to take on its alleged government.
So let's think for a moment - who is pro gun and who is anti gun.
And I am of the opinion that any attempt to disarm them would result in instantaneous revolution.
Trump, like him or not, controls them - so he is being benevolent and not turning the "rabble" against the opposing team.
Give the thought some serious consideration - one tweet could bring chaos beyond imagination
One should reconsider bringing an "indignant attitude" to a gun fight.
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quote:Originally posted by serf
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
Go stick your head in the sand and breathe deep, serf.
And miss the three-ring circus! You can't stop the tidal wave coming if you tried!
serf
Wish in one hand, poop in the other, and see which one fills up faster. Trump isn't going anywhere.[:X]
that's something we agree on.................
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
quote:Originally posted by serf
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
Go stick your head in the sand and breathe deep, serf.
And miss the three-ring circus! You can't stop the tidal wave coming if you tried!
serf
Wish in one hand, poop in the other, and see which one fills up faster. Trump isn't going anywhere.[:X]
that's something we agree on.................
Neither Did Bill Clinton who never had sex with Monica Lewinsky! What a joke politics has become!
serf
Generally, obstruction charges are laid when it is discovered that a person questioned in an investigation, other than a suspect, has lied to the investigating officer.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/07/politics/james-comey-testimony-released/index.html
New Years resolutions...
Ros
The national inquirer has more credibility than the NYT.
quote:Originally posted by SCOUT5
They will vote to impeach or they will vote on if to impeach? Big difference you know.
I think you are trying to distinguish between impeachment, and removal.
So that would depend upon which of the three paths eventually join, and how.
Removal would be up to the senate.
The Democrats recently entertained introducing impeachment articles based on the President's statements about Korea. That ought to tell everyone just what their play is on impeachment. And the NY Times had a pretty good overview of the matter:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/12/us/politics/impeachment-trump-green-sherman.html
Since losing the election the Democrats have done a version of spitting on food - spoiling it so no one will want any, except they do it now as a warning to future Republican candidates for the office.
Dow futures up over 200 and all they can think of is how to keep their voter base on the their DEMOCRAT PLANTATION(s).
There won't even be a vote to impeach. Ryan would never let anything that stupid go to the floor. Liberal dreams that's all it is. It takes 50% of the house to impeach. There are 57 more republicans than democrat. Good luck on those odds. Dream on stupid. Smoke a few more joints.
You seriously underestimate Ryan?s ability to justify betrayal in pursuit of increasing his own political power.
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
There won't even be a vote to impeach. Ryan would never let anything that stupid go to the floor. Liberal dreams that's all it is. It takes 50% of the house to impeach. There are 57 more republicans than democrat. Good luck on those odds. Dream on stupid. Smoke a few more joints.
You seriously underestimate Ryan?s ability to justify betrayal in pursuit of increasing his own political power.
Well Public opinion could have a say here, you think? President Trump better start thinking about that very soon.
And Midterm elections could change the equation of Rebulicans in the House real fast if the economy sours.
serf
Dear Jesus, why did I click on this? I have a headache now and I honestly believe Minions are real and are taking over the world armed with bannanas.
Trump will not only not be impeached but he will be elected by a landslide next election. Ryan may not be re elected.
Dear Jesus, why did I click on this? I have a headache now and I honestly believe Minions are real and are taking over the world armed with bannanas.
[:D][:D]
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
https://breaking.americanewshub.com/2017/12/06/breaking-house-just-voted-impeaching-trump-went-even-worse-imagine/?utm_source=abw&utm_medium=facebook
DREAM ON. SMOKE ANOTHER JOINT.
Here you go SERF. I told you so. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/06/us-rep-al-green-plans-trump-impeachment-resolution.html
DREAM ON. SMOKE ANOTHER JOINT.
It ain't over yet the collusion thing didn't work out but the Obstruction of Justice is still possible! Why don't you go take an Anti depressant pill until after the Holidays!
serf
Failures, that is.
Batting 1000 on predictions, serf.
Failures, that is.
Well he sure acts guilty when his lawyer takes the fall on His tweets!
We will never know who tweeted what will we? Too convenient with whites lies for me. That's what lawyers do for their clients to get them off.
serf
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-s-lawyer-claims-responsibility-trump-s-problematic-tweet-n826036
WASHINGTON ? President Donald Trump's personal lawyer took responsibility Sunday for a tweet that Trump sent the previous day, in which the president said for the first time that he knew his former security adviser, Michael Flynn, had lied to the FBI before he fired Flynn in February.
The tweet caused an uproar in Washington because it implied Trump knew Flynn had committed a felony ? lying to the FBI ? when he told then-FBI director James Comey to go easy on Flynn the day after the firing.
Dowd told NBC News that he drafted the tweet and then sent it to White House Social Media Director Dan Scavino to publish. When asked for the original email he sent to Scavino, Dowd said he dictated it orally.
Constitutionally he can fire him because he doesn't like the color of his eyes. He doesn't even need a reason. I haven't even had a beer for over 35 years. Can you say that SERF. That's one reason I'm not a democrat but even my dog knows better than to be a democrat.
I don't care even if his lawyer posted it in his name either! It's a dodge by Trump and his lack of action not to fire his lawyer is just more gas on the fire.
serf
http://mashable.com/2017/12/04/donald-trump-flynn-tweet-obstruction-legal-analysis/#lwccBH.DdPqg
Can tweets be used in legal proceedings?
The answer here is a clear yes.
Tweets have already been used in plenty of cases, including against Trump ? particularly in relation to his attempts at issuing travel bans on certain Muslim-majority countries.
Even deleted tweets have been used in court cases. With Twitter, the main challenge is to show that the account belongs to a particular person, according to Alex Whiting, a law professor at Harvard University and a former prosecutor at the International Criminal Court. That's not an issue when it comes to Trump.
"IF Trump knew Flynn was guilty of lying to The FBI and ask James Comey to not investigate him any further than he was using his influence to obstruct justice."
Even then nothing can be done. The president can legally request such by the constitution. The same as Obama got fast and furious off the hook. He just stopped the investigation.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but doesn't the President have to do something wrong in order to warrant being impeached?
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to deny anybody their God given right to hate someone, but somehow I don't think extreme bias would hold up in court ?
If Trump has violated his duties then he deserves his day in court.
BUT, after a year of investigation which has yielded nothing, coupled with this 'FISA' thing, even though I'm doing my best to distance myself from the 'news', I can't help but wonder if one side is trying to cover their crime by accusing the other side of doing the same.
A quote from "Hamlet" comes to mind, "the lady doth protest too much." Which resulted with the revelation that the "lady" was as guilty as Hell by manner of complicity.
One thing for sure "somebody" has either tried, or succeeded, in stealing the country.
Oh what the hell break out the guillotine and let's see where this goes
Honestly I find that hard to believe.
I would hope that influx of sales was for sporting arms (I.e. Duck guns, pheasant guns, deer rifles,,target guns and the like) but I don't think that it was.
I think the reality is a large portion of America is armed to the teeth and stand ready to take on its alleged government.
So let's think for a moment - who is pro gun and who is anti gun.
And I am of the opinion that any attempt to disarm them would result in instantaneous revolution.
Trump, like him or not, controls them - so he is being benevolent and not turning the "rabble" against the opposing team.
Give the thought some serious consideration - one tweet could bring chaos beyond imagination
One should reconsider bringing an "indignant attitude" to a gun fight.
...
I'm as horrified at the thought as you are.