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What if I should have ti use my pistol?
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I don't have a CCW but sometimes I take my pistol with me. For example if I am going to a bad area. or to the laundry mat (was robbed two days ago). I live in an area that is very hard to get a CCW. If I should have to use my pistol to protect myself or someone else, would I go to prison for carrying a gun? By the way, I live in California. If so then I will stop taking it because I would rather die then go to prison.
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But it is probably true that it is better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6. Plus it is POSSIBLE to get out of jail, but IMPOSSIBLE to get out of the cemeterary. JMHO.
Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"
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"If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace" -Thomas Paine
If the people have become so apathetic that they will not vote out all the liberal scum (republican and democrat alike), the only solution is Constitutional Convention II the sequel. Let's get it right this time.
The NRA appears to have conceded to the idea that the law is the law, no matter how unconstitutional it is. If you knowingly violate it, even though it would be a grand opportunity for them to act aggressively and have certain crap thrown from the books and right into the trash can where it belongs, they will not come to your aid, because they work on the same principle as a trial lawyer, and take only the cases they believe they can win. Don't be fooled.
My advice? MOVE!!! Quite possibly, this is the worst place to live in the US, if you are not one of the politically connected. It surprises me how many people do live there, many of whom know this.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Remember how many seats were lost after AWB passage? Vae victis!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
I get tired of complaining about this on the net and to my friends, as most of the time I'm preaching to the choir.
There has got to be a better way for the average joe to make a difference in our laws other than simply moving away.
Here's why moving away is bad in my opinion:
1. Moving away is like surrendering. If gun owners tuck tail and run to a different state, we simply accelerate socialism world wide. CA is the 3rd largest economy in the WORLD, the most populous state in the US and possibly the most politically influential because of its wealth, population and ability to crank out TV and movies. If CA completely falls, the rest of the US will eventually follow. Just look at the stupid environmental laws we export.
2. The Gun issue is an issue of freedom and civil liberties in my opinion. Taking away my home, lifestyle and friends is about as much of a deprivation as taking away my guns. Why put up with this as a fair trade?
This state doesn't make sense to me. People fight for the right "to choose", the right for gay marriages, the right to smoke marijuana (sp?), the right to legalize gambling, etc. Why is this one critical freedom of the right to defend yourself the only one people don't care about in CA?!? I truly don't get it. I think Californians are about as freedom loving as anyone, and most people I know that support Democrats do so because the want more freedoms. If only we could convince these people that guns are a freedom worth fighting for, this state could come around.
Sorry to vent. The Australiam sword thing really got me PO'd and then I saw this post. I just wish there was a way like minded people could make a difference. I vote, I have multiple pro-gun web sites, I give money to pro-gun organizations, etc. Sometimes I feel good about and convince myself I'm making a small difference and then days like today I just get grouchy and disappointed. There's got to be SOMETHING that people like me can do to make an actual difference.
As far as carrying your pistol and the original topic of this post, good luck. You are between a rock and a hard place just like the rest of us. If it's any consolation, I've read in numerous places that the typical illegal firemarm possession is prosecuted as a misdemeanor and not the possible felony, though that is up to the DA's discretion.
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Is it surrendering to leave? Considering that the chances of you ever seeing those laws overturned in your lifetime is a big fat negative, you've already lost.
But would it be wiser to congregate with a higher concentration of people of similar or exact views? Well, it's one way to preserve your liberties against state laws encroaching on your freedom.
As assbackward as Kali is, what makes you so sure God isn't wanting to blast it from the world the way he did Sodom and Gomorrah? Do you want to be there? Perhaps He's waiting until His true believers leave and then send His Wrath upon them.
Also, leaving the state ensures your ability to protect yourself and your family, and takes one more person willing to defend himself away, leaving only the weakest links for criminals to feed upon. Once this happens enough times, the people are at the mercy of criminals, and lots and lots of hearts and minds begin to have a change of heart. This may actually be the only way to see all that ridiculous gun kontrol overturned. This could take a while, though.
The other option is to start a revolution. I highly doubt this will happen.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Remember how many seats were lost after AWB passage? Vae victis!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
I can see your point about staying where you are, but if enough people who are PRO gun live in one place, then they are in a position to seriously influence who is elected and determine their own fate, as it relates to legal and lawful ownership and use of firearms.
Perhaps you should hope that enough firearms enthusiasts would move to the People's Republik of Kalifornia to turn the politicians and left wing judiciary around and elect some folks with common sense and get judges who don't twist the Constitution to suit their own agendae.
John
A friend will post your bail. A good friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying, "man that was fun!"
However, depending on the nature of the shooting, they may not even try to prosecute. Self-defense shootings are notoriously difficult to prosecute, even in questionable circumstances.
On the other hand, they will definitely nail you for carrying without a permit and related weapon charges. So figure you are choosing which felony you'll get hit with.[V]