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NJ Gun rights... reasons for denial if PtoP
adel2fo
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One of the reasons that NJ municipalities can deny a person a permit to Purchase is the following...
"A person where the issuance would not be in the interest of the public health, safety, or welfare."
What exactly does this cover? Is it a blanket way to refuse the right to purchase? Or does it require some level of proof, justification? Anyone know?
"A person where the issuance would not be in the interest of the public health, safety, or welfare."
What exactly does this cover? Is it a blanket way to refuse the right to purchase? Or does it require some level of proof, justification? Anyone know?
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That's why it is among several states I will never live in.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
If he denies it (and probably will), where do you think it will go next? If you want it arbitrated to see whether he was just in denying your application, it will have to go to where the law can be 'interpreted', and that is the judge. (I'm just skipping through the BS, because this is probably where it would end up, anyway).
In either case, it is almost impossible to get one absent a "compelling need". I have been seeing a lot of cases going to judges that were declined by the local police chief, and defending your life is not a compelling need. In a couple of instances I have seen, a couple women being stalked and had death threats issued to them by their stalker (usually an intimate partner) and were still absent a "compelling need" that was suitable. When I last looked, there were 17 of them. 11 are dead, now.
Sounds to me like you have a problem, especially if you have reason to believe you are in danger. It just never seems to matter to those who have nothing to fear what happens to those who have everything to fear, does it? Sad state of affairs....
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
we have really lost all rights then since the basic rights are LIFE liberty and the pursuit of happiness[V]at this point it may be the right time to rename it the bill of suggestions
no end to the ban here in ny.wish we could our congresscritters too.
They can still be declined. It is still in the ploice chief's hands as to what he believes is against the public welfare (and you can bet he probably will). Then it still goes to a judge, and it becomes a matter of what the judge thinks the law of the land is.
All the same crap in fooeyholes like NJ.
I don't know exactly what they'll all say, but I do know that most unelected police chiefs in liberal communities have absolutely no problem denying you your 2nd Amendment rights whenever they can, and elected officials, such as County Sheriffs, know if they do that to too many people, next time they go up for re-election, they won't even be a dog catcher, then.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
wcj
If it hasn't happened to you, the time will come. It just so happens that living in Indiana, they have no problem buying whatever they want now. I don't live in Indiana, but I do go hunting with them periodically.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
"In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a brave and scarce man, hated and scorned. When the cause succeeds, however, the timid join him...for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." -Mark Twain
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke
My guess would be, yes. All those firearms would have to be registered and validated or become contraband.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
What I ment by the upside is, that permits cost $2 each with no limit to the amount you want. I see no free ride in owning a gun, the guns cost, NICS charge, tax, care, cost of ammo, range fees & other related expense, are a bit higher then the $2 permit. Come to think of it I can't think of many things that don't come with some kinda related or non related costs.
"In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a brave and scarce man, hated and scorned. When the cause succeeds, however, the timid join him...for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." -Mark Twain
In principle, permission to a right isn't a right of all.
But it sounds to me like you know that, already.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."