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KenK/84Bravo
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Going High end. Replacing my "20% efficiency" Fisher Granpa model for a high end Pacific Energy insert. 86% efficiency, automatic damper and dual blowers. 99,000BTU/cord of wood. Rated for a 2800sq. ft. home. Mine is 1200 sq ft. "Your Heat pump will never click on."
$2995 for insert/woodstove, $1175 for SS liner, $250 for cleaning Chimney, and $650 labor. $400 tax.
$5400 total. Decided to do it right. It will pay for itself in short order.
Fisher for sale for $400. You pick up. 😁
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I am pleased with what is taking place. I was shocked at how much **** was in the fire box when we pulled my Woodstove and steel insert out to inspect. Major fire waiting to happen.
I am happy I am spending the $" for this endeavor.
Much better than a low efficiency woodstove, and my house burning down.
Wasn't going to do so much, but once we started discussing how inefficient my Fisher was (no baffles, no blowers, 80% of your heat is going up the chimney etc.) and they were going to be here doing the SS insert anyway, i figured WTH. Might as well do it right, and finally be warm in the house without all the little electric heaters going all over the place. Once I started looking at the woodstoves they had and the efficiency ratings and them comparing my old woostove to a muscle car. "Everyone wants one, but not to use everyday. New cars are much more efficient."
My utility bill is averaged for the year at $115/mo. I was seeing electric bills of up to $224 in the witertime before going avg. billing. Never really warm in the house. I am hoping I will save about $750/year plus on my utility bill. (And be warm.) The glass front will be a huge plus. I love looking at a fire.
I like that they throughly pack insulation around the SS pipe full length to keep the heat in the pipe. Etc. Lot's of nice touches (sp?) I've had stoves similar to what i am installing up north, much mo betta.
We love the Jotul wood stove and so does the dog. This is the Jotul Oslo, it is 5 years old.
Beautiful view of the fire box and a very efficient stove. We burn it quite a lot.
I also realized before they got here, that there is a steel damper/door on a hinge that you close, up inside the chimney, so it was not going to be a straightforward up and out routing of the SS pipe. A little more complicated than that.
One thing that is bugging me. One guy was showing me all the different stove models and options on each one, (and all the various prices, even on the same model with different options/trim etc.) while the guy behind me was writing up my work order and prices based on my responses.
Lots of different stoves and options on each one. (Prices.) I could have sworn the guy that was showing me the stove model and various prices said my unit in that particular configuration would be $2800. When I looked at the write up (work order) the stove I chose was listed at $2995. I figured I must have just confused all the various stove and options on each and the price. (But) The more I though about it overnight, the more I was convinced about the $2800 price. $195 difference. Worth bringing it up? Or just mark it down to my not remembering correctly?
It was all very cordial, no pressure and the two guys and I seemed to connect. I do not want to sour the install. I am leaning towards just letting it slide.
Looking closer at the brochure there is also various different surround plates depending on the size your particular fireplace opening is. Looking at it it appears I have to go for the oversive surround plate as my fireplace is quite large. They were doing different measuring and throwing dimensions back and forth to each other. That could be the $195 difference. Door trim/color etc. Not worth souring a good raport.
Do you remember (if you care to share,) what you paid for the Jotul Allen?
Is that a blower I see underneath and behind the unit? My unit (the Pacific Energy) is similar to units I have had up north. A box inside another box, where blowers force air through the chamber to send it out back into the house/room. Does the Jotul have that as well?
Yes Bob, I have a nice Hunter unit on a cross beam at the 1 story level. I close the doors on the two upstairs bedrooms, in the winter, but it still gets up to the 3rd level loft bedroom accessed via a ladder. The fan, (granted) would be more efficient higher up, perhaps I will add that to the ever growing home to do list. 😥
If I was smarter, I would probably move in to one of the 2nd story bedrooms in the winter. (But) The bathroom is on the 1st level. 😉
I believe this new unit, will make a night/day difference in the comfort level of my house. Not to mention not having to get up couple times a night to re-load the woodstove. They claim this unit will burn 12 hours on a good load of hardwood.
Hey, Looking up at the 3rd level railing on that loft bedroom, i can probably lean a box fan on low angled down to shoot the warm air back down to the living room. Eureka!
Wiley Coyote, Super Genious. (Or) DA for not having realized that quite some time ago.
I paid $2500 four years ago. They were asking $2800 and I talked them down. It is like buying a car, the price is negotiable.
I would call them to task for the little $200 "price change."
You have a complicated install I still suggest you go to hearth.com to get the info from the real wood stove gear heads.
However, getting old and dealing with the labors, along with the messes of firewood have made my current decisions valid. Oh, and another biggy for me in my area were the extra home owners insurance costs for wood heating systems.