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dsmithdsmith Member Posts: 902 ✭✭✭✭
edited November 2003 in Gun Rights and Constitutional Law
Check this out.
Shows you what happens in a country where gun kontrol and "crime prevention" rule. That's right the Socialst republic of England. They actually want every British citizen to register his/her DNA!!! Once they stole the Brit's guns, they want to steal their DNA, "to prevent crimes". Shows you where the left-wing mindset takes you.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3088920.stm
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  • longhunterlonghunter Member Posts: 3,242
    edited November -1
    Scarey........and not that far off........[V]
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  • Mr.PissyPantsMr.PissyPants Member Posts: 3,575
    edited November -1
    Sounds more like slavery then anything else...

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    Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
    -Benjamin Franklin
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  • brechtbrecht Member Posts: 305 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    well you have to leave your fingerprint in order to get you drivers license at least here in texas

    in a world full of compromise some don't
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  • longhunterlonghunter Member Posts: 3,242
    edited November -1
    [:0][:0]WHAAAAAAAATTTT????? Really?/Since when??
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  • brechtbrecht Member Posts: 305 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    sometimes this January

    in a world full of compromise some don't
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  • longhunterlonghunter Member Posts: 3,242
    edited November -1
    [xx(][:(!]that stinks.....What can I say,we all now it is coming,sigh......third party thats what we need a viable third party...
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  • gunphreakgunphreak Member Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It'll never work. The only people who will register their DNA are the ones who registered their guns and got them confiscated. The DNA argument is without merit, and its justification is so weak as to allow the courts to find DNA evidence as conclusive, and has great potential for misuse... something I think they are counting on....


    But criminals will never comply.

    Death to Tyrants!!! Lev 26:14-39

    Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.

    Luke 22:36.
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  • hondohondo Member Posts: 181 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    First they took the Brits money, now they want their blood....Hondo
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  • brechtbrecht Member Posts: 305 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    lets relax a little bit.
    luckyly we don't live in Gattaca yet.
    Stuff like that gets discussed after every rape in europe initiated by some politician who wants to get some publicity from the media.
    to that momant nobody is seriously considering that.


    in a world full of compromise some don't
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  • brechtbrecht Member Posts: 305 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I habe a question for you guys when you drive around do you realize an increased number of cameras monted on poles along interstates?


    in a world full of compromise some don't
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  • longhunterlonghunter Member Posts: 3,242
    edited November -1
    Sorry,I live WAY up on the puckies,don't get out on many highways etc.I do see more in the one city I do visit for healthcare,at intersections,like to catch red light runners........L.H.
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  • tin22tin22 Member Posts: 731 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Another way to control us and see what we are up too. Does government ever change.
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  • gunphreakgunphreak Member Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No. It always seems to be a matter of time before a government gets out of hand and then becomes exterminated. It is only seeming to take longer, now, because technology is aiding the enemy of freedom, and that technology has a much more present hinderance ability, and the weapons we use, vs. the ones used against us are different, where there used to be no difference.

    Death to Tyrants!!! Lev 26:14-39

    Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.

    Luke 22:36.
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  • brechtbrecht Member Posts: 305 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Imagine the 3rd reich had todays technology

    in a world full of compromise some don't
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  • gungirlgungirl Member Posts: 1 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    new here. Happy to be here.
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  • longhunterlonghunter Member Posts: 3,242
    edited November -1
    Well hey,Hi and welcome! Please do not be a stranger here,jump right on in!....L.H.
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  • kriskris Member Posts: 973 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    court just ruled in us that it is illegal to collect dna from prisoners for a data base....due to the courts saying that by collection of dna was based on an assumption that the person that dna is colleted from is guilty of a crime...civil rights violation!..so if they wont do to it for housed criminals..it will be a long time before the consider it for anybody else

    it is good that we meet in the struggle of life or death.. .....it shall be life!
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  • gunphreakgunphreak Member Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Government Philosophy: If it isn't broke, fix it until it is.

    Death to Tyrants!!! Lev 26:14-39

    Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.

    Luke 22:36.
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  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    I have to disagree with Kris. The courts have proven time and again that they are willing to protect AFTER you become a criminal, not before.
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  • trstonetrstone Member Posts: 833 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I hope the Brits enjoy every moment of their crime-free Socialist paradise. They wanted it, they trammeled people's rights to get it, now they can wallow in it for all I care. In fact, I hope the number of home invasions and violent crimes doubles, or even triples on them. They deserve it. Then they can institute an even stupider, ineffectual, Naziesque policy like mandatory DNA sampling of the ENTIRE population, so they can show how having COMPLETE information on every person in Britain will bring the current crime wave to a screeching halt....As if.

    Have fun, you Socialist b**tards. I'm sure your freedom-loving policies are the delight and pride of the British people, who now enjoy a level of personal safety and liberty heretofore unseen in the annals of human society....

    And while we're at it, kudos to Bush Jr. for his brave promise to extend the "Assault Weapons" ban here in the US when it sunsets in 2004; it takes guts to sit in the White House and run your mouth about American freedoms while simultaneously telling the American people---who supposedly have a Constitutionally-guaranteed right to keep and bear arms, with NO SPECIFIC MENTION OF THE TYPE---that it's okay for IRAQIS to have fully-automatic "Assault Rifles", but by God it's NOT okay for YOU. And it's just peachy-ducky for Israeli civilians to have such weapons, by by God, it's NOT okay for YOU. Which is understandable, after all, since the peasants---ahem, I mean, American citizens----would probably only use them to defy Authority (i.e., the US Government.) Thank goodness we have a brave President who is willing to take an unpopular stance and tell the peasants---ooops, I mean "the American people"---a truth they need to hear: YOU can't be trusted with things like "Assault Rifles", whereas foreigners in an openly hostile nation CAN be, because...Well...They just CAN, dammit! So there!

    Let's face it, friends: With people like Bush Jr. in the White House, and undisguised Socialists in our House and Senate, and with servile little butt-kissers like the NRA fronting as "protectors of the Second Amendment", we are DEFINITELY on the same greased slide towards total firearm confiscation as Britain and Australia. It's no longer an issue of "if", merely "when". And we're to blame for this, when it comes as it surely will, for having relied on a phony system of "checks and balances" which has had an end-run made around it by people who have always hated the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The Kennedys. The Schumers. The Feinsteins. The Lautenbergs. The Boxers. The Liebermans. The Clintons. The Bushes.

    "Government". What a laugh. Govern? These people want to RULE, and they don't want a bunch of armed peasants standing in the way....
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  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    terstone: how true.

    When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
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  • alaskaalaska Member Posts: 15 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    hi all [8D]

    WHAT i cant use my mp5 for deer hunting oh am not in Kalifornicate I live in ALASKA i can use it to hunt with lol
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  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 32,012 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It has always been the ways of goverments. Start at the least of your rights which are freely given until they are at the core. A slow process but one that has been around for all time. Now, how to stop?

    "Right is Right, even is everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it"
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  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,291 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ALASKA, IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT TO GLOAT OVER US HAVING TO LIVE IN THE OCCUPIED TERRITORIES OF THE LEFT COAST.
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  • 2gun2gun Member Posts: 318 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    so we cant vote democrat because they will take away the guns, we cant vote republican because they are selling us out the last independent was governer wwf who certainly diddnt like peasents with guns so where do we go?
    funny thing is the gangbangers whose guns they keep sying theyre getting rid of dont seem all that worried ,i wonder why?

    happiness is a warm gun, preferably preban
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  • longhunterlonghunter Member Posts: 3,242
    edited November -1
    thats about the size of it......
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  • savage303savage303 Member Posts: 29 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ever noticed that all these problems arise from ever increasing population growth? Millions crossing the borders seeking the American dream? Boom towns poping up everywhere. Developers will sell their mothers for the sake of money! Once beautiful farms, last remaining forest cover dissapering overnight paving way for housing projects!. Drive to the shooting range becomes a days affair. At this rate it is just a matter of time that we will only be allowed to shoot soft air plastic pellets in our basements. If you have not noticed this then you must be one of the lucky few living way back in the country. But believe me it is coming to your neighborhood soon!
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  • longhunterlonghunter Member Posts: 3,242
    edited November -1
    Originally posted by savage303
    Ever noticed that all these problems arise from ever increasing population growth? Millions crossing the borders seeking the American dream? Boom towns poping up everywhere. Developers will sell their mothers for the sake of money! Once beautiful farms, last remaining forest cover dissapering overnight paving way for housing projects!. Drive to the shooting range becomes a days affair. At this rate it is just a matter of time that we will only be allowed to shoot soft air plastic pellets in our basements. If you have not noticed this then you must be one of the lucky few living way back in the country. But believe me it is coming to your neighborhood soon!


    Um,Ya....I even see it here.Tho it is slow enough that I personaly will not need to worry much,I still got more state left before Canada,depending on which way I head...
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  • flat8flat8 Member Posts: 887 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    trstone -

    when did Bush say he was going to extend the assault gun ban??
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  • longhunterlonghunter Member Posts: 3,242
    edited November -1
    I think that he said something to the effect that he would consider it..........
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  • trstonetrstone Member Posts: 833 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's been in the news quite a bit---he didn't say he'd "consider" it, the backstabbing fraud said he'd SIGN it, period.
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  • trstonetrstone Member Posts: 833 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here---this may clear things up a bit:

    http://www.post-gazette.com/nation/20030525assaultnat3p3.asp

    Our fake "pro-gun" President, Pseudo-Conservative Supreme, whom I will NEVER vote for again, says he'll sign the extension, while trying to be the penultimate political weasel (and trying to retain what little gravitas he has remaining with gun-owners) by hemming and hawing about making the ban "permanent". He wants to talk out of both sides of his mouth to people like us---the pro-Second-Amendment nitwits who helped put him on the throne---and convince us that he's on "our" side. What a laugh. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice....Well, you know how it goes.
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  • andy12390andy12390 Member Posts: 486 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    if you are a thief/robber or any other thing like that aren't you going to think twice about entering someone's house if you knew that everyone owned a firearm? its common sense that a criminal would definately have to think about it a couple times. i think that if everyone carried a gun you would have to be a complete idiot to rob or steal or anything like that.

    gfegfdh
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  • longhunterlonghunter Member Posts: 3,242
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by trstone
    It's been in the news quite a bit---he didn't say he'd "consider" it, the backstabbing fraud said he'd SIGN it, period.



    Thanks for the link,and just so you do know,I am NOT a staunch Bush supporter.It does however ,in the article look like he is trying to straddle the fence and make both sides happy.Of course that can't be done...he is worried about his next term,and will have to come out very hard one way or the other if he is to be reelected..IMO...L.H.
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  • trstonetrstone Member Posts: 833 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I tell you this: Were I a bad guy, I'd LOVE plying my trade in Britain, now that I know that my prey has been effectively disarmed. And I wouldn't worry much about the cops, either, knowing that very few of them would be carrying.
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  • savage303savage303 Member Posts: 29 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    trstone,
    How true!! Below is a item from today's BBC news. I thought guns were banned in London!![xx(]!.


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/3266337.stm

    Here are some excerpts from the news item:

    "The mothers of the two teenagers have started a campaign against gun violence."

    "Letisha's mother, Marcia, and Charlene's mother, Beverley Thomas, travelled to New York to see how the problem of gun crime is tackled there"

    - dk

    - When guns are banned, only the criminals will have guns
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