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ron65
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I have noticed in some of the auctions part of the serial numbers are purposely covered or partially so. What is the reason for this? Thanks for the information and education.
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Terry
Caz1259
When describing a firearm, the writer often includes a partial serial number on the order of 1234xxxx. Just what, in the way of theft or other misconduct via miscreant , does that prevent????
It would seem unlikely to me that a full serial number would be of any use by the criminal boneheads of the world.
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Paul
Mountain Magic Gunsmithing
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Miles
When in doubt go faster
This same question is asked several times each year. Here is a recent discussion with multiple links to other similar topics...
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=440114
Unfounded paranoia.
Yep.
,,,,what would you do re the following,,,,,gun purchased from an on line auction,,,,,turned out to be a scam,,,,,pix mailed via of pvt e/m showing serial number,,,,,,,,would you file a stolen gun report with authorities knowing the pictured gun is probably legally owned by an innocent person,,,,,,,just askin',,,,caused it happened to me,,,[V]
How can you (or anyone for that matter) file a "stolen gun" report on a gun you never owned?
What needed to be reported (to the FBI) was a fraudulent internet sale (scam). The legal owner of the gun still has possession of it, and he/she should not need to become involved in the investigation of internet fraud.
Bert,,,,not sure re the legal aspects,,,,,,if the gun was offered for sale and a cashiers check for the gun was cashed would this constitute change of ownership and complete the fraud ?????,,,,,somewhat of a gray area ????,,,,,
No, it does not constitute a change of legal ownership. The true owner of the gun did not sell it to you, and therefore, there is no "gray area". You got ripped off by someone who never owned the gun, and this unfortunately happens quite frequently on the internet.
Your local LEO does not sound like a very bright person, as he/she should be fully aware of who and how to file an internet based fraudulent sale.
As for the original (true) owner of the gun, how do you (or local law enforcement) even know who or where that person is located?
What it boils down to is this... the gun itself was never stolen, but pictures of it were posted on the internet (fraudulently), and some scam artist (thief) sold you something that he never legally possessed.
As I mentioned before, this is an all too common scam that is perpetrated, and quite often, by somebody not within the U.S. borders. The tip-off to these scam artists is that they never have any feedback, and that they are very newly listed members. They make one fake sale, immediately drop the registered name they just used, and then establish a new user name and move on to the next victim. If a seller has an "NR" rating, buyer beware. If you have any doubts about the item for sale, ask the seller for an additional picture with some type of an identifying object in the immediate background (e.g. a quarter with the tails side up). A true owner/seller can easily provide the picture, while the thief can not.
,,,,,followup to above,,,,local LEO and Atty. suggested the filing of a theft report,,,,,,I declined,,,,no way would I want an innocent person (legal owner) to be in the 'hot seat' for a $500 gun,,,,,,
That was a mistake on your part... you should have filed a theft report for the $500 cashiers check.