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Crossbows
iluvguns
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I've had a handicap permit to use a crossbow for close to a decade. Didn't do much last year due to weather, work, and somewhat dis-interest. I'm shooting a Barnett Revolution which is fairly old school these days. It always was extremely accurate close up but unimpressive beyond 30 yards.
This year I decided to change it up and bought a 3x scope. Wow, what a difference. I didn't realize how vague the red dot sight picture really was. Yesterday afternoon I zeroed the scope and shot a few bolts at 40 yards. Definitely won't be shooting multiple broadheads at the same target spot. Three shots from 40 yards using a standing rest over a tripod inside 2 1/2" with 2 bolts' vanes touching is the best I've been able to accomplish EVER.
Is it fair to allow everyone to hunt with a crossbow? I didn't make the rules and actually feel it isn't fair. I went through the steps , got a Doctor's slip, and requested permission to use the crossbow. Like flipping the switch MDC granted everyone the same allowance. MDC justified the change as "allowing more people to bow hunt" while cutting the number of animals each bow hunter can harvest. Sounds more like MDC wants to sell more tags.
This year I decided to change it up and bought a 3x scope. Wow, what a difference. I didn't realize how vague the red dot sight picture really was. Yesterday afternoon I zeroed the scope and shot a few bolts at 40 yards. Definitely won't be shooting multiple broadheads at the same target spot. Three shots from 40 yards using a standing rest over a tripod inside 2 1/2" with 2 bolts' vanes touching is the best I've been able to accomplish EVER.
Is it fair to allow everyone to hunt with a crossbow? I didn't make the rules and actually feel it isn't fair. I went through the steps , got a Doctor's slip, and requested permission to use the crossbow. Like flipping the switch MDC granted everyone the same allowance. MDC justified the change as "allowing more people to bow hunt" while cutting the number of animals each bow hunter can harvest. Sounds more like MDC wants to sell more tags.
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I'll hunt this year with my compound but was wondering about switching. Gettin older and harder to draw 55lbs when it's colder.
Thanks,
Jim
Our hunting regulations are changing next year and I'm toying with the idea of a crossbow... Any suggestions????
I was a recurve shooter for years, then a compound, but a nagging shoulder injury has ended my archery pleasure.
I still want to hunt up close and personal, so I think a crossbow might work for me...
First...what do all you "regular" bow hunters think about using crossbows in the regular archery season?
Second...what is a good, solid crossbow to buy for hunting?
Thanks!
as for your second question, i dont' know that much about crossbows at all. i know that the one's people i do know use are about 150lbs of draw.
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I live in a special regulations area, which means, there are way too many deer and the game commission has attempted to get as many hunters in the woods as possible. They have changed the safety zone requirement from 150 yards, to 50 yards(when hunting with a bow), additional hunting days, seasons, and most recently, they allow crossbows to be used during ANY deer season. Even during the primitive flintlock season, hunters can harvest a deer with a crossbow.
Do I lkike it? Well, if we need more deer killed around here, I have no problem with it. But would I approve of using a crossbow during an archery season, just "because" crossbows are bows? Hell no.
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
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Gun bans have never accomplished anything, other than to create a safe working environment for criminals.
its all about pucks and bucks
if, for any medical reason, a person cannot use a regular bow, then i am 100% in favor of them using a cross bow. i wasn't refering to those folks.
i was at my local shop the other night just shooting the doodoo, and it was quite crowded with lots of fellas telling stories. it seems like a bunch of gun hunters (no offense to anyone) decided to get cross bows this year because this is the first year they have been legal. well, it also seems that about 50% of them have wounded deer with them because they think they are good to 80 yards, and they aren't. of course, there are no hard facts that back this up, it is just local gossip. but that fact alone makes me not want a crossbow to be legal.
ultimately, it doesn't matter what my opinion is, because the state has said it is legal, and that's all that matters. i am not going to critcize anyone who uses a crossbow, but i will not use one myself.
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if, for any medical reason, a person cannot use a regular bow, then i am 100% in favor of them using a cross bow. i wasn't refering to those folks.
same here. I think of people like Dave and his need for a crossbow. I wish I could get him in a tree and hunt some how.
quote:Originally posted by hsracer201
if, for any medical reason, a person cannot use a regular bow, then i am 100% in favor of them using a cross bow. i wasn't refering to those folks.
same here. I think of people like Dave and his need for a crossbow. I wish I could get him in a tree and hunt some how.
I agree, BUT LET THE HANDICAPPED USE THEM DURING RIFLE SEASON, NOT BOW SEASON.
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
why not use rifles during rifle season?
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quote:I agree, BUT LET THE HANDICAPPED USE THEM DURING RIFLE SEASON, NOT BOW SEASON.
why not use rifles during rifle season?
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Why? It is a BOW not a RIFLE. I agree with racer they can use rifles during rifle season and bow during bow season......
its all about pucks and bucks
Not so. That is part of the problem with crossbow use. People get the impression that it is more accurate than a standard bow. It also takes more draw weight to give comperable performance to a standard bow. Second, there is also the impression that one can just pick one up and go. You still have the same balistics problem as with a regular bow, arrow drop.You still need to practice.Third is convenience. Bulk makes them less desireable for anything but stand hunting and even has some limitations in that application. They are probably not the easiest thing to cock in a small stand 20 ft in the air. Another is single shot capability. I am sure that if needed the average shooter could accurately shoot 3-5 arows from a standard bow before a second could be made with a crossbow.
I hate to admit this but I have a friend that uses crossbow due to medical condition and has for YEARS, he has that impression, pick up and go. He missed a BIG BUCK last year and instead of practice he put a new string on and said that should fix it. I've tryed to tell him he has to practice and maybe I'm bad for doing so but I have givin up. He will never do it.
quote:They are probably not the easiest thing to cock in a small stand 20 ft in the air.
Cocked and locked then climb up. Thats how he does it. I realize they have a safety like a gun but things can happen.
But again my thoughts on the topic would be if you can still pull a bow why would you want to use a crossbow? Nothin against them just curious.
If huntin' is a sport, then your lookin at an athlete- T-shirt
Gun bans have never accomplished anything, other than to create a safe working environment for criminals.
Also, a crossbow doesn't have the ability to fly straighter at longer distances than a bow does. Longer the arrow the longer it will fly straighter. And 2, most 70 lb. draw bows can shoot 40 yards if you are comfortable....I wouldn't dream of shooting 30 with my crossbow(150 lb draw). It doesn't quite have the penetrating ability at 30-40 yards! So they both have their pros and cons!
I killed my first archery deer with a crossbow.
A deer killed with a crossbow, does not qualify as an "archery" deer.
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
1 shot is all ya get so make it a " SUREKILL " (T/C Encore-/-Contender/ MATHEWS SWITCHBACK Shooter)
Then what is it called[?] It was shot with an arrow..hummm
Actually, it was shot with a "bolt".
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
I call
Sorry about the bs thing I really just wanted to use the image. I don't think I Have used it yet.[:D] He really does get pass threw everytime.
If huntin' is a sport, then your lookin at an athlete- T-shirt
Gun bans have never accomplished anything, other than to create a safe working environment for criminals.
quote:Originally posted by A.Gun
I killed my first archery deer with a crossbow.
A deer killed with a crossbow, does not qualify as an "archery" deer.
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
Agun.... if you feel it was an archery deer then it was one. It was killed with a bow.
its all about pucks and bucks
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1 shot is all ya get so make it a " SUREKILL " (T/C Encore-/-Contender/ MATHEWS SWITCHBACK Shooter)
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
quote:Originally posted by surekill
Then what is it called[?] It was shot with an arrow..hummm
Actually, it was shot with a "bolt".
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
bolt 1 (blt)
n.
1. A bar made of wood or metal that slides into a socket and is used to fasten doors and gates.
2. A metal bar or rod in the mechanism of a lock that is thrown or withdrawn by turning the key.
3. A fastener consisting of a threaded pin or rod with a head at one end, designed to be inserted through holes in assembled parts and secured by a mated nut that is tightened by applying torque.
4.
a. A sliding metal bar that positions the cartridge in breechloading rifles, closes the breech, and ejects the spent cartridge.
b. A similar device in any breech mechanism.
5. A short, heavy arrow with a thick head, used especially with a crossbow.
6. A flash of lightning; a thunderbolt.
7. A sudden or unexpected event: The announcement was a veritable bolt.
8. A sudden movement toward or away.
9. A large roll of cloth of a definite length, especially as it comes from the loom.
I figured that I would just clear this up for you. Since you dont think it qualifies as archery. The crossbow has limbs and shoots arrows.... so then what do you call it?
its all about pucks and bucks
Lt. Col. Winky Girl
stir,stir.
If huntin' is a sport, then your lookin at an athlete- T-shirt
Gun bans have never accomplished anything, other than to create a safe working environment for criminals.
arch?er?y (?r'ch#601;-r?)
n.
The art, sport, or skill of shooting with a bow and arrow.
The equipment of an archer.
A group of archers.
bow3 (b?)
n.
A bent, curved, or arched object.
A weapon consisting of a curved, flexible strip of material, especially wood, strung taut from end to end and used to launch arrows.
its all about pucks and bucks
Lt. Col. Winky Girl
I figured that I would just clear this up for you. Since you dont think it qualifies as archery. The crossbow has limbs and shoots arrows.... so then what do you call it?
You havent "cleared" anything up that I do not already know-but Im glad you went about educating yourself. I know what a bolt is, and I still do not think crossbow qualifies as archery.
Furthermore, you are welcome to call bolts "arrows" if it makes you feel good, but what a crossbow shooter shoots is known as bolts, not arrows.
And what do I call it? I call it a crossbow.
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
quote:Originally posted by gagirl
I figured that I would just clear this up for you. Since you dont think it qualifies as archery. The crossbow has limbs and shoots arrows.... so then what do you call it?
You havent "cleared" anything up that I do not already know-but Im glad you went about educating yourself. I know what a bolt is, and I still do not think crossbow qualifies as archery.
Furthermore, you are welcome to call bolts "arrows" if it makes you feel good, but what a crossbow shooter shoots is known as bolts, not arrows.
And what do I call it? I call it a crossbow.
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
Salzo.. read... by definition a bolt is a short arrow. So now you intend to define archery and arrows and bows yourself? I didnt realize that you had the power to change what definitions.
its all about pucks and bucks
Lt. Col. Winky Girl
Salzo.. read... by definition a bolt is a short arrow. So now you intend to define archery and arrows and bows yourself?
Nope. Just using the words that THE REST OF THE FREAKING PLANET USES.
Does cabelas sell "crossbow arrows"?-Nope, they sell bolts.
How bout Basspro? They sell bolts also, AS DOES EVERY OTHER PLACE THAT SELLS CROSSBOW SUPPLIES!!, AS DOES EVERY FREAKING CROSSBOW MANUFACTURER!!! AS DOES EVERY PERSON WHO DOES NOT HAVE AN AGENDA TO DEFINE CROSSBOW HUNTING AS BOW HUNTING, OR ARCHERY HUNTING!!!!!!!!
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
there is no point.
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racer the point is on the top of your head.[:D] Just playin don't get all mad.
If huntin' is a sport, then your lookin at an athlete- T-shirt
Gun bans have never accomplished anything, other than to create a safe working environment for criminals.
About making disabled use a x-bow during gun season, thats a load of crap. Why not make the healthy folks use a slingshot during gunseason.
So your position is that if someone is unable to do something due to physical limitations, then NO ONE should be allowed to do it??
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man