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President Trump said....about the riots
pickenup
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"We have our military ready, willing and able"
What are your thoughts about using the military against civilians to quell the riots.
Posse Comitatus Act notwithstanding. This discussion has been closed.
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You already have democRAT politicraps willing to use them against law abiding firearm owners.
Who let the lawlessness get this bad?
EXACTLY!
The National Guard is still "The Military." That would be Constitutional. The Governor's in the States involved have the authority to call them out, if they feel it is necessary. To do so would be tantamount to Political suicide for these Democratic Governors. In this case they will allow POTUS Trump to take the lead, while just recently crying about "It's Our Job, as Governor's."
Can't have it both ways. You are either in charge, or you are not.
I realize that cooler heads are attempting to prevail with the "unloaded weapons," but that is just Asinine. Those M16's are probably worth $40-50K as a fully automatic weapon, on the street. The powers that be, have no right to send those young Men and Women in to Harms Way, unarmed. Unconscionable. (Perhaps they should try it, for a dose of reality.)
It should not just be National Guard, but specifically Military Police trained to deal with these situaions, without having to resort to deadly force. I will say however, there comes a time when a few people need to be shot, when and if their actions warrant it. Asking a 18-19 year old National Guard soldier to make that decision, is unwise. "Military Police." With ammunition. Do it right, or don't do it.
(And) Yes, I am speaking of National Guard Military Police, with Combat experience. NOT Active Duty Units.
I do agree, that a Philippine solution seems warranted here. Play Stupid games, win Stupid prizes.
It will eventually come to that type of scenario. Cave in, or do what is necessary to control Law and Order. Letting Rioters take over and burn a Police Station, while having Officers airlifted off the roof, (from what I have heard here.) Is unconscionable/unacceptable.
the looters / protesters are taunting and doing there best to get another protester shot and then it will all be on the politicians and government for starting the fight . and then crap will hit the fan full blast \
both sides are fully aware of this situation . the public officials and police / national guards will allow the crowds
to do any thing to avoid it like letting them loot burn steal and the other side is fully aware of there advantage and using it to its fullest
my feelings protest in peace fine, organize and hold sit ins marches with in the law . its our right
but any one causing damage looting starting fires blocking highways are putting innocent people at risk so
lock and load give fair warning then just have magazine dumps into the remaining looters
give complete immunity against any lawsuits
two more thought where are the arrest for not social distancing LOL all BS
last if it was groups of 2nd amendment protesting demanding all gun laws be revoked and doing the same as the current protesters looting burning destroying property in the anti-gun states and cities , well bet your * they would have no problem arresting and shooting any of them
The DEMOCRAT propaganda machine in action and they are using DEMOCRAT social media to communicate and coordinate their efforts.
Hate spreading media poses a far greater danger to the people than the virus, looters, and the rioters.
I agree, Respect is earned by both sides. Not just one. It is reciprocal.
Respect must be "earned," it is not given out of hand, because of a uniform, badge, or color of skin.
I will also say - when you are in charge, (Governors?) Be in charge. (Most of you were recently whining about the fact that you were indeed "In Charge.") As was often said in the Army, "Lead, Follow, or get the Hell out of the way."
Do your job, or step down. Letting Rioters run amok is NOT doing your job.
nmyers, I was going to share an incident that happened towards the end of Basic Training, but decided not to. With your post, I will share my experience.
We were required to pull Guard Duty on a few remote sites, armed with M16's without ammunition overnight. One of our teams was surprised at shotgun point, and relieved of their M16's. This was Ft. Leonard Wood, MO. In Jan. 1980.
I came away from that, realizing how STUPID it was to deploy troops with weapons but no ammunition.
What’s wrong with using water cannons on the rioters? No firearms necessary, just a bashing stream of water to clear the streets of rioters. Seems simple to me...
Best.
I'd much rather have a baseball bat to defend myself, than an unloaded M16. Not to mention the target on your back with the unfriendlies realizing you have an unloaded automatic weapon.
That must have been uncomfortable duty in Panama, leading up to Operation Just Cause Mohawk. Thank you for your Service Sir.
If Trump, the Commander in Chief, orders the military to fire on civilians armed with rocks, what will you do?
Don’t answer here. Answer in your heart, and be ready to hold yourself accountable.
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