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Or an analytical one, and I am not trying to stir the pot here, Think about the question before you post.
"Is there a human instinct for peace?" [:)]
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"Is there a human instinct for peace?" [:)]
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Woods
It's better to die on your feet, than to live on your knees.
I think humans "desire" peace, but their nature won't allow it.
That is my honest opinion,
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I don't think peace, as we understand it, is on any of these lists, so the answer to your question, which is not dumb, would have to be no.[:(]
I think that our requirement to protect and defend our loved ones supercedes this.
I would kill for some peace in my life.
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You can look at any civilization on earth from any time period. No civilization thrived on peace, peace translates into weakness, which translates down to extinct civilizations.
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As to an answer to the question. In my opinion the short answer is, no. After the quest for survival has been dealt with, mankind always "wants" more, bigger, better. If taking it from someone else, is the means to that end, history has proven that this is the path that has (when necessary, or by choice) been chosen. I do believe that age plays a part in this also. As we mature (and maybe grow a little lazier?) we can be "satisfied" with a certain comfort level.
The gene pool needs chlorine.
Order CAN = peace.
I think we are social creatures; that is, highly evolved pack animals, if you will. I think our only enduring instinct is that of survival for ourselves and or our "pack". Like the calm lady who suddenly goes "psyco" to protect her children, or a wilderness accident where the city-slicker survives in extreme conditions, or a soldier in the heat of battle - I know for me, I really didn't care about politics in the moments of direct enemy fire. The only concern was for the survival of myself and my pack. Only as we survived, did our politics and cause follow.
I think peace is desired and longed for, especially by those who have lived the absence of it, but it is not an instinct; maybe rather an outcome or goal. Without the conflict, would we... could we, REALLY understand and appreciate what peace is? I would apply that to both peace in the world as a whole, but maybe more interesting... to peace with ones self. If we all had that, maybe the world could follow.
But for now, my instinct tells me to keep reloading... [8D]
Peace, not being a real emotion, could hardly be an instinct,imho.
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If you think of the human needs ladder, the bottom rung is food. Once food is satisfied, then shelter. Then once full and out of the weather, then sex. After those are filled, then man will look around to see what his neighbor has so he can go take it. So weapon will likely be the next rung. And so on and so on. The last rung will be self fulfillment, like making contributions to noble causes and being publically recognized for it.
I think humans "desire" peace, but their nature won't allow it.
That is my honest opinion,
Rafter-S
I think whats he is saying is the instinct is Basically "SURVIVAL" peaceful or otherwise[V]
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I like Rafter-S answer also. But to put sex 3rd? I have been cold, wet, and hungry, and still wanted to.....well never mind. LOL
As to an answer to the question. In my opinion the short answer is, no. After the quest for survival has been dealt with, mankind always "wants" more, bigger, better. If taking it from someone else, is the means to that end, history has proven that this is the path that has (when necessary, or by choice) been chosen. I do believe that age plays a part in this also. As we mature (and maybe grow a little lazier?) we can be "satisfied" with a certain comfort level.
The gene pool needs chlorine.
I don't thinkk he has been cold enough , wet enough or hungery enough to fully understand the answer...If i'm wet, frezzing,and starved, i do beleive the last thing on my mind is gonna be sex...SURVIVAL FIRST...take care of those needs later,with a steak dinner and a fireplace and bottle of your choice...[:D]
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Always Remember Security without Liberty is called PRISON! -
Greed and dominance ...
There is an old saying that rings so true...."As long as there are two men alive on earth, there will be war".....reasons? Greed and Dominance..
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Old? First you forget names; then you forget faces; then you forget to pull your zipper up; then you forget to pull your zipper down.
Peace at any price... A few.
Peace because my hammer is bigger than your's... A few more.
Peace because there isn't anyone left to disagree... Lot's of them.
Pease because it's humane and correct... Don't hold your breath.
Nord
God protect me from my friends, I can take care of my enemies...
It was a joke, understand the concept of "LOL"?
The gene pool needs chlorine.
Not exactly Maslow's triangle but the gist is there. Acceptance by a group is how he termed it and it fits in the love/esteem section. Definately a factor.
Clouder..
It's been over 30 years since I studied Maslow's Pyramid--it seems he was doing his research back in the late 60's or so. There was also studies about long-term and short-term motivators, but I can't for the life of me recall who it was that was doing it. Oh, well. Something has to go with age.
The weapons part and taking what belongs to one's neighbor is my addition to the pyramid. But Maslow wouldn't listen to me.
Rafter-S
P.S Congratulations on your astute observation.
Big Daddy my heros have always been cowboys,they still are it seems
Rafter-S
Big Daddy my heros have always been cowboys,they still are it seems
very little about Maslow's triangle and the hierarchy triangle stuff.
my question, I was hoping to be more of a netural nature.
But you guys did hit on something that some large corporations that I have worked for base employee training programs on. [:)]
Thanks for bringing that up, how soon I forget the little stuff [:)]
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Rafter-S
Noted: [:)]
and the ones without or Religious study?
(not trying to start anything! honest) I feel that people are born with an idea of good and bad, make it or not make it.
"Is there a human instinct for peace?"
my only solution is "If the price is right" [?]
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I think that pretty much covers it under the K.I.S.S. rule![:D]
Thank you and good night,
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The natural tendancy of the universe is from order to disorder (2nd Law of Thermodynamics).
As far as the genesis account, I guess I would say that a "fallen creation" could account for this tendancy. My position is that all mean are basically evil, that is - born into sin, and must be redeemed from their sin nature. The sinfulness/evil/depravity in us all makes us the natural enemies of peace. Only something foreign (I believe that is God) working in us will allow us to desire peace.
So is there an instict for peace? I would say not now, no. Maybe originally, before the fall of man into sin, but even if so, does not exist now and man must be redeemed before truly desiring it.
That's my take...and my head hurts now from thinking too much.
To whom much is given, much is expected.
I conclude there is no human instinct for peace, though it is certainly a good idea.
Equally, there is no instinct for war or conflict.
There is a drive for survival.
My heros have always killed cowboys.
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