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Longhunter: I don't have a clear answer to your question. For my peace of mind I wish I did. I just know that those of us (and our numbers dwindle each year) that believe in the right of the peaceable citizens to have such rights as owning guns (and the power that goes with owning) are losing the battle. The only success we have had is that the majority of the states now allow concealed carry of firearms. Of course that won't matter much if the fedcoats outlaw all handguns. In all other areas we have either lost rights forever or at a great cost of time money and effort we either fought the anti-gun forces to a standstill (not much of a victory) or merely won back rights that the anti-gunners took from us. I don't even have to decide if citizens should have the right to own machine guns. I just know that if that right is ever granted, or even without that particular right, there will definately be another nut case shoot up a school, or work place, etc. and the victims will number in the hundreds instead of dozens if a machine gun is used. As soon as that happens I predict that not only the right to own a machine gun will be quickly erased, but the right to own all guns. And for those of you who think I sound like the anti-gunners by predicting that there will be future shootings, I think you all know it will happen. But I still believe in the right of the peaceable citizens to own guns. And anytime you give freedom to citizens, someone will be hurt. Freedom is not free. And for any anti-gun spies that might be reading this, I don't just mean this statement in regards to guns. Our American freedom of travel, freedom of association, freedom of speech, etc., allows many criminals to harm, and sometimes kill, many Americans without any use of guns.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
One more thought. It seems to me that evidence that the blanket rule that a felon, any felon, cannot own a firearm just might, just might, be somewhat unfair in some cases is the little thought about fact that felons are not supposed to even ASSOCIATE with people who own guns. Now what kind of position does that put a felon and his relatives in who might own guns? I am not a felon nor have relatives who are. And in fact I carry a gun for my job. But I know that even in strictly fair circumstances it is far, far easier to become a felon than most people believe. And this doesn't even take into consideration the cases where the police or the prosecuter are out to get you (that does happen).
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Tr, I'll agree with that last post at least...I had a friend that was a felon(drugs an such)now he had done his time etc,his dad passed away and he,his wifw an kids moved into the ole farm.They just closed off the upstais to conserve heat and save going thru it till later.Now he was clean,saw his P officer etc.He started raisin hogs,at some point some lil puke got busted for possesion and they gave him lighter sentance for * his (supplier).You gueesed it he fingered my friend....They came in like gangbusters,scared the snot out of everyone,didn'tfind a dam thing...until they went upstairs.In a closet they found his dads 410 and a 22,and there ya go...busted for possessing a firearm as a felon,got 5 years for that.Hardly fair or just,they found nothing but some cash,most of us here still use cash and we pay him that way when we get piglets.NO illegal drugs,not even use amounts.ISo I do see how the felon can suffer needless bull,or become a felon easily.Still I would have to question the wisdom of putting a gun in ones hands who for the bulk of his/her life has shown to be violent,abusive etc.etc...How do yoou draw the line?....I've no idea...
Longhunter: I have only knowledge of the law that I gained by observation so I ask questions and give my personal opinion but not advice. I don't know about how felons are treated but I assume the police had to get a search warrant after the little punk accused your friend of being his dealer. And every search warrant has to specify what is being searched for. The two guns that were found don't sound like the usual "crime guns" associated with a drug dealer and I would doubt that the wording of the warrant would apply to them. If any of this is true then it would appear to me to have been an illegal search and the fact that the guns were found would have to be ignored as if it didn't even happen. In other words, with the little formal training I have had in the matter, illegal police activity cannot produce legal results. But I don't know if that applies to how your friend's parole officer has to conduct himself in regards to punishing your friend. In fact I would like to know if any of what I have just posted is correct and what about the parole officer and his actions in regard to an illegal search (if there was one) allowing legal punishment? Anybody know? I'm always looking for more information.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Didn't seem like it could b legal,but he got 5 years for it,just got out a while back....Seemed to me that the rules were being made up as they went alon.I've been told there is NO excuse for being where there is a gun if you are a felon?
What part of "shall not be infringed" do we all not understand? You convict a man of a crime, tell him that this is what must be done for him to return to or, to redeem himself in society's eyes then, he is branded with the scarlet letter (felon) for life!! We have laws (not in all but in most states) that if kill someone your life, may well be taken in return. These laws rarely are followed. Someone takes a life and they get off (because they really don't want the violent ones in jail)(they would much rather have them running the streets so they can commit more crimes and justify MORE LAWS!) or payoff those in the court system. These people then get out and kill again and everyone is yelling about this felon getting out and how we need this law and that law. WE DO NOT NEED ANYMORE FREAKING LAWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In the old west if, you where in jail and you served your time you where let out and they gave you your gun on your way out! In the old west if you killed someone and they could catch you, you hung from a rope, sometimes before you even went to court. What part of "shall not be infringed" do we all not understand? Words mean things! I have a brother in-law who (in his younger days) committed a crime (against a Pepsi machine) and was made an example of. He served his time (in the freaking state pen) and now can't own a freaking gun!! Dumb move on his part (he used a bat on the machine only after it did not give him his Pepsi) I will admit but, do you really think that he should not be able to own a gun because of this act?? I can't tell you how many times a machine has ripped me off and I felt like doing a hell of a lot more to that darn thing then just beating it with a bat!! I am sorry but this really gets me mad. We wonder why a lot of the felons turn to crime again after they get out. I can tell you that it has not been easy for him to do most things that we don't even think twice about doing. He is a good man and will continue to pay for his crime the rest of his life. I am learning a lot about the way this country used to be and seeing the way it is now just makes me want to puke. There is one law they need to pass. Anyone caught in a lie in D.C. are immediately put to death, no questions asked!!!!! I for one would support that law, hell I would be willing to be the one that throws the switch on the chair. We need to get off the fence folks!
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When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
A man always has two reasons for what he does-a good one,and the real one. J.PIERPONT MORGAN,1930
Well,Doctor what have we got-a Repuplic or a monarchy?
"A Repuplic,if you can keep it." BENJAMIN FRANKLIN 1787
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