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12 ga, OO buck ???
Have a chance to hunt Deer in Pa's Ridley Creek St. Park this year , but was told I must only use OO buck , the ammo I have holds 9 round OO bb's ( 2 3/4" 12 gauge ) Never hunted with the stuff and was wondering what would be the max range for this ammo .
I was thinking , treat it like bow hunting , and try to stay under 35 yards ( + or - a yard or two )
Anyone here ever use it for/on anything ???
BTW Deer in these parts average around 100 - 120lbs for an adult deer
Have a chance to hunt Deer in Pa's Ridley Creek St. Park this year , but was told I must only use OO buck , the ammo I have holds 9 round OO bb's ( 2 3/4" 12 gauge ) Never hunted with the stuff and was wondering what would be the max range for this ammo .
I was thinking , treat it like bow hunting , and try to stay under 35 yards ( + or - a yard or two )
Anyone here ever use it for/on anything ???
BTW Deer in these parts average around 100 - 120lbs for an adult deer
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Using the 'rule of thumb' of 1"/yard, you would pattern 100" at 100 yds.
Is that rule for all types of shot, or just 00 buckshot ?
sabot slugs.. got a doe at 160 yds this year
wifes 20 ga with rifled slug she took one this year at 116 yds.
This is the only info I can get from the State's web site as far as their "Special "rules go .
In addition to archery hunting, management efforts will include two days of regulated shotgun hunting on December 02, 2010 & December 09, 2010. These hunts will be for both antlered & antlerless deer by SPECIAL PERMIT ONLY. Applications must be submitted for your chance to participate in these two days of hunting. Applications are available during the month of September only. Applications may be obtained in the same manner as the archery hunting information. Successful applicants will be drawn via a lottery. 200 hunters will be selected to hunt each day. To ensure the safety of all park visitors, ALL of Ridley Creek State Park will be CLOSED during these two days to all other activities. During archery hunting the park will remain open. There is no archery hunting on Sundays, December 02 & 09. For additional information please contact the park office.
I sent for a copy of what restrictions they have inplace , It says shotgun only , but nothing on ammo ( I was told OO buck only ) I'm hopeing Slugs are allowd .
Our permits are for the Dec. 2nd hunt , so I still have time to research whats what .
I would say 50 yards, 80 max with a good gun that you have patterned and practiced with.
but if one of those pellets was to hit someone in the temple or major blood vain or vesssle near the skin at 400 yards it probably wouldnt do them one lick of good. and with buckshot you just dont know where it is gonna end up.
It is the ONLY way to know for SURE what YOUR set up will do.
an open choke . I lost a deer
years ago with a 16ga using buckshot.
About 5 yrs ago I lost another using
12ga 00. I patterned it out of
my A5 and there were pattern holes
everywhere.Slugs only(Brennekes) now, but I
try to stay out of shotgun territory.
If I'm limited to this buck shot , I'll keep it within bow range , not saying its the ammo's limits , but for myself , it would be MY limits . Even with slugs , I would keep it under 100 yards .
buckshot range with shotguns vary quite a bit from gun to gun. One gun might pattern well enough to use at 80 yards, another might not group so well at 50.
You need to pattern the gun, and practice.
Again pattern your gun, I would recomend not shooting farther than you gun will put 3-4 buckshot in an 8" circle in the middle of your pattern.
Obviously you can head shoot a deer if it is close enough you know there will be buskshot hitting the brain, but at distance you may put 3-4 shot in it but not hit the brain. You do not have pinpoint accuracy with buskshot like you would with a rifle. Again I recomend holding in the chest where the kill zone is larger.
There have been a lot of deer taken with buckshot, just stay within the limitations of your weapon.
Draw yourself a circle the size of the kill zone say 14 inches, or the size of a main course dinner platter.
Most shotguns will do well enough at 35 yards. A good fullchoked gun will put 1 or 2 on it at 50 yards. an excellent shotgun will put one or two on a 20" target at 60 70 80 yards.
With buckshot 150 yards max, I would be cautious about shooting at anything over 100 yards.
Are you crazy? [:0]
Over many years of 3-Gun and observing PD quals with various shot sizes (I use #1 for social use) the old 1" of spread for 1 yard of range has been proven to my satisfaction.
Although
I read a shotgun test recently that had some of the expensive modern super-wad or whatever 00 loads go into 6" at 25 yards from an open choke.
Go! Pattern!
Along with all the other stuff posted YOU need to take YOUR shotgun with YOUR load and go pattern it at the furthest distance you plan on shooting. Then you should also do it at a spot or two between.
It is the ONLY way to know for SURE what YOUR set up will do.
+1 You really need to check out your actual setup to know for sure.
Pattern testing will also tell you Where your gun shoots. Shotguns seldom shoot to point of aim,. Determioning where it shoots is just as important as how it patterns at a given range.
If your gun is chambered for them, there is also 3" buckshot.
Most offer higher pellet counts and and some higher velocities.
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quote:Only hunters holding special state park permits and using manual, semi-automatic or muzzleloader shotguns with "00" buckshot ammunition will be allowed to participate in the hunts, which will be limited to 200 hunters each day.
http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/polycomm/pressrel/ridley.htm
I will shoot some out of my shotgun to see how it patterns , I'v shot slugs so thats not a problem .
Effective range will vary from gun to gun. None of us can tell you as much as you will learn from shooting it at various ranges. Let us know how it works out. Good Luck.
complete bs. that is the same as a 1600 yd .308 kill
40 yds is a good max foe OO
30 is better
I suggest that you back off from the OO buckshot and go for a denser pattern of smaller shot, such as Number 5 buckshot. The Number 5 buck is going to give you a lot more pellets, dense
So you are suggesting that he breaks the game laws in his state?
quote:
Only hunters holding special state park permits and using manual, semi-automatic or muzzleloader shotguns with "00" buckshot ammunition will be allowed to participate in the hunts, which will be limited to 200 hunters each day.
quote:Originally posted by wittynbear
With buckshot 150 yards max, I would be cautious about shooting at anything over 100 yards.
Are you crazy? [:0]
For a moment there, I thought I was the only one asking that.
A pellet of OO buckshot will blow through a 1/2" sheet of plywood at 100yds, but the pattern is blown. You must keep your pattern and your distance in check. 40yds would be my max suggestion,...especially if you are new to buckshot and running deer. I would try more for 20-30yds as a safety measure and ethical boundry. When properly applied, )) buckshot is pure bad *