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HR 1592. and Other Gov'ment Deceptions
Wagon Wheel
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I sent out a blurb and links to make people aware of another blatant attack on our Liberty by the Democratically lead Congress. Got this in response:
This article is about HR 1592. You should read this. Also, at the bottom is a link to the author's website. Go to the site and scroll down and read an article that's very interesting about the Jamestown anniversary...political correctness IS the destruction of the American people. It's not the beginning, as I've read on many websites, it is the END of our rights. It is the end of the Constitution. We must stand up! We cannot keep waiting for someone else to do the work of defending our rights. I read a lot of articles and posts all over the Internet. I know there are some good and some great people that are working real hard. But it is not going to be enough to save us! WE MUST STAND UP!
For my grandchildren, I will STAND UP and do whatever it takes to stop the destruction of our country! I will use whatever resources, I will make any sacrifice, and I will not give up. I will not be fooled any longer. Why save money for their college fund if they will only be slaves to the State when they get their degree, if the Liberals have their way, And, IF they are allowed to attend college. They may just be sent to their "assigned duties". College may just be for the Leaders children.
I am an American. My father fought at Guadalcanal for my freedom. My ancestry is a mixture of Native American Indian to Irish, English, and German immigrants. I AM an American and I WILL NOT surrender!
Don't just think about it...STAND UP!
HR 1592 is the most dangerous precursor to Orwellian type thought policing that has ever come down the pike. Since the bill will reach the house in only a week letters will miss the mark. The best course of action is to search online and by telephone. If passed the bill would produce a kind of fear that has always been associated with tyranny in any nation or civilization throughout history. Ignoring HR 1592 is what happens when we retreat to fantasy. Living in a contrived or alternate reality is sufficient to preoccupy a nation while real life truth is under attack. America has been summarily distracted. The enemy (unseen) is doing much more than trying to get you to curse the milk you dropped on the floor this morning. It is you and all who believe as you do he is trying to put on the floor.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/24632.html
These are the links I sent out:
H. R. 1592 (Introduced-in-House)
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/gpoxmlc110/h1592_ih.xml
Americans for Truth ? Help Stop 'Thought Crimes': Conyers' 'Hate Grandma' Bill (HB 1592) Introduced in Congress
Click here for link
WorldNetDaily: Conyers' 'Hate Grandma' bill introduced in House
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54879
This article is about HR 1592. You should read this. Also, at the bottom is a link to the author's website. Go to the site and scroll down and read an article that's very interesting about the Jamestown anniversary...political correctness IS the destruction of the American people. It's not the beginning, as I've read on many websites, it is the END of our rights. It is the end of the Constitution. We must stand up! We cannot keep waiting for someone else to do the work of defending our rights. I read a lot of articles and posts all over the Internet. I know there are some good and some great people that are working real hard. But it is not going to be enough to save us! WE MUST STAND UP!
For my grandchildren, I will STAND UP and do whatever it takes to stop the destruction of our country! I will use whatever resources, I will make any sacrifice, and I will not give up. I will not be fooled any longer. Why save money for their college fund if they will only be slaves to the State when they get their degree, if the Liberals have their way, And, IF they are allowed to attend college. They may just be sent to their "assigned duties". College may just be for the Leaders children.
I am an American. My father fought at Guadalcanal for my freedom. My ancestry is a mixture of Native American Indian to Irish, English, and German immigrants. I AM an American and I WILL NOT surrender!
Don't just think about it...STAND UP!
HR 1592 is the most dangerous precursor to Orwellian type thought policing that has ever come down the pike. Since the bill will reach the house in only a week letters will miss the mark. The best course of action is to search online and by telephone. If passed the bill would produce a kind of fear that has always been associated with tyranny in any nation or civilization throughout history. Ignoring HR 1592 is what happens when we retreat to fantasy. Living in a contrived or alternate reality is sufficient to preoccupy a nation while real life truth is under attack. America has been summarily distracted. The enemy (unseen) is doing much more than trying to get you to curse the milk you dropped on the floor this morning. It is you and all who believe as you do he is trying to put on the floor.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/24632.html
These are the links I sent out:
H. R. 1592 (Introduced-in-House)
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/gpoxmlc110/h1592_ih.xml
Americans for Truth ? Help Stop 'Thought Crimes': Conyers' 'Hate Grandma' Bill (HB 1592) Introduced in Congress
Click here for link
WorldNetDaily: Conyers' 'Hate Grandma' bill introduced in House
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54879
Comments
Gold Star Dad Says Anti-War Dems 'Too Busy' to Meet Him -- 04/12/2007
Our Fearless Leaders are comfortable making bad policy but when ask to face the people affected by that policy they hide like cowards. This Doesn't surprise me!!!
Hager has tried -- without success -- to schedule meetings or phone calls with some of the leading proponents of a military withdrawal, including Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania.
Sen. Kerry said he does not have a policy on meeting with families of fallen soldiers.Spokesmen for Murtha and Pelosi did not respond to calls and e-mails requesting comment Wednesday.
http://www.cnsnews.com:80/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200704/POL20070412a.html
PASS THIS ON... Let America See THE TRUE COLORS Of Our PRESENT Leadership!!!!!! And I use that phrase with the utmost of distain!!!!!!
RESIST The May Day March!
This is an URGENT ALERT to every Red blooded American.
Are You Concerned About The Illegal Alien Invasion Of America?
Do you feel that our beloved nation is slipping through our fingers while Washington dithers? Patriots, Minutemen and Red Blooded Americans are ready to fight back. We need a generation of modern-day Paul Reveres! We must rise up and shout the alert into the ears of the politically deaf! We must pulverize Capitol Hill with HOT faxes that make them take notice.
Unless WE THE PEOPLE speaks up the Bush administration will give away our sovereignty by destroying our citizenship. By rewarding law-breakers with citizenship the federal government destroys the very people that have made our beloved nation great!
In just a few days, on May 1st, one million anti-American lawbreakers will take to the streets to demand that you pay their way and if you dare to complain you will be labeled a filthy racist!
What's in your wallet? Illegal aliens think that it is their money! Misguided fools traditionally celebrate communism on May 1st, however this year one million illegal aliens will boldly march down our streets demanding our rights! Our government should arrest each illegal alien and send them back home where they belong but instead the authorities will twiddle their thumbs while Rome burns!
Some of the marchers will merely be useful idiots brainwashed into believing that America has no laws. Some will be misguided students from our own high schools and colleges. But make no mistake a sinister dark force with a global agenda will spew forth its vile message of racism and hatred condemning all that is right and honorable!
There will be Benedict Arnolds that will wrap themselves in the American flag and pretend to honor our country but their secret motive is conquest.
Many anti-American organizations will claim that they only want to help their people to come to America so that they can do the work Americans won't do, don't buy into that lie!
Since when has the American people refused to do an honest days work?
To add injury to insult many of our elected officials, led by ultra-liberal socialists like Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi, will actually listen to these invaders and feel sorry for them. Our pandering politicians will sympathize with the law breaking illegal aliens treating them as if they are the future and voting citizens are useless. They will blather about amnesty and falsely state that we are a "nation of immigrants".
Don't let their bolder-dash confused you!
While millions of illegal aliens march on May 1st, most Americans will be busy working two jobs just trying to pay their taxes so that illegal aliens can continual to collect welfare checks paid for by the sweat of your brawl.
What can we do about this vile problem?
NOW there IS something you can do, by acting now you can out-shout the illegal aliens and beat them at their own game!
NOW, you can be modern day Paul Revere sending a powerful message to all Senators and all the Congressmen in Washington D.C. You can send your message from the comfort of your home or office. Our march will be in the face of our decision makers in D.C.
We have the power to march on top of every Senators and every Congressmen desk and in their face with our HOT faxes!
REMEMBER, they can march but we can vote! Your fax blasts represents literally thousands of citizens that feel the same way you do but didn't have the opportunity to send a blistering fax to D.C.
You can make the difference! WE, THE PEOPLE can force our voice into the ears of the politically impotent. We are calling all Minutemen, Patriots and Red Blooded Americans to slam Capitol Hill with HOT faxes!
Fax-Blast ALL 100 members of the Senate... and ALL 435 members of Congress!
Send a STRONG AND CLEAR MESSAGE to all the Congressmen and Senators about flushing amnesty!
To review the fax message: http://www.faxdc.com/sample_fax.htm
(If you chose not to pay the fee for the fax service, I copied it to this document and you can C&P, then e-mail it yourself. PLEASE, Take ACTION NOW!!)
To Fax Blast Washington D.C. NOW!: http://www.faxdc.com/Order.htm
Remember: Some fax services allow you to fax only one congress member at a time. We are offering a way to fax all 100 Senators and all 435 Congressmen for less than eleven cents each - that's right - only 11 cents!
Isn't it time to be a modern day Paul Revere and send a loud message to our hired hands in D.C.?
Why not do it today? America needs your help. Do it now from the comfort of your home or office. Be an urban activist!
Fax Blast Capitol Hill: WWW.FAXDC.COM
Our children must be given a chance to grow up in an America that is strong and free. A nation that is convulsing in social turmoil is not a healthy nation but rather a breeding ground for the loss of freedom. We must not lose our national identity!
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TO: (Elected Official) Washington , D.C.
NO AMNESTY!
PLEASE DO NOT BE TAKEN IN BY THE ILLEGAL ALIEN MARCHERS IN OUR STREETS.
Dear [LAST NAME] (Elected Official)
I am asking you to prevent the takeover of America by enforcing U.S. immigration laws, refusing to reward illegal aliens with citizenship, and by placing severe penalties on employers who hire illegal aliens.
WE THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT AMNESTY IN ANY FORM!
You took an oath to protect us from invasion. Will you?
Many claim our immigration system is broken. But the American people realize it is not the system that is broken, but the will of some on Capitol Hill that is broken. Uncontrolled illegal immigration is nothing less than a "Trojan Horse" invasion disguised as a path to citizenship invitation.
WE, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT AMNESTY.
At the current rate of invasion (about 5 million per year, and growing) by the year 2025 there will be more illegal aliens occupying U.S. territory that there will be legal citizen voters. The consequences will be staggering, as politicians from the highest levels of government right down to our local city councils cringe under the intimidation of over 150 million illegal aliens demanding citizenship and voting rights. You must stop the problem now by refusing to be part of any amnesty scheme no matter how lucrative it may seem to you.
"We the People" voted you into office; don't cater to foreign nationals and greedy corporate interests. Power Brokers bought and paid for by foreign governments are trying to strong-arm you into passing Z-Visa program that will harm the U.S. Citizen and reward illegal foreign nationals, a.k.a., illegal aliens, with citizenship.
Congress must not reward illegal aliens with citizenship!
There are many proposed bills that you will be considering in the near future, please remember that "We the People" are watching, and rewarding with our vote, those who protect the sovereignty of the United States of America . Those who betray "We the People" by voting for any amnesty bill will be punished by our vote in the next election. Some on Capitol Hill are a pen-stroke away from destroying our beloved nation by giving it away to those who broke the law coming here and continue to break the law by staying here. If we are to remain a nation "governed by the rule of law" shouldn't we actually enforce those laws?
PLEASE APPLY YOUR INFLUENCE TO OPPOSE ANY AMNESTY BILL.
There will be fat cats and career lobbyists that will try to entice you with hollow promises and try to convince you that a sham amnesty bill designed to reward illegal Foreign Nationals is actually healthy for this nation! Don't believe the global elitist; their agenda will destroy our sovereignty.
PLEASE DON'T GIVE AWAY AMERICA . WE THE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING!
Sincerely,
[YOUR NAME]
[Address, City, State, Zip]
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Let's See That Immigration Reform Bill, Senate Republicans Say -- 04/30/2007
http://www.cnsnews.com:80/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200704/POL20070430a.html
What would you say if the Government, through the Department Of Homeland Security, IMMEDIATELY made $24 Million IN GRANTS available to up-grade security on our High School and College Campuses? Great Idea huh!!!
Well, NOT Today!!! That $24 Million is only available to Non-Profit Islamist Organizations (Yes, the same type organizations that funnel money to terrorists.) to "Harden" and Up-grade Security on THEIR MOSQUES, both in and outside the Continental Boundaries of the U.S. (Yes, the same type used as refuge, ammo dumps and ambush points.)
Just another example of where this Governments priorities happen to be in relation to National Security.
You don't have to take my word for it... Read the Article linked below.
Northeast Intelligence Network
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com:80/
Better Link: http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/CAIR050107
Also of interest.......
CAIR: Grievance Theater Not Getting Good Numbers
They are working really hard to take over America... Thank God for the people that are investigating and reporting!
Click here for details
Well if your are going to hate the Liberals..what special place do you put a president into...one that is breaking his back and EVERY Constitutional Law.. to protect those 'invaders'..?
I never thought that I could find more contempt then what is in me for a child molestor about another person...
But the people inviting barbarians into your living rooms and the supporters of those people rapidly are taking the place of those other cretins.
A child molestor will adversly 20-40 children during the course of his evil....
These people are destroying ALL your childrens lives.
What am I missing that is being edited out constantly, from WagonWheels posts?
I had one post deleted on the general forum,.........the reason, I still don't understand! I believe I made the comment that the soldier in question, may have been a "black" muslim, as we have had several instances of,.....seems like the PC goes a long way.
Guess we are in favor of the second amendment,.......just not the first!
Guess we are in favor of the second amendment,.......just not the first!
i think it was Heinlein who said it best about absurdity of the whole idea of inalienable rights is absurd. the only freedom you have is that of ideas, for now.
If the guy is trying to sell something,.......cancel his account! That obviously is not what the issue is. I wondered myself, after seeing the "blast fax" links.
Me, and the post I was referring to,..........I still have no clue as to what I said wrong. Didn't use the "N" word,..........said "black muslim"! Someone deleted it, probably not pickenup, but another "moderator".
What the heck is the purpose of this board, if it is going to be just like everything in the general country currently? "black muslim",.......is that simple statement, "hate speech"? What kind of idiots are we, if we don't realize that they exist within this country. Not many white folks convert to Islam, unless they are white women, that choose to be with another race. I have no problem with that,........it is not my life, it is their choice. I know many black people that are hard working, and I have no issue whatsoever with them,.........but I DO with the welfare receipients, and the numbers of them that are "muslims", calling me a "white devil", and I should be killed.
Feel free to wipe my account, if this is something that can't be handled here!
I just got back and saw your post. pickenup hasn't deleted anything. He is just kind enough to pickenup my slack and apparently has been fixing the links. I've just not gotten around to asking what I screwed up yet. Maybe he'll tell me now.
I don't know what the issue is, but sounds like it could be a case of "political correctness". however, be it as it may, this particular website and this particular forum is owned and controlled by private enterprise and it's their private property and they are free to do as they like. we might or might not agree with it, but we don't really possess any rights here, we're guests, who abide by the rules set by the rightful owners of this resource. we're all free to move to another place, create our own, or use theirs at their discretion, and so on [:)] back in the day, and even now, some are still using mailing lists, especially paranoid, like myself, have all of their email signed and encrypted, that's the only place where one can be free to say anything about anything and we don't have long before that disappears as well.
that said, i don't agree with any censorship be it private enterprise or public (owned by public) forum.
Guess we are in favor of the second amendment,.......just not the first!
YOU accuse ME of something like this,
just because YOU see ME edit SOMEONE ELSE'S post????? [:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!]
Maybe YOU should get your FACTS straight before you start jumping on MY chit.
If you don't like the way things are run in "THIS" forum, you can LEAVE any time you want. Don't let the door hit you in the * on the way out!!!!
Next, it's NON OF YOUR BUSINESS if "I" edit someones post.
If it's yours, I "may" tell you why, I may not. Most times someone already knows why it happens.
The owners of this site will not allow certain words, etc. to be used here, and it's my job to clean up anything that needs it. For the most part, common decency rules here, along with a little common sense. You break the rules enough, you get kicked off the site. You might want to read them, they are in the top left corner of EVERY PAGE under "Review our Posting Guidelines" After reading the rules, you may understand this comment, which is directed at YOU, Marc1301.
"That's strike ONE." [:(!]
FYI,
I don't have ANYTHING to do with ANY other forum. All I can DO in other forums is post there, same as you.
quote:Originally posted by Wagon Wheel
He is just kind enough to pickenup my slack and apparently has been fixing the links.
Exactly, just fixin your links so they don't stretch the page, like we agreed on.
You keep posting them, I'll keep fixin them. [:D]
I DO appreciate the time you take, to research this information.
THANKS
We all serve here at the pleasure of Pickenup. The man earns his paycheck in this forum, which by the way is $.00. He could be moderating the Fishing forum, but I hear he is fond of herding cats and rehabilitating delinquents, therefore finds us folk hardly a challenge.
[:D]
I didn't know they stretched; it did not look that way in the preview. Actually I thought they just didn't work and you corrected that. At any rate, I am the one who should thank you. I sincerely appreciate the fact that you have my back on this and make my posts more "User Friendly".
That is pretty much the extent of what I asked about your area. I never saw his posts stretched, so therefore never knew you were fixing them. I would see the "latest" post by you, and think there was something new, but there wasn't, and then I started seeing the edits were causing the "phantom" new post. I was curious,......nothing more, on your end here. I have read the rules,........and am not a "moron". I realize this is a private site, and the owners can do whatever they wish. They have made several hundred dollars in fees from me, and others that I have sent to the auction side.
You should have seen that I even said, "most likely another moderator", on the other post, which is what really got me, and is where the "first amendment" comment came from. I really didn't know that the term "black muslim" was considered a violation of the terms of service,..........I have seen it used many times on these forums. I was a little shocked to see a tame post deleted because it had those 2 words in it. Guess that will have to remain a mystery.
As far as losing your temper with me through "cyberspace" goes,.........it really is not necessary. If you don't want me here,.......even if I simply have rubbed you the wrong way,......then as I posted before, simply remove my account. You don't need to give me "demerits". I am sorry for the misunderstanding between you, and I,.....but will never know why the other post was deleted, and that is not your problem!
Complaints or criticism about these message forums or their moderators.
Questions about why a post was deleted. This page explains why.
Profanity, nudity, vulgarity, racism, etc. ,.........must be the deleted post. Guess I should ask that moderator how I need to phrase a 'black muslim", that is not rascist. This is to show you that I do know why your post was aimed at me.
Your more than welcome to post in this forum. For the most part, I like what you have to say. I don't want to run off anyone that is crazy enough to read and post in "this" forum. [;)][:D][:D]
But when it looks like you are accusing "ME" of not caring about an amendment (ANY of them) it ticks me off. (I take that as a personal insult) Since your post was "started" talking about me editing a post, then finished with that statement. I could only assume you were commenting about how I run "this" forum. Since it was not aimed at me, I will offer my apology. But please, don't talk about how they run "their" forums in here.
Concerning rubbing me the wrong way, unless your name calling, or personally insulting someone, I pretty much let things ride. We have had some pretty heated debates in this forum. One of the reasons I like "this" forum, is because we CAN have heated debates and "most all" of the members that post in here, do it in a mature manner. If "I" post something you don't' agree with, DON'T be afraid to call me on it. Ask me why, or to back it up. I'll do the same to you. Fair enough?
Yes, there are certain "overall" rules for these forums. Different moderators run it different ways, and I don't always agree with all of them. Sometimes I even DIS-agree with them. (well, ONE of them anyway) But that's another story. I can't say, nor would I ask them, why they do what they do. If a member has a question, they can email the mod and ask it. Putting it out in the forums, usually ends up with it getting deleted.
As far as saying "black muslim" until I get word from higher up, I see no problem with it. The "N" word (among others) is not allowed, as you already know.
As for editing the links, some people have their screen setting different than others. While some links/pictures don't stretch the page for one, it does for another. I want to make this forum (as Wagon Wheel puts it) as "User Friendly" as possible. I want people to read/post here, and don't want to let a page that is hard to read, run them off. Personally, I HATE scrolling back and forth so I can read a page.
With explanations given on both sides, I hope we can be back on neutral ground. Well, not quite on neutral ground, you and I seem to be on the same side with most topics. So I'll say we are on one side, looking at the neutral ground with "them" on the other side. [:o)]
I will admit, like I believe that Highball has, that sometimes I am not very good at putting strings of thought clearly together. I was guilty of that with my previous posts. I never thought that you were not in favor of "free speech",.....and can understand your reaction when you thought I was referring to you.
I understand the TOS, and am not going to "nitpick" over them,......I will simply e-mail the moderator, if a post gets deleted, that IMHO, never violated anything,.......I get your drift here,......"nuff" said!
Thanks for straightening out some of our convoluted posts, and I do realize you do this for nothing! I admire you for that.
We both obviously have a "temper", and with grown "real" men, that can be settled with simple explanations, as it appears to have been done here. My issue that "ticked" me off, was the other post,......and that was what my "tirade" was about. Once again,....."nuff said".
Yes, we are largely on the same ground, and I intend to follow this thread, and post accordingly, as long as I can.
Take Care![;)]
Actually very useful...it seems to tick people off. Mad people let their guard down...and the metal a man is made of is revealed.
Steel...or just junk pot-metal...??? [:D][:D]
Didn't see no pot-metal, above...
U.S. House of Representatives Roll Call Votes:
110th Congress Roll Votes:
You Can Check them all from here. I just like all the proof I can muster, for the record, in case it gets deleted, stolen from the archives or just moved to someones Office and Lost(?). Do I Sound Like I Suspect Corruption In Government?
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/index.asp
Final Roll Vote 296:
H RES 364 YEA-AND-NAY 3-May-2007 11:24 AM
QUESTION: On Ordering the Previous Question
Total Yeas - 217
Total Nays - 196
Not Voting - 19
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll296.xml
Final Roll Vote 297:
H RES 364 RECORDED VOTE 3-May-2007 11:34 AM
QUESTION: On Agreeing to the Resolution
Total Yeas - 213
Total Nays - 199
Not Voting - 20
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll297.xml
Final Roll Vote 298:
H R 1592 YEA-AND-NAY 3-May-2007 1:38 PM
QUESTION: On Motion to Recommit with Instructions
Total Yeas - 189
Total Nays - 217
Not Voting - 17
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll298.xml
Final Roll Vote 299:
H R 1592 YEA-AND-NAY 3-May-2007 1:46 PM
QUESTION: On Passage
Total Yeas - 237
Total Nays - 180
Not Voting - 16
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll299.xml
He may get away with stickin' me the finger today. However, I don't take stuff like that lying down. He may think he is secure in that seat, but friend, I don't get even, I get ahead. This WILL BE his LAST term. He barely got re-elected last time but we got rid of Cynthia Mc Kinney from the 4th district. It just takes time and effort and I knew then she needed to go. Now I KNOW he needs to go. There are others on my list as well but he just made #1 on my Scat list. Just to close to home for me!!!
"I think the days of Congress rubber-stamping any and every idea cooked up by the administration are over," Leahy said yesterday at a hearing. "You have the nation's governors, Republicans and Democrats, who say they want to have a voice in this. Should they be ignored, or is this a case where the federal government knows better than the states?"
If you are not familiar with this boondoggle you should review it.
Click here to read the story
Leahy, Others Speak Out Against New ID Standards - washingtonpost.com
"I think the days of Congress rubber-stamping any and every idea cooked up by the administration are over," Leahy said yesterday at a hearing. "You have the nation's governors, Republicans and Democrats, who say they want to have a voice in this. Should they be ignored, or is this a case where the federal government knows better than the states?"
If you are not familiar with this boondoggle you should review it.
Click here to read the story
Just put the mark of the beast on us and get it over with. [:(!]
Spying On The Weather:
Clearly demonstrating that they cannot be trusted with the nation's security, House Democrats are considering an Intelligence Authorization bill that calls for an assessment of the effects of climate change on national security. Yes, you read that right, climate change.
With existential threats such as al-Qa'ida, North Korea, Red China and Iran lurking around the world, one would think that the nation's limited intelligence resources could be put to better use than studying SUV exhaust. This same misuse of defense-related programs occurred during the Clinton years, too. We wonder what clues to 9/11 were missed while satellites were photographing polar bears in the Arctic.
Describing the climate study as "cutting edge," Intelligence panel Chairman Silvestre Reyes (D-TX) said the idea is one of several changes his party has made to intelligence policy. "This is an area that we may be vulnerable in terms of potential terrorists," Reyes declared.
The office of Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) wondered, "It's hard to imagine how anyone could believe that climate change represents a more clear and present danger to the United States than radical Islamic terrorists armed with bombs, but that's essentially what Democrats have concluded in this bill."
Indeed, should the U.S. ever again have to answer the question, "Was this attack preventable?" the answer will be that instead of funding the intelligence services to evaluate and warn of direct national threats, funds were diverted to study climate change.
Don't you feel safer already?
More on Jihad coming to the streets of America | Northeast Intelligence Network
Seven more arrested in St. Louis area weapons case:
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com:80/Jihad051707
The Original Article:
The case originated with the arrest of Mousa M. ABUELAWI, 22, of Creve Coeur, MO on December 29, 2006.
Eight Muslim men in St. Louis charged with buying automatic weapons and explosives.
"We're going to war" --Thaer Abde SUMAD, defendant
The "insider" reports are very troubling and are purposely being downplayed by official sources and go largely unreported in the media.
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/Jihad050307
TAQIYYA:
Taqiyya or dissimulation, is a form of deception, which Muslims use to conceal the truth. This Islamic concept to deceive an enemy (i.e., non-Muslim, infidel, *, etc.) is not only a common practice, but is considered a virtue among Muslims. It is used by all Muslims, not just Shias, as Sunnis will assert.
Keep this in mind when you hear Muslims condemn `terrorism' (make them define terrorism. It will rarely include Jihadis attacks against non-Muslims, especially those from the West). Keep this in mind when Muslims say Islam forbids the killing of innocents (non-Muslims are not considered innocent).
Remember what Muhammad said:
"Lying is wrong, except in three things: the lie of a man to his wife to make her content with him; a lie to an enemy, for war is deception; or a lie to settle trouble between people"
And the Koran:
"And when ye go forth in the land, it is no sin for you to curtail (your) worship if ye fear that those who disbelieve may attack you. In truth the disbelievers are an open enemy to you." (Surah 4:101)
"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them." (Surah 3:28)
The level of deception here is ASTRONOMICAL!!!! Several of the Senators listed below have proposed Amendments to "Strengthen" this Bill and make it acceptable to the American people. Apparently, as nothing more than a ruse!! With only two exceptions, The Dorgan and Vitter Amendments (Both of which where defeated, by a wide margin) all proposed amendments have been denied introduction. Shelved, set aside, never to be debated or even considered!!!!! When they come back on the 4th of June, A vote is already scheduled, without further debate!!!! We MUST ACT NOW or watch them FLUSH NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY, Pass this AMNESTY BILL, all-the-while, lining their pockets with Lobbyist DOLLARS!! 2008 won't come soon enough for me.
We Now Know Which Senators Want Amnesty.
How and When did it Happen?
A very clever amendment introduced by Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) on Thursday, May 24th, unmasked those Senators that have been playing both sides of the Amnesty charade. Sen. Vitter offered an amendment that would have stripped out all provisions to reward nearly all the 20 million illegal aliens with permanent legal status. The amendment sent the normally sedate and elderly Senators clumsily scrambling for cover. Senator Lamar Alexander tried his best to help his Republican colleagues dodge having to show their true color as Amnestistas by attacking the amendment, but to no avail.
So here are the Senators that are now known to support Amnesty while feigning to oppose it. If your state is on this list, you have your work cut out for you. Please do not let any of the Senators off the hook. They voted NO on the Vitter amendment. Go to www.DOLZ.com/call and start calling them.
Alaska: Murkowski (R-AK), Nay Stevens (R-AK), Nay
Arizona: Kyl (R-AZ), Nay McCain (R-AZ), Nay
Arkansas: Lincoln (D-AR), Nay
California: Boxer (D-CA), Nay Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
Colorado: Yea Salazar (D-CO), Nay
Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT), Nay Lieberman (ID-CT), Nay
Delaware: Biden (D-DE), Nay Carper (D-DE), Nay
Florida: Martinez (R-FL), Nay Nelson (D-FL), Nay
Georgia: Chambliss (R-GA), Nay Isakson (R-GA), Nay
Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Nay Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Idaho: Craig (R-ID), Nay
Illinois: Durbin (D-IL), Nay Obama (D-IL), Nay
Indiana: Bayh (D-IN), Nay Lugar (R-IN), Nay
Iowa: Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Maine: Collins (R-ME), Nay Snowe (R-ME), Nay
Maryland: Cardin (D-MD), Nay Mikulski (D-MD), Nay
Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA), Nay Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Nay Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Minnesota: Coleman (R-MN), Nay Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
Mississippi: Lott (R-MS), Nay
Nebraska: Hagel (R-NB) Nay
Nevada: Ensign (R-NV), Nay Reid (D-NV), Nay
New Hampshire: Gregg (R-NH), Nay
New Jersey: Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Nay Domenici (R-NM), Nay
New York: Clinton (D-NY), Nay
North Carolina: Burr (R-NC), Nay
North Dakota: Conrad (D-ND), Nay
Ohio: Brown (D-OH), Nay Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
Oregon: Smith (R-OR), Nay Wyden (D-OR), Nay
Pennsylvania: Casey (D-PA), Nay Specter (R-PA), Nay
Rhode Island: Reed (D-RI), Nay Whitehouse (D-RI), Nay
South Carolina: Graham (R-SC), Nay
Texas: Cornyn (R-TX), Nay Hutchison (R-TX), Nay
Utah: Bennett (R-UT), Nay
Vermont: Leahy (D-VT), Nay Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Virginia: Warner (R-VA), Nay Webb (D-VA), Nay
Washington: Cantwell (D-WA), Nay Murray (D-WA), Nay
You can tell that many Senators believe that you represent a major bloc of voters because 3 of the Democrats who voted for the amnesty last year but voted against it today are up for re-election next year: DEMOCRAT HEROS??; Senators Pryor (D-Ark.), Landrieu (D-La.), Baucus (D-Mont.).
WHAT CAN YOU DO? What Must You Do?
The most important action you can take is CALL these senators. Call every time there is an amendment for consideration. Since there will be many amendments considered daily you are justified in calling many, many times per day. It is VERY IMPORTANT that you know your City and Zip Code when you call. The absolute best place to find the right telephone number for the senators and the committees is here: www.dolz.com/call
For more information on how to wage "citizenship" in defeating this amnesty bill, contact the following websites for information and tools.
www.dolz.com/call
www.NumbersUSA.com
www.MinutemanHQ.com
www.ALIPAC.us
www.DOLZ.com
The amnesty bill will be voted on Monday, June 4th. Immediately after reading this article, get on the phone. Call, call and call again. Call on the weekend; call during office hours and outside of office hours. Call from your car, call from the commuter train, call from where you are on vacation. If the cell numbers are listed in www.dolz.com/call then call the senators cell numbers. Call the staffers at the office and at their cell numbers. Call the committees where these senators serve. Call them at home. Call, Call and Call. We will not be able to UNDO amnesty. You have to stop it now.
When this is over, we will concentrate on rewarding those senators that put our sovereignty, the American worker and the tax payer first and we will work acidulously to defeat those senators that have plotted to push the amnesty bill.
Tony Dolz
www.dolz.com/call
www.dolz.com
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=28070
Citizenship:
The provisions in Section 1 have been interpreted to the effect that children born on United States soil, with very few exceptions, are U.S. citizens. This type of guarantee-legally termed jus soli, or "right of the territory"- does not exist in most of Western Europe, Asia, India, Sri Lanka or the Middle East, although it is part of English common law and is common in the Americas.
However, the phrase and subject to the jurisdiction thereof indicates that there are some exceptions to the universal rule that birth on U.S. soil automatically grants citizenship. The following persons born in the United States are not considered "subject to the jurisdiction [of the United States]", and thus do not qualify for automatic citizenship under the Fourteenth Amendment:
Children born to foreign diplomats;
Children born to enemy forces in hostile occupation of the United States;
Children born to Native Americans who are members of tribes not taxed (these were later given full citizenship by the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924).
The following persons born in the United States are explicitly citizens:
Children born to US citizens;
Children born to aliens who are lawfully inside the United States (resident or visitor), with the intention of amicably interacting with its people and obeying its laws.
(I read that to mean that if you are an ILLEGAL ALIEN, actually broke our IMMIGRATION LAWS to get here, The 14th Amendment DOES NOT Grant CITIZENSHIP to your "Anchor Baby"!!!!)
The Supreme Court's ruling in Plyler v. Doe[3] stated that illegal immigrants are "within the jurisdiction" of the states in which they reside, and added in a footnote that "no plausible distinction with respect to Fourteenth Amendment 'jurisdiction' can be drawn between resident aliens whose entry into the United States was lawful, and resident aliens whose entry was unlawful." Some legislators, reacting to illegal immigration, have proposed that this be changed, either through legislation or a constitutional amendment. If the Supreme Court adheres to current interpretations of the Fourteenth Amendment, then it may be that only an amendment would be effective to bar the children of illegal immigrants from citizenship, although Plyler did not explicitly address the question of children born in the United States to illegal aliens or other non-citizens; the children dealt with in Plyler were born outside the U.S.
The Fourteenth Amendment does not explicitly provide any procedure for loss of United States citizenship. Loss of U.S. citizenship is possible only under the following circumstances:
Fraud in the naturalization process. Technically this is not loss of citizenship, but rather a voiding of the purported naturalization and a declaration that the immigrant never was a U.S. citizen.
Voluntary relinquishment of citizenship. This may be accomplished either through renunciation procedures specially established by the State Department or through other actions which demonstrate an intention to give up U.S. citizenship.
Social Security 'Totalization' Agreement with Mexico Would Cost $207 Billion, New Study Says
Who needs Foreign Enemies to topple us and our way of life when our OWN GOVERNMENT is working so swiftly and effectively to destroy us from the inside!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1839769/posts
Martinez is not even worth writing,.........have done it many times.
I have expressed my disgust with his involvment, and basically told him, that I will do whatever I can to see him not get re-elected.
No response,.........they don't care, they are intent on shoving it down our "willing" throats, until we barf it back up.
Sorry for the vivid description.
Welcome to the forum.
Sorry to disappoint you, but to my knowledge, the Postal Service Refused to deliver/forward them!!!!
U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), Say Goodbye to National Defense!!!
Connect the dots and it all comes together..... We've been sold down the river by our own government!!!!
If you just don't have time to read this article now, be sure to scroll down and read the last sentence...
http://www.aim.org/aim_column/5501_0_3_0_C/
The bulk of people still voting, however, lack simple thinking skills..they still believe in the tooth fairy..fuzzy emotional processes that pass for 'thought' in those poor creatures.
They are getting the government they deserve..rotten, corrupt, sold-out cartoon characters that front for the Devil..all because the masses refuse to face facts.
On the surface this may look good to most people that discover it's existence. A plan to maintain the "Constitutionally Based" Federal Government. The skeptic in me sees this as yet another maneuver to establish his goal of a NAU and Global Government. http://www.aim.org/aim_column/5501_0_3_0_C/
This directive gives Bush "Unprecedented Power" without Congressional over site. (But, That IS ASSUMING That Congress Would Be On The Peoples Side.)
http://www.rationalreview.com/content/30130
Consider these facts:
We already know he has made secret deals with Mexico and Canada for an Open Border NAU. (North American Union).
We know he wants This Immigration Reform Bill and Amnesty, at any cost, even National Security and National Sovereignty!! If this Bill is so good for America and these innocent, hardworking "Illegal Aliens" pose no threat to National Security explain this: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55923
With the "Patriot Act", and all the other Invasions of Personal Privacy and Data Collection laws or directives that have been implemented in the name of the "War On Terror", anyone may/could fall victim at the mere whim of a Government Official!! Consider H.R. 1592 the most dangerous precursor to Orwellian type thought policing that has ever come down the pike. And now it is the LAW.
Consider what will happen with the passage of:
H.R. 1022, H.R. 297 OR S. 1237 (This Bill Extends "Beyond NICS & Brady")
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200705/CUL20070502b.html
We already know Bush will sign the "Assault Weapons Ban" (H.R. 1022), whenever it is presented. We are no longer an "Agrarian Society" so the number of pitchforks, hoes, hand sickles and scythes are not a threat. Broom handles or vacuum cleaner hoses are rather ineffective and a baseball bat has limited range. Therefore I must ask; IF there is a REAL Terrorist threat, and I believe there is, OR; we should expect trouble from a massive influx of criminal elements pouring across our (open) borders: Why is the Federal Government trying so desperately to disarm the Law-Abiding Citizens and leave them defenseless against what they themselves are identifying as a threat to our personal security??? There are far fewer Criminals than law-abiding gun owners. I would assume if you can use the law to Legally confiscate guns from the non-criminal element of society, any resistance to the governmental controls would be manageable. I have several of my own thoughts about this fa?ade, but I am sure by now your getting the picture. 'This way to the camps!' http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55925
I think everyone here will agree that our present Government needs to be reformed and the system of Checks and Balances enforced. Therefore when a bill that is advertised in the following manner; H.R. 984: To provide for reform in the operations of the executive branch, it sounds good doesn't it???? That was my first impression when I fist heard about it in March. The MSM lauded it as a good thing. I had to agree. Regrettably, I let it pass without much more thought. How many of you did likewise??
tr Fox: I still disagree on the long-term track record of the NRA. However, as I stated before, they do a good service with their Alerts, I do give credit where credit is due and they HAVE taken a stance against and exposed H.R. 984 for what it really is: A backdoor assault on BOTH the 1st AND 2nd Amendment Rights of EVERY AMERICAN Citizen that Disagrees with and OR communicates disagreement with any planned or potential Government policy or legislation!!!
As I have stated before, the 2nd is an easy target and with it they will chip away at the rest. This bill, DECEPTIVELY LABELED, is a GROSS example of what I was referring to. I urge each and Every CITIZEN to review this proposed legislation and do what ever you can to kill it!!!
Review it for yourself here:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-984
House bill H.R. 1592 and Senate bill S. 1105
This is not the way to stop Hate Crimes. This is a way to stop Freedom of Speech! Is this an example of their interpretation of separation of church and state??? Or is it just another attack on the 1st Amendment????
If they take away "our" rights, we all lose. Many do not see it that way but little by little our constitutional rights are being chipped away! We should have freedom of speech...freedom to express our beliefs.
The "socialists" that have been elected are determined to destroy our constitutional rights and lead us, further yet, down the road of immorality! Making criminals of our religious leaders and anyone With Moral Standards is just plain WRONG and UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!
Please read the Action Alert ... I signed the Petition.
http://www.afa.net/hatecrime2.asp
Also See:
AFA - American Family Association - Promoting Traditional Family Values http://www.afa.net/
Fed up with trash on TV? Join:
www.OneMillionMoms.com and www.OneMillionDads.com now.
Should anyone out there get PO'ed enough to take a more active stand against an Out Of Control Government and let these ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE know HOW YOU FEEL about The LONG LIST Of BAD LEGISLATION and Infringement of our rights that they are trying to pass, AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, just so they can advance THEIR AGENDA, and; to say they have done something, even if it's Not For The Overall Good Of The Country and It's Citizens!!!! By the time you get to the bottom of this "far from complete list" you may decide to utilize the following link!!! http://www.outsourcecongress.org/outsource/congress/schstaffers.html
SOME of the things we should all be concerned about are:
Naturally - S-1348 The "Immigration Reform Act Of 2007" That they seem to be intent upon passing with only 20% of the peoples approval.
Get This: Lott said on Tuesday that the phones to his offices in Mississippi and Washington have been jammed by calls from people who oppose the bill. But few callers, he said, are from Mississippi. He indicated their efforts are futile. "To think you are going to intimidate a senator, any senator, that way," he said, adding that he's not influenced by those who've urged him to change his position.
And with that said, watch out for the backdoor effort: S-1639
S-1639 - Introduced by Kennedy as Immigration Reform, It's SECRETLY LOADED with what can only be interpreted as Gun Control Legislation. See GOA Alert. Dated Friday, June 22, 2007 ( http://www.gunowners.org )
Update: This one may be dead - But don't count on it not showing up again!!
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:SN01639:@@@X
The Truth Behind Illegal Immigration & Amnesty:
http://capitolhillcoffeehouse.com/more.php?id=3445_0_1_0_M
H.R.2640: To improve the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, Introduced on the 11th:
6/13/2007--Passed House without amendment. By A Voice Vote.
6/14/2007: Received in the Senate and Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.
HR 297: Provides, in the form of grants, about $1 billion to the states to send more names to the FBI for inclusion in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System [NICS]. This Bill is not dead yet!! Should 2640 fail, expect it to be put on the fast track just as they did with 2640!!! Latest Major Action: 2/2/2007 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.
S. 1237 - Goes "Beyond NICS & Brady" - Advertised As: A bill to increase public safety by permitting the Attorney General to deny the transfer of firearms or the issuance of firearms and explosives licenses to known or suspected dangerous terrorists. The bill has been referred to the following committees:
Senate Judiciary. See Links For More Info.
Posted - 05/02/2007: 07:54:29 AM
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=245154
Update: The Nightmare Scenario This Bill Will Produce!!
Posted - 06/25/2007: 04:01:46 AM
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=251969
H.R. 984 for what it really is: A backdoor assault on BOTH the 1st AND 2nd Amendment Rights of EVERY AMERICAN Citizen that Disagrees with and OR communicates disagreement with any planned or potential Government policy or legislation!!! The bill has been referred to the following committees:
House Oversight and Government Reform
H.R. 1022: The "Assault Weapons Ban" From Hell. The same one that covers your Hunting and HOME DEFENSE Firearms. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1022
Last Action: Mar 19, 2007: Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security. DON'T LET THIS FOOL YOU! H.R. 2640 Went From Introduction To House Passage In 2 Days!!!!
H.R. 1592: Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2007
This bill has been passed in the House, May 3rd 2007. The bill now goes on to be voted on in the Senate.
Last Action: May 7, 2007: Received in the Senate and Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.
The Senate Version Senate bill S. 1105 Latest Major Action: 4/12/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.
And then there is the National ID Boondoggle: The REAL ID Act. (Real ID Act, H.R. 1268, P.L. 109-13, enacted by Congress in 2005). Here I will refer you to the GOA Alert Dated Friday, June 22, 2007. First, section 205 of the bill could, in the hands of an anti-gun administration, PUT EVERY MAJOR GUN SHOP OUT OF BUSINESS. (Please see GOA ( http://www.gunowners.org ) alert, dated May 23, for more information on this.) I suggest you check the status in your state!!!
And I wouldn't put it past them to try and Repeal the 2nd Amendment. It has been suggested!!
Repeal Second Amendment, Analyst Advises
http://www.cnsnews.com:80/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200706/CUL20070612a.html
You may want to review:
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=244695
Some thing you may want to support if you can find it!!
See GOA Alert Dated Wednesday, May 24, 2006 (If anyone knows what happened to this, Please let me know. I still can't find any reference to it anywhere.)
Firearm Transfer Improvement Act: "Pro-gun Rep. Rick Renzi (R-AZ) is getting set to chip away at the mountain of gun control laws and regulations that are hampering gun owners in this country. Rep. Renzi Set To Introduce Bill Expediting Out-Of-State Gun Purchases -- Ask your congressman to cosponsor the bill." Like I said, I can't find any reference to it!!
And then there is H.R.1096: ...... Need I Say Any More????
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1st Amendment Rights???
Right's Reign on Talk Radio Called 'Structural Imbalance'
By Randy Hall
CNSNews.com Staff Writer/Editor
June 22, 2007
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200706/NAT20070622a.html
IF you don't know what they're referring to above, I have "Cliff Notes" Below!!
DEAR FELLOW MEDIA WATCHDOGS: January 22, 2007CLIFF'S NOTES By Cliff Kincaid
ACCURACY IN MEDIA BLEW THE LID OFF THE SO-CALLED "MEDIA Reform" movement IN jANUARY.
http://www.aim.org/aim_report_cliffs_notes/5229_0_4_0/
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National Sovereignty????
Make up your own mind, but as for me, in NO WAY should we sign!!! Combine this action with the plan for an Open Border North American Union (NAU) and what do you Think the REAL PLAN IS/Would Be for Signing The U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). Just another piece of the plan the needs to be stopped IMHO!!!
Experts Differ Over Wisdom of Joining Sea Treaty -- 06/25/2007
Conservatives are not convinced. Frank Gaffney, president of the Center for Security Policy, said during Friday's discussion at the Heritage Foundation that the Bush administration is "championing a treaty that I believe will be extremely harmful to our sovereignty."
The treaty would create a "world government socialist enterprise," Gaffney argued -- a "supra-national government ... that will only grow as it gains revenues as it gains the authority to rule the world."
"It will certainly -- as these things usually do -- end up impinging upon U.S. interests, certainly our freedom of action and our sovereignty. We should remain firmly in opposition to this treaty," he said, stressing particularly section XI.
http://www.cnsnews.com:80/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200706/NAT20070625a.html
Did I miss something here?
Nope WW, I had a post relative to your posting that he responded to, but I decided it wasn't worth the effort for the discussion that would have ensued and deleted mine. His just got caught in the middle when mine went bye bye.
well, very sneaky of you, dlrjj...[}:)]
tsneakyr:
Did I miss something here?
Yes, I'll edit my post, it's out of place now.