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Dealers Address??
mudpuppydog
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I have looked and can't find an answer on the ATF's FAQ.
Am I allowed to mail a longarm to the "Mailing"address on a dealers FFL in lieu of the "Primises"address on a dealers FFL?
My postmaster says NO!
I have emailed the ATF but haven't gotten a reply.
Thanks,James
Am I allowed to mail a longarm to the "Mailing"address on a dealers FFL in lieu of the "Primises"address on a dealers FFL?
My postmaster says NO!
I have emailed the ATF but haven't gotten a reply.
Thanks,James
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I have recieved, through the USPS, a shotgun for a in state purchase from a private individual.
I mailed the same gun a few months later to a gun shop in Indiana with USPS.
I mailed a rifle to the factory from my local USPS. And recieved it back same way.
I don't know how your Postmaster has the address of every FFL?
USPS can't and shouldn't have anything to do with handguns.
(for non FFL)
Non FFL's wishing to ship handguns have to use a FFL, UPS, or FEDEX to ship a handgun.
Edit: I have never showed any paper work at the post offices I've used to ship guns. They just ask if its properly broke down when I tell them it's a gun. He isn't a dealer that's why I said the bit about handgun.
In state or out of state?
I have recieved, through the USPS, a shotgun for a in state purchase from a private individual.
I mailed the same gun a few months later to a gun shop in Indiana with USPS.
I mailed a rifle to the factory from my local USPS. And recieved it back same way.
I don't know how your Postmaster has the address of every FFL?
USPS can't and shouldn't have anything to do with handguns.
You seriously need to do more reading. I just shipped two handguns out last week thru USPS, and it was FFL to FFL. As Hawkshaw stated in order to ship a long gun from USPS, the post office will need to see a FFL.
Best
There is no requirement that a nonlicensee inform the post office that a package he is shipping contains a long gun. (A nonlicensee may not ship a handgun by USPS.) The only requirements are that such shipment is lawful, no ammunition is included in the package, & the shipper must truthfully answer "no" to the "4 questions".
Postal regulations specifically prohibit postal employees from interpreting Federal firearms laws.
Neal
EDIT: All past FFL Newsletters are archived on the ATF website; you can print any & all of them.
I finaly got the ATF to send me a copy of the 2006 News Letter that nmyers mentioned.
Now all I have to do is convince my Knothead postmaster that thinks she is J Edgar Hoover and Perry Mason rolled into one.
Bambambam,it don't have to be broke down.Only unloaded.I'v read everything I could find plus what the ATF emailed me and told me on the phone.I may change my name to J.Edgar Mudpuppy[^]
You are correct. I do if I can, they like it that way & I think the shipping just a little bit less.
When I take a package in like that they always get their yard stick and tape measure out to measure it real good. I have had some try to charge extra for any size over (XXX). It's all the same weight no matter how it's shipped....
As said, only a Dealer or Manufacturer can mail a handgun, but anyone can mail a rifle or shotgun, so long as you are complying with the 1968 GCA. C&P from USPS Domestic Mail manual-
432 Mailability
432.1 General
The following conditions apply:
a.Pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed on the person (referred to as "handguns") are nonmailable in the domestic mail, except as permitted in Exhibit 432.1 and DMM 601.11.1.
b.The disassembled parts of a handgun or other type of nonmailable firearm that can be readily reassembled as a weapon are nonmailable, except as permitted in Exhibit 432.1 and DMM 601.11.1 or 601.11.2.
c.Unloaded antique firearms sent as curios or museum pieces are generally permitted, as specified in Exhibit 432.1 and DMM 601.11.2.
d.Unloaded rifles and shotguns may be mailed if the mailer fully complies with the Gun Control Act of 1968 (Public Law 90-618) and
18 U.S.C. 921. The mailer may be required to establish, by opening the parcel or by written certification, that the gun is unloaded and not excluded from mailing because of the restrictions in 432.1b and c.