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Toyota creates 386,300 American jobs!
beneteau
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And approximately 9,000 more jobs coming when their Tundra plant opens in 2007 in San Antonio, Texas. Wake-up GM and Ford.....
The full story---->http://www.info-toyota.com/us_jobs.htm
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The full story---->http://www.info-toyota.com/us_jobs.htm
"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." --Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824.
"No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms (within his own lands or tenements)." --Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution (with his note added), 1776.
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... when, back in the early '70s? it's been 'catchup' for most American auto
producers since then. Now it's the impending 'cheap labor' Chinese cars.
It don't look bright for the good guys!
They pander to the unions, the stockholders, and the upper management.
And none of these constitutes a major portion of their market.[xx(]
I have supported this adminstration since the beginning, but being an oil man, Bush has allowed the rape of American consumers by big oil.
Rant, rant!
I hope the Jappers also export to Texas the creed that when you act, you act in the best interest of all, not just yourself.
When Diesel and Kerosene cost more than refined Gasoline, you're not just making a profit, you are treating people like idiots.
End/rant
Ever notice how all of these auto plants are located in so called right to work states where the per capita income is always in the lower tier of the fifty states? No one is opening new auto plants in Detroit or Los Angeles and there are good reasons for this. Although I support NAFTA its impact on manufacturing jobs in the United States is actually limited by the fact that a vast pool of low cost labor already exists right here inside this country. You can hire someone from Kentucky or Mississippi to work in a factory assembling widgets for a fraction of what someone from New York, Connecticut, or California would demand. You could also buy and entire county in many states for the money needed to build just a large distribution center in my area of California!
That is one of the main reasons I believe that Ohio didn't get the Hyndia (sp?) plant and Alabama got it instead last year.
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kristov is correct. It is always cheaper to hire some uneducated fool in BFE than to hire someone with an education. Notice they always put the plants where the people are *desperate* for work, and will put up with just about anything?
Merc
You Geniuses obviously don't take into account that in BFE the taxes are lower, therefore payroll can be lower.
Another factor that seems to have escaped your education is that modern automobile construction requires semi-skilled labor. It is much better for a Japanese company to utilize a previously untrained workforce in the U.S. There are no bad habits to break them of.
Given the choice between hiring * or bright guys like you to assemble matchboxes, there ain't much choice.[:p]
At the present time Toyota builds more vehicles in North America than it does in Japan. In terms of world wide production, I'm sure Japan accounts for only 1/3 or 1/4 of the total. In Indiana, where I live, Toyota builds Tundra pickups and the SUV that is built on the same frame. Since the plant was built here, it has gone through at least two expansions; the first one occurred before the first vehicle rolled off of the assembly line. I would guess that their total investment here must be around $2 billion dollars.
You must keep in mind that with automated or more automated production, the demand for skilled labor in all industries has declined.
J. Patrick Tatum
Allthough I will say the pay wasnt all that bad and the beifits were excellant.
Ever see the the movie about Preston Tucker? pretty ironic huh.
"* ER DONE"
Allthough I will say the pay wasnt all that bad and the beifits were excellant.
Ever see the the movie about Preston Tucker? pretty ironic huh.
"* ER DONE"
Ever notice how all of these auto plants are located in so called right to work states where the per capita income is always in the lower tier of the fifty states? No one is opening new auto plants in Detroit or Los Angeles and there are good reasons for this. Although I support NAFTA its impact on manufacturing jobs in the United States is actually limited by the fact that a vast pool of low cost labor already exists right here inside this country. You can hire someone from Kentucky or Mississippi to work in a factory assembling widgets for a fraction of what someone from New York, Connecticut, or California would demand. You could also buy and entire county in many states for the money needed to build just a large distribution center in my area of California!
Kentucky is not a right to work state, but that didn't stop Toyota from building the Camry plant in Georgetown. And the lack of right to work status didn't keep Honda from building a plant in Ohio.
Not to sure of Indiana's status as a right to work state.
Bottom line is that auto manufacturers build plants where they are most centrally located, (respective to their customers) and in states that offer them the best tax incentives.
Kentucky lost that Hyundai plant to Alabama in large part because they couldn't work out a deal on the land that Hyundai wanted to use for the plant location.
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The problem is that American automakers have forgotten the customer.
Yep. They think that all Americans want $35,000 trucks and SUV's. The most I'd be willing to pay is $15,000 for a bare bones truck.
Toyota- $13,700
Chevy- $16,000+
Toyota is more at touch with customers than GM.
They also have had two drug bust at two of these plants in the last few years, and I do not mean one person at each plant, the hired undercover agents to work as a common plant worker, they recorded people getting high and drinking while on breaks a combined total of around 75 people where arrested and lost their jobs, and just think they put your truck together
I also know a guy who works for a temp agency that hires people to go there only on Monday due to all the people that call off of work for that day
Unions dictate higher wages, and this in turn dictates higher prices to pay these people, but the problem is not everyone is making these higher wages, I have a friend who is oh! So pro union he will not shop at places that where not built by union labor, so last week when we stopped at a gas station I asked him why did he buy a donut and a soda from them when none of the workers in there are union, the bakery that made that donut is not union the clerk is not union, if you are going to support unions you should support every person in America to live to a higher standard, and it is not all about skilled labor, {he makes 28.00 an hour and will tell you he actually will work maybe six hours out of the day}
It is Wal-Mart and George Bush's fault.
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It is all about the unions demands, I live near Chrysler, gm and the ford plants in saint Louis, and friends and relatives have worked there, they are so pampered they do not know what a real job is like, 50,00 to 75,00 with overtime paychecks, with the best benefit package you can construct, Christmas bonus one of my friends got from Chrysler was 5,000, and if they have to close the plant for any reason {usually retooling}, they get 90% sub pay, when I was younger I worked for a vending machine company, I had stops at all three plants, I got to see the laziness for my self for every minute they spend on the line they screw off for one
They also have had two drug bust at two of these plants in the last few years, and I do not mean one person at each plant, the hired undercover agents to work as a common plant worker, they recorded people getting high and drinking while on breaks a combined total of around 75 people where arrested and lost their jobs, and just think they put your truck together
I also know a guy who works for a temp agency that hires people to go there only on Monday due to all the people that call off of work for that day
Unions dictate higher wages, and this in turn dictates higher prices to pay these people, but the problem is not everyone is making these higher wages, I have a friend who is oh! So pro union he will not shop at places that where not built by union labor, so last week when we stopped at a gas station I asked him why did he buy a donut and a soda from them when none of the workers in there are union, the bakery that made that donut is not union the clerk is not union, if you are going to support unions you should support every person in America to live to a higher standard, and it is not all about skilled labor, {he makes 28.00 an hour and will tell you he actually will work maybe six hours out of the day}
The Toyota plant in California is Union,the Mitsubishi plant in Illinois is Union.It is not always the Union's fault if companies cannot compete.There is more to it than that.Building a vehicle the people want to buy would help.http://www.uaw.org/uawmade/cartruck2006.cfm
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