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Most of what comes to America today are barbarians..people here to rape and pillage.
Of course, most of what LIVES here lives to pillage...
just to reiterate, you couldn't be more right on this. i hear it from some russians here and there all the time: "america is great, great country to milk". and i am quoting. even my semi-liberal girlfriend is outraged. like i said, it's a matter of time, i just hope i don't get confused with that bunch and get swiped by the wave when it comes.
well, enough with all this rhetoric for now gun cleaning time.
Roosevelt's speech on immigrants - 1907:
Every American citizen needs to read this!
The year is now 2007.....and we need to revisit what was said 100 years ago.
The year is 1907.....but the speaker knew what he was talking about.
Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907.
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." --- Theodore Roosevelt 1907
MY RANT:
There is nothing wrong with being proud of your roots or your religion. I think most people are smart enough to look at someone and determine, with some level of competence, a basic ethnic background. What is inside is harder to determine. Like it or not, that conclusion is drawn as a direct result of your words and actions. I can only assume that those who refer to themselves as African-American, Mexican-American, Cuba-Americans. Italian-Americans, Muslim-Americans, Arab-American, (American born but still) Puerto-Rican, Jewish-American or Jewish (Not in reference to religion but more as a race), Asian or Asian American........ Just have not assimilated into American Society and DO HARBOR a divided Allegiance or in some cases Just Seek Victim Status for something we TODAY had no part of. None the less, whatever their reason, any discrimination or profiling they perceive, real or fabricated, is probably a direct result of their own failure to act as "Nothing but an American".
Federal Textbook on Citizenship Training, Part III: Our Nation, Prepared by Lillian P. Clark (Washington: U.S. Government Printing Office, U.S. Dept of Labor, 1931), p. 236.
Federal Textbook on Citizenship Training, Part III: Our Nation, Prepared by Lillian P. Clark (Washington: U.S. Government Printing Office, U.S. Dept of Labor, 1931), p. 236.
yeah, i know thanks though. what i said was meant to relate to what you said in your rant. there's great paper on dual allegiance: http://www.cis.org/articles/2005/back1205.html which basically says, that immigrants aren't integrating anymore, they become US citizens, but they aren't Americans, they don't value the citizenship.
Vindicating the Founders, Thomas West
An online resource for the book: http://www.vindicatingthefounders.com/ OR;
It is also available at Amazon.com in paperback and hardcover.
A very good read.
Quote-"Too many people post for a few months and then disappear. Such is human nature for many, I suppose."
Quote-"MANY MANY members do not post any more... I sure hope they are all OK..."
If it makes any difference, I am here just invisible somewhat, as I read more than I post, which might be what other members may be doing as well...
Are you trying to say that our government is commiting suicide and trying to self destruct, or are we just plain lazy and don't care about society ?
I have been reading this post with great interest.
nyforester, you must first understand that the entire economic and political system is designed for an outcome very different than what you have been taught to accept.
We have deficits and war because the system is designed to give us deficits and war. Public education in this country is not a horrible failure, but rather it is a triumph of social engineering, as it has delivered an increasingly deviant population that has been conditioned to accept what they are told every day. We will have a total dollar collapse and perhaps the final destruction of liberty in this land because that is what the global elites intend for this nation. The plans have been in place since 1913 (Highball would say the Civil War) - we are only witnessing an outcome that has been attended to with extraordinary patience.
Look, our government is simply managing the process. They are not the true power. They are silly, empty, soulless men and woman who are simply pimps and prostitutes to the true power elite. To work WITH them is to admit that the system they endorse has some redeeming qualities. It does not.
Let me attempt an analogy. Imagine you go into a casino. You amble up to a slot machine and lose 4 tries in a row. Angry, you go to another slot machine. You win twice in a row and regain a portion of your losses. You love that lifeless slot machine, and you may even remember the number of that one-armed bandit so that you can return to it on your next trip to the casino. But ask yourself, was either outcome under the slot machine's control? You see nyforester, regardless of your fortunes, the casino hasn't changed. The casino didn't become more generous, and you didn't become a better gambler. Rather, the casino was designed to take your money. You may have enjoyed a streak of short-term luck, but in the long term that casino will destroy your wealth.
Our political process is no different. The talking heads you see on the news are only the public face of the real owners - those who are running the casino. Do you understand the difference?
It took me awhile to get here - and I am grateful for the tremendous thinkers both current and historical that turned the light on.
So to finally answer your question - the government is NOT trying to self-destruct. The silly little men and woman you see are not really running the show. They are simply prostitutes and pimps delivering evil and sickness to the masses that is being created by the layer of power that you don't readily see.
And they must destroy the free men and woman of this country to get what they want. So what do they want? Very simple, power. Everything that the power elite stands for is an anathema to a free man and woman.
Why? Take it one step deeper. Your rights come from God. The god of this world hates free men and will always work to subject freedom to the sick and perverse ideology of the god of this world.
Although I will not imbibe this with spiritual truths, you may find some clarity to what I am saying in Matthew 4:8-10.
For those who don't know what I meant by that, I will add this.
The true power brokers of the world must see freedom die. They are hungry ghosts who only desire and crave more power. A robust, free, happy, moral people are and will always be in direct opposition of the power-mad and evil men who direct the affairs of nations.
Why do you think that Castro, Mao, Chavez, Stalin, and all those like them are so admired by elites? Because they had total control over the fate of their nation. Death, destruction, and all the evil they could heap upon their people only proved as a witness to their power. Those in charge - the men behind the curtains - reveal in this madness. It is the ultimate drug. The ultimate aphrodisiac. The ultimate statement of worth to the accursed and the soulless little people who are directing the world around you.
I made a decision about 4 years ago to step out of this system. To participate in it would be to acknowledge it, empower it, and bow down to it. All of those outcomes will only serve to taint my own soul.
nyforester - there is a deep, dark, madness behind this all. Get the heck out of the casino - stop squandering your own resources and energy on it - it can lead you nowhere.
I expect 99% of the readers will think my thoughts are absurd at best and overzealous and foolish at worst. So be it. I am, however, grateful that this forum does exist to discuss these issues.
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Flat8;
I request permission to re-post this over on general.
Simply brilliant.
Thank you sir. Post away. I am curious how they will respond over there. I posted it in this forum as well, I really thought it would get lost in this thread and I was wondering what the response would be.
"We have deficits and war because the system is designed to give us deficits and war. Public education in this country is not a horrible failure, but rather it is a triumph of social engineering, as it has delivered an increasingly deviant population that has been conditioned to accept what they are told every day." FLAT
Flat:
I work in education and will do you one better, its not deviants we produce (They are a creatation of too much information and the media outlets, and parents) we produce robots that are programmed to work steadfastly and efficiently to manipulate information and create new technologies for business owners. Education has been reduced to rote memorization and processing skill development to fit our economic system (Note I didn't say industrial, because industry barely exists in this country anymore). The system is designed to educate everyone to obtain a B.S degree in a field that gives all students the opprotunity to earn the same avg wage and to help the top 1% build enough wealth to control our nations economics. Their problem is that the American dream and entepreneurship is still alive in many kids and they find ways to cirumvent this desired path. We as a country have forgot that the world needs people who can turn wrenches and weld, and men who can engineer new things without the benefit of a college degree.
On another note as long as I am ranting about my profession. Teachers don't brainwash our kids, hell most are brain washed themselves because they were the first to come out of this system.
Most don't know enough about their subject matter to teach socratic method of discovery to stir debate in children. They teach what the text book says because the legislatures of our country approved the teachings in that book. lcoal control of education is alost ideal, state and federal (unfunded mandates) have made our kids nothing more then good accountability test takers that couldn't think their way out of a complex problem without their tutor next to them. Blame your legislatures and universities for not pushing more critical thinking skills, not the sheep that teach the children, they are just a product of the system.
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Most of what comes to America today are barbarians..people here to rape and pillage.
Of course, most of what LIVES here lives to pillage...
just to reiterate, you couldn't be more right on this. i hear it from some russians here and there all the time: "america is great, great country to milk". and i am quoting. even my semi-liberal girlfriend is outraged. like i said, it's a matter of time, i just hope i don't get confused with that bunch and get swiped by the wave when it comes.
well, enough with all this rhetoric for now
Most of what comes to America today are barbarians..people here to rape and pillage.
Of course, most of what LIVES here lives to pillage...
here you go, Highball, just to reiterate once more:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=55531
mind, it's a gunners forum on rights and 2A.
Every American citizen needs to read this!
The year is now 2007.....and we need to revisit what was said 100 years ago.
The year is 1907.....but the speaker knew what he was talking about.
Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907.
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." --- Theodore Roosevelt 1907
MY RANT:
There is nothing wrong with being proud of your roots or your religion. I think most people are smart enough to look at someone and determine, with some level of competence, a basic ethnic background. What is inside is harder to determine. Like it or not, that conclusion is drawn as a direct result of your words and actions. I can only assume that those who refer to themselves as African-American, Mexican-American, Cuba-Americans. Italian-Americans, Muslim-Americans, Arab-American, (American born but still) Puerto-Rican, Jewish-American or Jewish (Not in reference to religion but more as a race), Asian or Asian American........ Just have not assimilated into American Society and DO HARBOR a divided Allegiance or in some cases Just Seek Victim Status for something we TODAY had no part of. None the less, whatever their reason, any discrimination or profiling they perceive, real or fabricated, is probably a direct result of their own failure to act as "Nothing but an American".
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i can't agree with you more. you must've read the dual allegiance paper?
Actually that quote can be found in:
Federal Textbook on Citizenship Training, Part III: Our Nation, Prepared by Lillian P. Clark (Washington: U.S. Government Printing Office, U.S. Dept of Labor, 1931), p. 236.
sneaky:
Actually that quote can be found in:
Federal Textbook on Citizenship Training, Part III: Our Nation, Prepared by Lillian P. Clark (Washington: U.S. Government Printing Office, U.S. Dept of Labor, 1931), p. 236.
yeah, i know
As well as;
Center for Immigration Studies Panel Discussion Transcript on Dual Allegiance and the Politics of Immigration Reform
http://www.cis.org/articles/2005/back1205transcript.html
Vindicating the Founders, Thomas West
An online resource for the book:
http://www.vindicatingthefounders.com/ OR;
It is also available at Amazon.com in paperback and hardcover.
A very good read.
thanks, i'll definitely will check out the latter book, will put that on my reading list
I've been reading a lot of old posts, and I am very sad to report that MANY MANY members do not post any more... I sure hope they are all OK...
RIP,
R. Perkins
I am new here, but I like what I read.
Hey Highball, see you at the "BIG" Gun Show.
Quote-"MANY MANY members do not post any more... I sure hope they are all OK..."
If it makes any difference, I am here just invisible somewhat, as I read more than I post, which might be what other members may be doing as well...
I just don't open my mouth as much![;)]
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Are you trying to say that our government is commiting suicide and trying to self destruct, or are we just plain lazy and don't care about society ?
I have been reading this post with great interest.
nyforester, you must first understand that the entire economic and political system is designed for an outcome very different than what you have been taught to accept.
We have deficits and war because the system is designed to give us deficits and war. Public education in this country is not a horrible failure, but rather it is a triumph of social engineering, as it has delivered an increasingly deviant population that has been conditioned to accept what they are told every day. We will have a total dollar collapse and perhaps the final destruction of liberty in this land because that is what the global elites intend for this nation. The plans have been in place since 1913 (Highball would say the Civil War) - we are only witnessing an outcome that has been attended to with extraordinary patience.
Look, our government is simply managing the process. They are not the true power. They are silly, empty, soulless men and woman who are simply pimps and prostitutes to the true power elite. To work WITH them is to admit that the system they endorse has some redeeming qualities. It does not.
Let me attempt an analogy. Imagine you go into a casino. You amble up to a slot machine and lose 4 tries in a row. Angry, you go to another slot machine. You win twice in a row and regain a portion of your losses. You love that lifeless slot machine, and you may even remember the number of that one-armed bandit so that you can return to it on your next trip to the casino. But ask yourself, was either outcome under the slot machine's control? You see nyforester, regardless of your fortunes, the casino hasn't changed. The casino didn't become more generous, and you didn't become a better gambler. Rather, the casino was designed to take your money. You may have enjoyed a streak of short-term luck, but in the long term that casino will destroy your wealth.
Our political process is no different. The talking heads you see on the news are only the public face of the real owners - those who are running the casino. Do you understand the difference?
It took me awhile to get here - and I am grateful for the tremendous thinkers both current and historical that turned the light on.
So to finally answer your question - the government is NOT trying to self-destruct. The silly little men and woman you see are not really running the show. They are simply prostitutes and pimps delivering evil and sickness to the masses that is being created by the layer of power that you don't readily see.
And they must destroy the free men and woman of this country to get what they want. So what do they want? Very simple, power. Everything that the power elite stands for is an anathema to a free man and woman.
Why? Take it one step deeper. Your rights come from God. The god of this world hates free men and will always work to subject freedom to the sick and perverse ideology of the god of this world.
Although I will not imbibe this with spiritual truths, you may find some clarity to what I am saying in Matthew 4:8-10.
For those who don't know what I meant by that, I will add this.
The true power brokers of the world must see freedom die. They are hungry ghosts who only desire and crave more power. A robust, free, happy, moral people are and will always be in direct opposition of the power-mad and evil men who direct the affairs of nations.
Why do you think that Castro, Mao, Chavez, Stalin, and all those like them are so admired by elites? Because they had total control over the fate of their nation. Death, destruction, and all the evil they could heap upon their people only proved as a witness to their power. Those in charge - the men behind the curtains - reveal in this madness. It is the ultimate drug. The ultimate aphrodisiac. The ultimate statement of worth to the accursed and the soulless little people who are directing the world around you.
I made a decision about 4 years ago to step out of this system. To participate in it would be to acknowledge it, empower it, and bow down to it. All of those outcomes will only serve to taint my own soul.
nyforester - there is a deep, dark, madness behind this all. Get the heck out of the casino - stop squandering your own resources and energy on it - it can lead you nowhere.
I expect 99% of the readers will think my thoughts are absurd at best and overzealous and foolish at worst. So be it. I am, however, grateful that this forum does exist to discuss these issues.
I request permission to re-post this over on general.
Simply brilliant.
Flat8;
I request permission to re-post this over on general.
Simply brilliant.
Thank you sir. Post away. I am curious how they will respond over there. I posted it in this forum as well, I really thought it would get lost in this thread and I was wondering what the response would be.
Flat8;
I request permission to re-post this over on general.
Simply brilliant.
Didn't take long for that post to slip off to page 2![;)]
Flat:
I work in education and will do you one better, its not deviants we produce (They are a creatation of too much information and the media outlets, and parents) we produce robots that are programmed to work steadfastly and efficiently to manipulate information and create new technologies for business owners. Education has been reduced to rote memorization and processing skill development to fit our economic system (Note I didn't say industrial, because industry barely exists in this country anymore). The system is designed to educate everyone to obtain a B.S degree in a field that gives all students the opprotunity to earn the same avg wage and to help the top 1% build enough wealth to control our nations economics. Their problem is that the American dream and entepreneurship is still alive in many kids and they find ways to cirumvent this desired path. We as a country have forgot that the world needs people who can turn wrenches and weld, and men who can engineer new things without the benefit of a college degree.
On another note as long as I am ranting about my profession. Teachers don't brainwash our kids, hell most are brain washed themselves because they were the first to come out of this system.
Most don't know enough about their subject matter to teach socratic method of discovery to stir debate in children. They teach what the text book says because the legislatures of our country approved the teachings in that book. lcoal control of education is alost ideal, state and federal (unfunded mandates) have made our kids nothing more then good accountability test takers that couldn't think their way out of a complex problem without their tutor next to them. Blame your legislatures and universities for not pushing more critical thinking skills, not the sheep that teach the children, they are just a product of the system.