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quote:Originally posted by RTKBA
Okay I am a little new here and if it doesn't bother anyone, could someone explain what is The Order of the Brethren of the CA. Thanks
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quote:Originally posted by RTKBA
Okay I am a little new here and if it doesn't bother anyone, could someone explain what is The Order of the Brethren of the CA. Thanks
Welcome to the boards;
to put very simply they are a pro Constitutional group of individuals devoted to the Constitution and the Republic without compromise as most of us here are.
However there are also some very misguided individuals here unfortunately as well, that are not Constitutionalists but apparently believe that they are and make that obvious by their support of organizations like the nra for example and individuals like george 'I got my oil rights' bush and believing that the gov-beast is really their friend.
These misguided individuals also believe that if we would just compromise away our rights over to the gov-beast and trust them then everything can be 'worked out' and that our Constitutional Rights are privileges and that the Second Amendment is for hunting and subject to the interpretation of the gov-beast and the 9th circus and other nonsense.
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
(sigh) losing interest in these commies, I tell ya.
Geez, you weren't kidding, there are alot of egotisticals on here especially in the ATE where I refined some posts being there is no point arguing with such types and there are much better answers elsewhere without all the bs nonsense from such asinine individuals.
I have long suspected the same thing and in reality would guess that there is alot more to the name off forum and is probably just a shield. From what I understand the CA name derived partially from trouble making little trolls which abound here unfortunately and who attempted to use it against the CA's before their name was established as an insult.
I believe from that point that the CA name was then sort of 'reverse engineered' as it were against the enemy and has been used ever since, at least that is how it seemed during that time anyway.
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf(sigh)losing interest in these commies, I tell ya.quote:Originally posted by StoBtruppenGeez, you weren't kidding, there are alot of egotisticals on here especially in the ATE where I refined some posts being there is no point arguing with such types and there are much better answers elsewhere without all the bs nonsense from such asinine individuals.
Do any of you use 'Ask the Attitudes' I mean Experts[rolleyes]?, as I don't see many of you posting over there and now I know why...seems to always be the same little group of trolls on there; however there are a select few that are actually helpful minus the smart-* attitude.
Jpwolf, is there another website where HighBall and the CA's hangout and perhaps for other True Patriots as well, however if outsiders are not welcome I would understand, as you were spot-on with your comment?
quote:Originally posted by StoBtruppen
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf(sigh)losing interest in these commies, I tell ya.quote:Originally posted by StoBtruppenGeez, you weren't kidding, there are alot of egotisticals on here especially in the ATE where I refined some posts being there is no point arguing with such types and there are much better answers elsewhere without all the bs nonsense from such asinine individuals.
Do any of you use 'Ask the Attitudes' I mean Experts[rolleyes]?, as I don't see many of you posting over there and now I know why...seems to always be the same little group of trolls on there; however there are a select few that are actually helpful minus the smart-* attitude.
Jpwolf, is there another website where HighBall and the CA's hangout and perhaps for other True Patriots as well, however if outsiders are not welcome I would understand, as you were spot-on with your comment?
I have used the ATE forum about a dozen times in the 7-8 years I've been here, usually they helped with what I needed.
Unfortunately, at this point in time, HB does not post anywhere else. If he does, it is something I am not aware of. I really miss him. Every time I would reach a point where i just didn'y give a crap about thes neo-cons useless twits, he would post somethng, I would read it, and I would get fired up again.
I do not post anywhere else either. Where would one find the time?
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by StoBtruppen
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf(sigh)losing interest in these commies, I tell ya.quote:Originally posted by StoBtruppenGeez, you weren't kidding, there are alot of egotisticals on here especially in the ATE where I refined some posts being there is no point arguing with such types and there are much better answers elsewhere without all the bs nonsense from such asinine individuals.
Do any of you use 'Ask the Attitudes' I mean Experts[rolleyes]?, as I don't see many of you posting over there and now I know why...seems to always be the same little group of trolls on there; however there are a select few that are actually helpful minus the smart-* attitude.
Jpwolf, is there another website where HighBall and the CA's hangout and perhaps for other True Patriots as well, however if outsiders are not welcome I would understand, as you were spot-on with your comment?
I have used the ATE forum about a dozen times in the 7-8 years I've been here, usually they helped with what I needed.
Unfortunately, at this point in time, HB does not post anywhere else. If he does, it is something I am not aware of. I really miss him. Every time I would reach a point where i just didn'y give a crap about thes neo-cons useless twits, he would post somethng, I would read it, and I would get fired up again.
I do not post anywhere else either. Where would one find the time?
I hear you and that says volumes in and of itself; I too get some useful information from the ATE once in a while from a few good folks there, but unfortunately most of it is opinionated smart-* nonsense.
Yeah, HB is a good guy and his posts were always an interesting and informative read and he was just good company. I witnessed alot of the liberal vs. Patriot skirmishes that normally took place on this board where HB and the CA's were involved in and was involved in several as well.
Yes, time is of the essence and I too find it difficult to post both over here and on the other site, but it hasn't been too bad and will progress over time I would imagine.
Well like I said before, you guys and any other True Constitutionalists are always welcome in our country.
Regards
quote:[Name deleted] set us up a website once before anyway, and it never took off.
It's easy to figure out why that is. Fruitcake tastes yummy, when enjoyed with some Ritz crackers, Chex Mix and egg nog. But fruitcake all by itself is too much fruitcake -- it gets to be too much in a hurry. So while a little fruitcake is a good thing, having nothing but fruitcakes just won't work.
The race is long. That's one of my favorite axioms in life.
If you can't manage yourself well enough to stay in the game where you can change minds, you're not making a difference, you're just making noise.
Few if any minds have been changed by the handful of radicals here who are quick to jump on the chest of every person who doesn't follow their beliefs/methods lockstep. And they'll say: Who cares, I'm not here to change minds. Ok then, you're just talking to hear yourself talk.
I've thought about it a lot as I've taken a few months away from this forum during a busy time. The conclusion I came to is that "their" perception of themselves is vastly different from the one they portray to others -- and that they take pride in that. The perception others have of them is that they simply lack self-control and self-discipline, because the rest of us know that it isn't enough to just know that this country is slipping toward anti-constitutional socialism. The others know that the goal is to win the game and you can't win the game if you run off 2/3 of the players who would be on your team but for a few differences of degree.
quote:Originally posted by Wyatt Earp
The race is long. That's one of my favorite axioms in life.
Collectivism inevitably leads to totalitarianism, is a favorite axiom of mine.
If you can't manage yourself well enough to stay in the game where you can change minds, you're not making a difference, you're just making noise.
Meaningless blather, as it is applied here.
Few if any minds have been changed by the handful of radicals here who are quick to jump on the chest of every person who doesn't follow their beliefs/methods lockstep.
Do you have any empirical or other data to support this statement, or are you merely applying your flawed personal opinion????
None of those you are attempting to marginalize are in lock-step. We differ in certain areas. Where we come together, is in out ability to read the Constitution and discern its simple framework to restrain government and to establish a system of Republicanism, e.g. The Republic.
Those you attempt to marginalize also correctly apply the ethic and ideals of Individualism to this Republic and the Constitution, as did the founders in their drafting of it and their understandings and intent.
You and your ilk, well....you do not.
I see a bunch of collectivist-weasels, gnawing away at the foundation of the Republic and of individual liberty itself, whether they are from the left, center or right.
And they'll say: Who cares, I'm not here to change minds. Ok then, you're just talking to hear yourself talk.
Another strawman.
For me, I do what I do for a purpose and that purpose makes those like you angry or uncomfortable, I suspect it is due to the bright light it shines on your advocated beliefs and how they do not line up with liberty and the principles of the Republic.
That is all.
I've thought about it a lot as I've taken a few months away from this forum during a busy time. The conclusion I came to is that "their" perception of themselves is vastly different from the one they portray to others -- and that they take pride in that.
We all perceive things through the filter of our beliefs, ethic and desires.
Those who seem driven to attempt rebuttal of the underlying principles that many of us attempt to illustrate, well, we come back to that personal 'perception', anger or disdain that you likely feel.
I long ago dubbed your type as 'liberty-schitters', ones who crap on the mention or discussion of liberty and those who advocate it.
I submit that it is likely because in the areas of Liberty and the proper role of government, you come up lacking in your own eyes.
I know your certainly do in my eyes, severely.
The perception others have of them is that they simply lack self-control and self-discipline, because the rest of us know that it isn't enough to just know that this country is slipping toward anti-constitutional socialism.
Do you read the crap you write before you hit 'post new reply'.....[:D]
You are 'projecting' YOUR perceptions, angers and flawed views onto these mysterious 'others' and attempting to bolster YOUR projection by trying to align yourself with some made-up 'rest of us' who 'know' the real deal...
What a clown.
The others know that the goal is to win the game and you can't win the game if you run off 2/3 of the players who would be on your team but for a few differences of degree.
I see you are still running with 'the others' who know...[:)]
You don't seem able to grasp that YOU and your 'others' are not wanted on the side of liberty, because to have you there would merely dilute and eventually make a sick-parody of what it is, much like the sick-parody that those like you have driven the Republic to be.
YOU and 'the others' are what I use as an example of that which is destroying the Republic.
You are naught but a chalkboard and every post of this type that you and your ilk make, allows me or another constitutionalist and liberty-advocate to contrast your soothing-hissings with founding principles and allows the diametric opposition to be shown.
quote:Collectivism inevitably leads to totalitarianism, is a favorite axiom of mine.
Really? I've never seen you type the word collectivism before. [:D]
quote:Do you have any empirical or other data to support this statement, or are you merely applying your flawed personal opinion????
It's just my flawed personal opinion. And that's what separates you guys from the real world -- the rest of us know we're flawed beings. Actually, we know you're flawed too, it's just that you don't know it yet.
quote:None of those you are attempting to marginalize are in lock-step. We differ in certain areas. Where we come together, is in out ability to read the Constitution and discern its simple framework to restrain government and to establish a system of Republicanism, e.g. The Republic.
I have not marginalized them, they've done it to themselves by deluding themselves into equating extremism with righteousness. It's the same malady that afflicts Fred Phelps. Exactly the same.
quote:I see a bunch of collectivist-weasels, gnawing away at the foundation of the Republic and of individual liberty itself, whether they are from the left, center or right.
And you're hunting down the weasels with a fishingpole. You have, for the most part, identified the correct prey, you're just going about the hunt all wrong.
quote:For me, I do what I do for a purpose and that purpose makes those like you angry or uncomfortable, I suspect it is due to the bright light it shines on your advocated beliefs and how they do not line up with liberty and the principles of the Republic.
No, I'm a getter-doner. I don't find any honor in using tactics that don't work and then complaining about the lack of results. I want results, and you don't get results by demanding perfection from imperfect people.
quote:I long ago dubbed your type as 'liberty-schitters', ones who crap on the mention or discussion of liberty and those who advocate it.
Fair enough. Tell us how it's working for you? Are you making progress toward your goal, or are you merely informing people how you feel? When you guys tire of stroking each other and want to actually get something done, you'll wise up to what those around you already know. I'm a patient man and I'll wait for you to catch up because I think you can do it eventually...
quote:I submit that it is likely because in the areas of Liberty and the proper role of government, you come up lacking in your own eyes.
Nope. Save for a few issues I'm a Libertarian. I want just enough government to enforce contracts and keep us from killing each other, then get the hell out of the way. I'm the guy constantly complaining about marble courthouses, intricate bridge artwork, elaborate tile at the New Orleans Airport, etc. I'm for school buildings and other taxpayer-purchased buildings being nondescript and functional but no more.
quote:Do you read the crap you write before you hit 'post new reply'.....[:D]
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Sometimes partially. [:D] Sometimes I just like to wind up the mouse to watch it zip around the floor bumping into stuff.
quote:You are 'projecting' YOUR perceptions, angers and flawed views onto these mysterious 'others' and attempting to bolster YOUR projection by trying to align yourself with some made-up 'rest of us' who 'know' the real deal...
The "rest of us" are at least smart enough to stay unbanned. Ol' Highball is sure advancing the cause from his position of silence on GB, huh?
quote:You don't seem able to grasp that YOU and your 'others' are not wanted on the side of liberty, because to have you there would merely dilute and eventually make a sick-parody of what it is, much like the sick-parody that those like you have driven the Republic to be.
Well, thankfully you're only in charge of the tiny little microscopic clique of like-minded radicals who wouldn't know how to advance their cause to save their rears.
quote:YOU and 'the others' are what I use as an example of that which is destroying the Republic.
Ok. And you have, what, 8 people out of thousands here who agree with you? Good luck with that.
quote:You are naught but a chalkboard and every post of this type that you and your ilk make, allows me or another constitutionalist and liberty-advocate to contrast your soothing-hissings with founding principles and allows the diametric opposition to be shown.
Whew! That was profound. [:D] Still, you're wrong. Radically wrong, but wrong nonetheless.
"We are not perfect, so demanding perfection from us is a not possible"?
That bout sum it up, jellyfish?
I look to history, and since it is established that we once had a republic, I can see no justifiable (that's where we nail you spineless pus-sies) reason why we can't have it again.
Guess those founders were just more perfecter[;)] than we are? After all, they achieved what you claim is impossible.
Those who make excuses of any kind, (yours is not a new one btw) not to re-claim what has been lost, are simply cowards, lazy, or both.
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
"We are not perfect, so demanding perfection from us is a not possible"?
That bout sum it up, jellyfish?
I look to history, and since it is established that we once had a republic, I can see no justifiable (that's where we nail you spineless pus-sies) reason why we can't have it again.
I believe circumventing the profanity filter is a violation of TOS. Perhaps you should join HB.
I'd be annoyed with you wannabe-Tim McVeighs if I thought you had enough sense to light a match without setting your Depends on fire. Actually, you're just kind of pathetic.
Rest assured, your opinions don't count. They're as meaningless as they are goofy. Anyone with an IQ larger than their inseam knows this. So please, stop trying to appoint yourselves as keeper of the Constitution. You're not qualified. You probably have great difficulty managing your personal lives, and you come on here and laughably propose to pick and choose who does and does not deserve the protection of the BOR and the Constitution??? Dream on, boy.
You radicals are little more than bullies trying to intimidate people into silence. That might work on the Crossword Puzzle Forum where you also frequent, but this is a gun forum and members aren't gonna take your faux bluster.
quote:Originally posted by Wyatt Earp
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
"We are not perfect, so demanding perfection from us is a not possible"?
That bout sum it up, jellyfish?
I look to history, and since it is established that we once had a republic, I can see no justifiable (that's where we nail you spineless pus-sies) reason why we can't have it again.
I believe circumventing the profanity filter is a violation of TOS. Perhaps you should join HB.
I'd be annoyed with you wannabe-Tim McVeighs if I thought you had enough sense to light a match without setting your Depends on fire. Actually, you're just kind of pathetic.
Rest assured, your opinions don't count. They're as meaningless as they are goofy. Anyone with an IQ larger than their inseam knows this. So please, stop trying to appoint yourselves as keeper of the Constitution. You're not qualified. You probably have great difficulty managing your personal lives, and you come on here and laughably propose to pick and choose who does and does not deserve the protection of the BOR and the Constitution??? Dream on, boy.
You radicals are little more than bullies trying to intimidate people into silence. That might work on the Crossword Puzzle Forum where you also frequent, but this is a gun forum and members aren't gonna take your faux bluster.
Take a hike.
Couldn't get through the whole post. But apparently, the hammer landed squarely on the head of the nail tack. You sound a wee bit upset. Bummer. Go read the Constitution, and Declaration of Independence, let your nads drop, then come back.
quote:Couldn't get through the whole post. But apparently, the hammer landed squarely on the head of the nail tack. You sound a wee bit upset. Bummer. Go read the Constitution, and Declaration of Independence, let your nads drop, then come back.
While I'm flattered by your interest in my nads, I guess, I really don't roll that way.
quote:Couldn't get through the whole post. But apparently, the hammer landed squarely on the head of the nail tack. You sound a wee bit upset. Bummer. Go read the Constitution, and Declaration of Independence, let your nads drop, then come back.
While I'm flattered by your interest in my nads, I guess, I really don't roll that way.
Thanks for the offer though.
Odd that you saw an "offer" of some sort in what was clearly a "suggestion". Since you are "rolling" anyway, perhaps spread out some flour on the floor and see if you can locate the wet spot? (Just in case you get confused again, this was ALSO what is known as a "suggestion".)
quote:perhaps spread out some flour on the floor and see if you can locate the wet spot?
Are you some kind of sexual deviant? Why the infatuation with me sexually? You're starting to creep me out a little. Look, I don't know if Bubba converted you to AC/DC while you were in prison on that indecency with a child rap, or if you're just naturally fruity, but I must decline your offers yet again.
Perhaps the Constitution is simply over your head. Hey I know, why don't you go help NAMBLA tidy up their corporate charter?
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Okay I am a little new here and if it doesn't bother anyone, could someone explain what is The Order of the Brethren of the CA. Thanks
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http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=334887&SearchTerms=canary,*
Okay I am a little new here and if it doesn't bother anyone, could someone explain what is The Order of the Brethren of the CA. Thanks
Welcome to the boards;
to put very simply they are a pro Constitutional group of individuals devoted to the Constitution and the Republic without compromise as most of us here are.
However there are also some very misguided individuals here unfortunately as well, that are not Constitutionalists but apparently believe that they are and make that obvious by their support of organizations like the nra for example and individuals like george 'I got my oil rights' bush and believing that the gov-beast is really their friend.
These misguided individuals also believe that if we would just compromise away our rights over to the gov-beast and trust them then everything can be 'worked out' and that our Constitutional Rights are privileges and that the Second Amendment is for hunting and subject to the interpretation of the gov-beast and the 9th circus and other nonsense.
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
(sigh) losing interest in these commies, I tell ya.
Geez, you weren't kidding, there are alot of egotisticals on here especially in the ATE where I refined some posts being there is no point arguing with such types and there are much better answers elsewhere without all the bs nonsense from such asinine individuals.
I believe from that point that the CA name was then sort of 'reverse engineered' as it were against the enemy and has been used ever since, at least that is how it seemed during that time anyway.
They are covert, it really stands of 'Constitutional Advocates'!!![;)]
Very nice, Mr. Rau;
I like it.[;)][:)]
You would have to research quite a ways back to find it all.
quote:Originally posted by Jim Rau
They are covert, it really stands of 'Constitutional Advocates'!!![;)]
Very nice, Mr. Rau;
I like it.[;)][:)]
The shoe fits, does it not??? I thought you would like that![;)]
Do any of you use 'Ask the Attitudes' I mean Experts[rolleyes]?, as I don't see many of you posting over there and now I know why...seems to always be the same little group of trolls on there; however there are a select few that are actually helpful minus the smart-* attitude.
Jpwolf, is there another website where HighBall and the CA's hangout and perhaps for other True Patriots as well, however if outsiders are not welcome I would understand, as you were spot-on with your comment?
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf(sigh)losing interest in these commies, I tell ya.quote:Originally posted by StoBtruppenGeez, you weren't kidding, there are alot of egotisticals on here especially in the ATE where I refined some posts being there is no point arguing with such types and there are much better answers elsewhere without all the bs nonsense from such asinine individuals.
Do any of you use 'Ask the Attitudes' I mean Experts[rolleyes]?, as I don't see many of you posting over there and now I know why...seems to always be the same little group of trolls on there; however there are a select few that are actually helpful minus the smart-* attitude.
Jpwolf, is there another website where HighBall and the CA's hangout and perhaps for other True Patriots as well, however if outsiders are not welcome I would understand, as you were spot-on with your comment?
I have used the ATE forum about a dozen times in the 7-8 years I've been here, usually they helped with what I needed.
Unfortunately, at this point in time, HB does not post anywhere else. If he does, it is something I am not aware of. I really miss him. Every time I would reach a point where i just didn'y give a crap about thes neo-cons useless twits, he would post somethng, I would read it, and I would get fired up again.
I do not post anywhere else either. Where would one find the time?
quote:Originally posted by StoBtruppen
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf(sigh)losing interest in these commies, I tell ya.quote:Originally posted by StoBtruppenGeez, you weren't kidding, there are alot of egotisticals on here especially in the ATE where I refined some posts being there is no point arguing with such types and there are much better answers elsewhere without all the bs nonsense from such asinine individuals.
Do any of you use 'Ask the Attitudes' I mean Experts[rolleyes]?, as I don't see many of you posting over there and now I know why...seems to always be the same little group of trolls on there; however there are a select few that are actually helpful minus the smart-* attitude.
Jpwolf, is there another website where HighBall and the CA's hangout and perhaps for other True Patriots as well, however if outsiders are not welcome I would understand, as you were spot-on with your comment?
I have used the ATE forum about a dozen times in the 7-8 years I've been here, usually they helped with what I needed.
Unfortunately, at this point in time, HB does not post anywhere else. If he does, it is something I am not aware of. I really miss him. Every time I would reach a point where i just didn'y give a crap about thes neo-cons useless twits, he would post somethng, I would read it, and I would get fired up again.
I do not post anywhere else either. Where would one find the time?
I hear you and that says volumes in and of itself; I too get some useful information from the ATE once in a while from a few good folks there, but unfortunately most of it is opinionated smart-* nonsense.
Yeah, HB is a good guy and his posts were always an interesting and informative read and he was just good company. I witnessed alot of the liberal vs. Patriot skirmishes that normally took place on this board where HB and the CA's were involved in and was involved in several as well.
Yes, time is of the essence and I too find it difficult to post both over here and on the other site, but it hasn't been too bad and will progress over time I would imagine.
Well like I said before, you guys and any other True Constitutionalists are always welcome in our country.
Regards
It's easy to figure out why that is. Fruitcake tastes yummy, when enjoyed with some Ritz crackers, Chex Mix and egg nog. But fruitcake all by itself is too much fruitcake -- it gets to be too much in a hurry. So while a little fruitcake is a good thing, having nothing but fruitcakes just won't work.
I'm happy to clear that up.[:D]
If you can't manage yourself well enough to stay in the game where you can change minds, you're not making a difference, you're just making noise.
Few if any minds have been changed by the handful of radicals here who are quick to jump on the chest of every person who doesn't follow their beliefs/methods lockstep. And they'll say: Who cares, I'm not here to change minds. Ok then, you're just talking to hear yourself talk.
I've thought about it a lot as I've taken a few months away from this forum during a busy time. The conclusion I came to is that "their" perception of themselves is vastly different from the one they portray to others -- and that they take pride in that. The perception others have of them is that they simply lack self-control and self-discipline, because the rest of us know that it isn't enough to just know that this country is slipping toward anti-constitutional socialism. The others know that the goal is to win the game and you can't win the game if you run off 2/3 of the players who would be on your team but for a few differences of degree.
The race is long. That's one of my favorite axioms in life.
Collectivism inevitably leads to totalitarianism, is a favorite axiom of mine.
If you can't manage yourself well enough to stay in the game where you can change minds, you're not making a difference, you're just making noise.
Meaningless blather, as it is applied here.
Few if any minds have been changed by the handful of radicals here who are quick to jump on the chest of every person who doesn't follow their beliefs/methods lockstep.
Do you have any empirical or other data to support this statement, or are you merely applying your flawed personal opinion????
None of those you are attempting to marginalize are in lock-step. We differ in certain areas. Where we come together, is in out ability to read the Constitution and discern its simple framework to restrain government and to establish a system of Republicanism, e.g. The Republic.
Those you attempt to marginalize also correctly apply the ethic and ideals of Individualism to this Republic and the Constitution, as did the founders in their drafting of it and their understandings and intent.
You and your ilk, well....you do not.
I see a bunch of collectivist-weasels, gnawing away at the foundation of the Republic and of individual liberty itself, whether they are from the left, center or right.
And they'll say: Who cares, I'm not here to change minds. Ok then, you're just talking to hear yourself talk.
Another strawman.
For me, I do what I do for a purpose and that purpose makes those like you angry or uncomfortable, I suspect it is due to the bright light it shines on your advocated beliefs and how they do not line up with liberty and the principles of the Republic.
That is all.
I've thought about it a lot as I've taken a few months away from this forum during a busy time. The conclusion I came to is that "their" perception of themselves is vastly different from the one they portray to others -- and that they take pride in that.
We all perceive things through the filter of our beliefs, ethic and desires.
Those who seem driven to attempt rebuttal of the underlying principles that many of us attempt to illustrate, well, we come back to that personal 'perception', anger or disdain that you likely feel.
I long ago dubbed your type as 'liberty-schitters', ones who crap on the mention or discussion of liberty and those who advocate it.
I submit that it is likely because in the areas of Liberty and the proper role of government, you come up lacking in your own eyes.
I know your certainly do in my eyes, severely.
The perception others have of them is that they simply lack self-control and self-discipline, because the rest of us know that it isn't enough to just know that this country is slipping toward anti-constitutional socialism.
Do you read the crap you write before you hit 'post new reply'.....[:D]
You are 'projecting' YOUR perceptions, angers and flawed views onto these mysterious 'others' and attempting to bolster YOUR projection by trying to align yourself with some made-up 'rest of us' who 'know' the real deal...
What a clown.
The others know that the goal is to win the game and you can't win the game if you run off 2/3 of the players who would be on your team but for a few differences of degree.
I see you are still running with 'the others' who know...[:)]
You don't seem able to grasp that YOU and your 'others' are not wanted on the side of liberty, because to have you there would merely dilute and eventually make a sick-parody of what it is, much like the sick-parody that those like you have driven the Republic to be.
YOU and 'the others' are what I use as an example of that which is destroying the Republic.
You are naught but a chalkboard and every post of this type that you and your ilk make, allows me or another constitutionalist and liberty-advocate to contrast your soothing-hissings with founding principles and allows the diametric opposition to be shown.
You are factually a tool.
Really? I've never seen you type the word collectivism before. [:D]
quote:Do you have any empirical or other data to support this statement, or are you merely applying your flawed personal opinion????
It's just my flawed personal opinion. And that's what separates you guys from the real world -- the rest of us know we're flawed beings. Actually, we know you're flawed too, it's just that you don't know it yet.
quote:None of those you are attempting to marginalize are in lock-step. We differ in certain areas. Where we come together, is in out ability to read the Constitution and discern its simple framework to restrain government and to establish a system of Republicanism, e.g. The Republic.
I have not marginalized them, they've done it to themselves by deluding themselves into equating extremism with righteousness. It's the same malady that afflicts Fred Phelps. Exactly the same.
quote:I see a bunch of collectivist-weasels, gnawing away at the foundation of the Republic and of individual liberty itself, whether they are from the left, center or right.
And you're hunting down the weasels with a fishingpole. You have, for the most part, identified the correct prey, you're just going about the hunt all wrong.
quote:For me, I do what I do for a purpose and that purpose makes those like you angry or uncomfortable, I suspect it is due to the bright light it shines on your advocated beliefs and how they do not line up with liberty and the principles of the Republic.
No, I'm a getter-doner. I don't find any honor in using tactics that don't work and then complaining about the lack of results. I want results, and you don't get results by demanding perfection from imperfect people.
quote:I long ago dubbed your type as 'liberty-schitters', ones who crap on the mention or discussion of liberty and those who advocate it.
Fair enough. Tell us how it's working for you? Are you making progress toward your goal, or are you merely informing people how you feel? When you guys tire of stroking each other and want to actually get something done, you'll wise up to what those around you already know. I'm a patient man and I'll wait for you to catch up because I think you can do it eventually...
quote:I submit that it is likely because in the areas of Liberty and the proper role of government, you come up lacking in your own eyes.
Nope. Save for a few issues I'm a Libertarian. I want just enough government to enforce contracts and keep us from killing each other, then get the hell out of the way. I'm the guy constantly complaining about marble courthouses, intricate bridge artwork, elaborate tile at the New Orleans Airport, etc. I'm for school buildings and other taxpayer-purchased buildings being nondescript and functional but no more.
quote:Do you read the crap you write before you hit 'post new reply'.....[:D]
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Sometimes partially. [:D] Sometimes I just like to wind up the mouse to watch it zip around the floor bumping into stuff.
quote:You are 'projecting' YOUR perceptions, angers and flawed views onto these mysterious 'others' and attempting to bolster YOUR projection by trying to align yourself with some made-up 'rest of us' who 'know' the real deal...
The "rest of us" are at least smart enough to stay unbanned. Ol' Highball is sure advancing the cause from his position of silence on GB, huh?
quote:You don't seem able to grasp that YOU and your 'others' are not wanted on the side of liberty, because to have you there would merely dilute and eventually make a sick-parody of what it is, much like the sick-parody that those like you have driven the Republic to be.
Well, thankfully you're only in charge of the tiny little microscopic clique of like-minded radicals who wouldn't know how to advance their cause to save their rears.
quote:YOU and 'the others' are what I use as an example of that which is destroying the Republic.
Ok. And you have, what, 8 people out of thousands here who agree with you? Good luck with that.
quote:You are naught but a chalkboard and every post of this type that you and your ilk make, allows me or another constitutionalist and liberty-advocate to contrast your soothing-hissings with founding principles and allows the diametric opposition to be shown.
Whew! That was profound. [:D] Still, you're wrong. Radically wrong, but wrong nonetheless.
That bout sum it up, jellyfish?
I look to history, and since it is established that we once had a republic, I can see no justifiable (that's where we nail you spineless pus-sies) reason why we can't have it again.
Guess those founders were just more perfecter[;)] than we are? After all, they achieved what you claim is impossible.
Those who make excuses of any kind, (yours is not a new one btw) not to re-claim what has been lost, are simply cowards, lazy, or both.
"We are not perfect, so demanding perfection from us is a not possible"?
That bout sum it up, jellyfish?
I look to history, and since it is established that we once had a republic, I can see no justifiable (that's where we nail you spineless pus-sies) reason why we can't have it again.
I believe circumventing the profanity filter is a violation of TOS. Perhaps you should join HB.
I'd be annoyed with you wannabe-Tim McVeighs if I thought you had enough sense to light a match without setting your Depends on fire. Actually, you're just kind of pathetic.
Rest assured, your opinions don't count. They're as meaningless as they are goofy. Anyone with an IQ larger than their inseam knows this. So please, stop trying to appoint yourselves as keeper of the Constitution. You're not qualified. You probably have great difficulty managing your personal lives, and you come on here and laughably propose to pick and choose who does and does not deserve the protection of the BOR and the Constitution??? Dream on, boy.
You radicals are little more than bullies trying to intimidate people into silence. That might work on the Crossword Puzzle Forum where you also frequent, but this is a gun forum and members aren't gonna take your faux bluster.
Take a hike.
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
"We are not perfect, so demanding perfection from us is a not possible"?
That bout sum it up, jellyfish?
I look to history, and since it is established that we once had a republic, I can see no justifiable (that's where we nail you spineless pus-sies) reason why we can't have it again.
I believe circumventing the profanity filter is a violation of TOS. Perhaps you should join HB.
I'd be annoyed with you wannabe-Tim McVeighs if I thought you had enough sense to light a match without setting your Depends on fire. Actually, you're just kind of pathetic.
Rest assured, your opinions don't count. They're as meaningless as they are goofy. Anyone with an IQ larger than their inseam knows this. So please, stop trying to appoint yourselves as keeper of the Constitution. You're not qualified. You probably have great difficulty managing your personal lives, and you come on here and laughably propose to pick and choose who does and does not deserve the protection of the BOR and the Constitution??? Dream on, boy.
You radicals are little more than bullies trying to intimidate people into silence. That might work on the Crossword Puzzle Forum where you also frequent, but this is a gun forum and members aren't gonna take your faux bluster.
Take a hike.
Couldn't get through the whole post. But apparently, the hammer landed squarely on the head of the nail tack. You sound a wee bit upset. Bummer. Go read the Constitution, and Declaration of Independence, let your nads drop, then come back.
While I'm flattered by your interest in my nads, I guess, I really don't roll that way.
Thanks for the offer though.
1. (adj) sissy, pantywaist, pansy, milksop, Milquetoast
a timid man or boy considered childish or unassertive
Synonyms: sissy, poove, poof, fag, queer, friend, milksop, fagot, fairy, pansy, pouf, queen, nance, pantywaist
Antonyms: manly, manful, manlike
2. (adj) effeminate, emasculate, epicene, cissy, sissified, sissyish, sissy
having unsuitable feminine qualities
Synonyms: sissy, bisexual, cissy, emasculate, effeminate, epicene, sissyish, sissified
Antonyms: manlike, manly, manful
quote:Couldn't get through the whole post. But apparently, the hammer landed squarely on the head of the nail tack. You sound a wee bit upset. Bummer. Go read the Constitution, and Declaration of Independence, let your nads drop, then come back.
While I'm flattered by your interest in my nads, I guess, I really don't roll that way.
Thanks for the offer though.
Odd that you saw an "offer" of some sort in what was clearly a "suggestion". Since you are "rolling" anyway, perhaps spread out some flour on the floor and see if you can locate the wet spot? (Just in case you get confused again, this was ALSO what is known as a "suggestion".)
Are you some kind of sexual deviant? Why the infatuation with me sexually? You're starting to creep me out a little. Look, I don't know if Bubba converted you to AC/DC while you were in prison on that indecency with a child rap, or if you're just naturally fruity, but I must decline your offers yet again.
Perhaps the Constitution is simply over your head. Hey I know, why don't you go help NAMBLA tidy up their corporate charter?