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Apparently Nitrouz doesn't read his own post. Here is what it say towards the bottom of the article.
quote:In a phone conversation with Mr. Bill Ruger, Jr., President of the company, Mr. Ruger explained that after four years of looking at the company policy they decided to make several changes on the types of activities covered. Mr. Ruger further explained that "our experience has indicated that the cost was not significant and that the restrictions were no longer necessary." Mr. Ruger also expressed his thoughts on helmet laws in general, he believes that the legislature should not enact helmet laws and that individuals should be responsible for their own safety and use reasonable care and exercise caution when riding. Mr. Ruger also commented on motorcycle organizations, he thought that they should promote rider safety and the use of safety equipment, including helmets.
NHMRO believes that Mr. Ruger came to the correct decision on its policy changes, reaffirming the position we have held for many years. That motorcyclists are no more a burden to the system than any other segment of society. NHMRO appreciates the fact that Ruger has taken an objective look at this issue and we applaud their willingness to adjust the company policy on this issue. We would hope that other companies would follow Ruger's example and use this as a model for setting policy in the future.
On a personal note the AMA Trustee, Rick Grey, is a personal friend of mine. He is also my Lawyer in Lancaster, Pa.
Remember...Terrorist are attacking Civilians; Not the Government. Protect Yourself!
Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
There are a lot of firearms that everyone around here swears by that are made over seas now. Ruger firearms are fine by me; at least they are made in America.
Now for the helmet law issue, I am an LEO, and I ride motorcycles. I also wear my seat belt when in a car. However, I cannot stand the fact that it is a law that I have to do it. As and adult I should be able to make up my own mind to ether do it or not. Helmet laws suck, and so do any other BIG BROTHER type safety rules that we get shoved down our throats. Are we going to start requiring every farmer on a tractor to start wearing them when plowing his fields? Children in restraint devices are a bit different. Go ahead and require the adult in charge to protect them from what they cannot do them selves, but an adult should be able to choose if he wants to live his life with some risk involved. I just fear that some day the sunscreen police are going to stop us on the beach and write us a citation for not having applied some copper tone to out butts. Plane and simple, you can take your helmet laws, seat belt laws, loud lawnmower laws, and dog curbing laws, and stuff them up the tail pipe of your little Japanese made economy car. I'll continue to eat read meat, drive a 4X4 SUV, shoot guns, and RIDE HARD without a helmet! [}:)]
Trinity +++
"Train up a child in the way he should go, even when he is old he will not depart from it."(Proverbs 22:6)
Trinity,I'm with you 100%.
I've never been able to get into the habit
of wearing my seat belt.I do think everyone
should,but I feel it should be by choice.I've
really been trying to get into the habit,but
still forget sometimes.Around here,they actually
warn us ahead of time that during a certain time
period,they will be concentrating on seatbelts
with a ZERO TOLERANCE attitude.DPS actually has a
car(used to be a Camaro)in the area for that purpose
only!Well,Sunday it finally happened.Left the house
about 7:00 am,seat belt on,came to town,ended up going
to the show in Austin,came back to Taylor,stopped at
HEB for some beer(seatbelt on the whole time,kinda proud
of myself).Left the store to go home,went less than 1/4
mile on main street to take backroad to the house and got
stopped!That's when I realized that I hadn't buckled up.[:(]
The female trooper (DPS)was very nice(cute too)but after
telling me she stopped me for no seatbelt,noticed my expired
inspection sticker.She writes me up for the seatbelt and
lets me slide on the sticker!Now I ask you,what is more serious
offense?Not protecting yourself or driving an illegal vehicle?
IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.
And what's the old saying about don't look a gift horse in the mouth?
On the serious side, I'd guess the safety factor resulted in the ticket on the belt...meaning her protection. Same as DPS giving warning tickets for a bad headlight or taillight. The sticker can be done and then a judge would have dropped the ticket.
If a person that rides a motorcycle and is stupid enough not to wear a helment that is fine with me. It seems like motorcyclists are getting smashed by cars and trucks all the time anymore. What I do not like is that some states require helments, but allow young children to ride on the back of motorcycles. Young children are not aware of the risk involved and those individuals that would put a young child on the back of their motorcycle are irresponsible parents and/or adults. A good law would be that a person has to be at least 16 years of age to ride on the back of a motorcycle.
"Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, not liberty to purchase power."
Benjamin Franklin, 1785
Will you guys quit changing the subject! This is a post about Ruger's not Helmet laws. Iffin ya want to talk about Helmet laws make your own posts![:D]
To Ride, shoot straight,and speak the truth
This was the Ancient law of Youth
Old times are past, old times are done:
But the Law runs true, O little son!
So if Stephen Sanetti goes to Congress this fall and repeats Bill Ruger's legacy of removing OUR rights by saying some crap like 'the citizens shouldn't own semi-automatic rifles with removable clips'..in front of the Congressmen.....y'all are going to say 'Ruger all the way!'......?
someone else said it best....
the gene pool needs chlorine......
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
- Jesus Christ in Luke 22:36
Another Asinine Statement!
If, If, If, If, If.
What Bill did Bill Ruger write and enter into Congress?
Have you read about SAMI, or did you skip all of my posts to avoid the Truth.
Did you check into Colt's roll in this?
Remember...Terrorist are attacking Civilians; Not the Government. Protect Yourself!
Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
I do not own a Ruger anymore, nor any Smiths or Colts. Only way I'd own one now is if they were offered dirt cheap. There are so many great guns out there outside of Colt, Smith, and Ruger, I don't really need any of the three.
Bill Ruger was the man that wrote every member of Congress stating no man needs a firearm magazine over ten rounds. He testified before Congress in Sub Comittee re-affirming his belief.
His son's only known subject is he lifted the companies 'must wear a motorcycle helmet' to be covered by the company insurance..whoopy.
Stephen Sanetti had a public statement on www.ruger.com when he took over stating that he is ready to cater to the LEO's and ship over seas...he's expecting to lose the ability to sell his line of mini-14/30 rifles and doesn't have the cahoneys to protect his product or the rights of the American people. He's a company CEO now and wants profits up, even if he has to cut American jobs on the mini-14/30 assembly line.
His public statement is no longer posted on their website.
Rugerniner, what is this sami you speak of?
This is no laughing matter. American's are going to be losing jobs over this.
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
- Jesus Christ in Luke 22:36
"Bill finally said, 'Neal, you're being very negative about it.'
He got angry, then said 'Well somebody's got to do it; by God I
will.' And the next day he sent his letter to the Hill; the
evidence indicates a few weeks later he talked SAAMI into
supporting undefined 'regulation' of magazines over-15-rounds --
a vote that might have gone a little differently if any produced
high-capacity magazines as standard for either rifles or pistols.
"I suspect that Ruger and SAAMI's actions are responsible,
directly or indirectly, for the Bush administration's proposal to
ban high-cap mags, but that proposal has been ignored -- except
as evidence that 'the Bush administration and the American
firearms industry recognize there's a problem -- that Americans
shouldn't be allowed to have such guns.'
Remember...Terrorist are attacking Civilians; Not the Government. Protect Yourself!
Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
"While I agree that a ban on over-15 magazines would be 'indefinitely
preferable' to a ban on the guns that use them, that's not the question.
Neither I, nor the other gun groups have ever believed that we were
faced with such an either/or choice. Early last year the NRA legislative
Policy committee discussed various alternatives to the proposed 'assault
weapons' ban, and wisely decided that magazine restrictions wouldn't
satisfy our foes, but would make it more difficult to stop a gun ban.
Remember...Terrorist are attacking Civilians; Not the Government. Protect Yourself!
Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
AAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. let me see.. Ruger's.. Just checked and I have several of them.. the Mini & 10-22 eat vast quantities of ammo.. hit what I shoot them at.. have provided meat in the pot.. Pistols.. welllll the Bearcat has always enjoyed a special place in the gun safe.. My Dad loved his.. and we both love "that sound" when the hammer is drawn back.. the 9mm shoots well.. and is comfortable in my hand.. Will I buy more.. Dammed Skippy!
"We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."
George Orwell
"My real point is, how many here own an AK or similar type rifle? Does such ownership mean you support Communism?
Get my drift?"
How many Chinese do you see going before Congress saying American's should only have ten round magazines for their rifles, nothing more?
That is the discussion here. By the way, China's plan to disarm us was probably to flood our market with cheap high capacity rifles so we would end up disarming ourselves...makes a good military strategy.
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
- Jesus Christ in Luke 22:36
Comments
quote:In a phone conversation with Mr. Bill Ruger, Jr., President of the company, Mr. Ruger explained that after four years of looking at the company policy they decided to make several changes on the types of activities covered. Mr. Ruger further explained that "our experience has indicated that the cost was not significant and that the restrictions were no longer necessary." Mr. Ruger also expressed his thoughts on helmet laws in general, he believes that the legislature should not enact helmet laws and that individuals should be responsible for their own safety and use reasonable care and exercise caution when riding. Mr. Ruger also commented on motorcycle organizations, he thought that they should promote rider safety and the use of safety equipment, including helmets.
NHMRO believes that Mr. Ruger came to the correct decision on its policy changes, reaffirming the position we have held for many years. That motorcyclists are no more a burden to the system than any other segment of society. NHMRO appreciates the fact that Ruger has taken an objective look at this issue and we applaud their willingness to adjust the company policy on this issue. We would hope that other companies would follow Ruger's example and use this as a model for setting policy in the future.
On a personal note the AMA Trustee, Rick Grey, is a personal friend of mine. He is also my Lawyer in Lancaster, Pa.
NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
Bill passed away and his son stepped in to make things better with the workers and fellow bike riders.
I read my posts....most of the time.
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
- Jesus Christ in Luke 22:36
There are a lot of firearms that everyone around here swears by that are made over seas now. Ruger firearms are fine by me; at least they are made in America.
Now for the helmet law issue, I am an LEO, and I ride motorcycles. I also wear my seat belt when in a car. However, I cannot stand the fact that it is a law that I have to do it. As and adult I should be able to make up my own mind to ether do it or not. Helmet laws suck, and so do any other BIG BROTHER type safety rules that we get shoved down our throats. Are we going to start requiring every farmer on a tractor to start wearing them when plowing his fields? Children in restraint devices are a bit different. Go ahead and require the adult in charge to protect them from what they cannot do them selves, but an adult should be able to choose if he wants to live his life with some risk involved. I just fear that some day the sunscreen police are going to stop us on the beach and write us a citation for not having applied some copper tone to out butts. Plane and simple, you can take your helmet laws, seat belt laws, loud lawnmower laws, and dog curbing laws, and stuff them up the tail pipe of your little Japanese made economy car. I'll continue to eat read meat, drive a 4X4 SUV, shoot guns, and RIDE HARD without a helmet! [}:)]
Trinity +++
"Train up a child in the way he should go, even when he is old he will not depart from it."(Proverbs 22:6)
I've never been able to get into the habit
of wearing my seat belt.I do think everyone
should,but I feel it should be by choice.I've
really been trying to get into the habit,but
still forget sometimes.Around here,they actually
warn us ahead of time that during a certain time
period,they will be concentrating on seatbelts
with a ZERO TOLERANCE attitude.DPS actually has a
car(used to be a Camaro)in the area for that purpose
only!Well,Sunday it finally happened.Left the house
about 7:00 am,seat belt on,came to town,ended up going
to the show in Austin,came back to Taylor,stopped at
HEB for some beer(seatbelt on the whole time,kinda proud
of myself).Left the store to go home,went less than 1/4
mile on main street to take backroad to the house and got
stopped!That's when I realized that I hadn't buckled up.[:(]
The female trooper (DPS)was very nice(cute too)but after
telling me she stopped me for no seatbelt,noticed my expired
inspection sticker.She writes me up for the seatbelt and
lets me slide on the sticker!Now I ask you,what is more serious
offense?Not protecting yourself or driving an illegal vehicle?
IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.
And what's the old saying about don't look a gift horse in the mouth?
On the serious side, I'd guess the safety factor resulted in the ticket on the belt...meaning her protection. Same as DPS giving warning tickets for a bad headlight or taillight. The sticker can be done and then a judge would have dropped the ticket.
Till next time, Rugers are OK with me.
Have Gun, will travel
"Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, not liberty to purchase power."
Benjamin Franklin, 1785
To Ride, shoot straight,and speak the truth
This was the Ancient law of Youth
Old times are past, old times are done:
But the Law runs true, O little son!
"Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, not liberty to purchase power."
Benjamin Franklin, 1785
someone else said it best....
the gene pool needs chlorine......
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
- Jesus Christ in Luke 22:36
If, If, If, If, If.
What Bill did Bill Ruger write and enter into Congress?
Have you read about SAMI, or did you skip all of my posts to avoid the Truth.
Did you check into Colt's roll in this?
NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
To err is human, to moo is bovine.
His son's only known subject is he lifted the companies 'must wear a motorcycle helmet' to be covered by the company insurance..whoopy.
Stephen Sanetti had a public statement on www.ruger.com when he took over stating that he is ready to cater to the LEO's and ship over seas...he's expecting to lose the ability to sell his line of mini-14/30 rifles and doesn't have the cahoneys to protect his product or the rights of the American people. He's a company CEO now and wants profits up, even if he has to cut American jobs on the mini-14/30 assembly line.
His public statement is no longer posted on their website.
Rugerniner, what is this sami you speak of?
This is no laughing matter. American's are going to be losing jobs over this.
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
- Jesus Christ in Luke 22:36
http://www.saami.org/
NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
He got angry, then said 'Well somebody's got to do it; by God I
will.' And the next day he sent his letter to the Hill; the
evidence indicates a few weeks later he talked SAAMI into
supporting undefined 'regulation' of magazines over-15-rounds --
a vote that might have gone a little differently if any produced
high-capacity magazines as standard for either rifles or pistols.
"I suspect that Ruger and SAAMI's actions are responsible,
directly or indirectly, for the Bush administration's proposal to
ban high-cap mags, but that proposal has been ignored -- except
as evidence that 'the Bush administration and the American
firearms industry recognize there's a problem -- that Americans
shouldn't be allowed to have such guns.'
NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
"While I agree that a ban on over-15 magazines would be 'indefinitely
preferable' to a ban on the guns that use them, that's not the question.
Neither I, nor the other gun groups have ever believed that we were
faced with such an either/or choice. Early last year the NRA legislative
Policy committee discussed various alternatives to the proposed 'assault
weapons' ban, and wisely decided that magazine restrictions wouldn't
satisfy our foes, but would make it more difficult to stop a gun ban.
NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
"We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."
George Orwell
TARGETS UP!
TIGER6
First, thanks again Niner for your search and explain efforts!
Now, how can the question be taken seriously,
or rather the poster? [;)]
My real point is, how many here own an AK or similar type rifle? Does such ownership mean you support Communism?
Get my drift?
He is mine [:D]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
With Amsoil You Can't Go Wrong
http://www.onlinesynthetic.com
Get my drift?"
How many Chinese do you see going before Congress saying American's should only have ten round magazines for their rifles, nothing more?
That is the discussion here. By the way, China's plan to disarm us was probably to flood our market with cheap high capacity rifles so we would end up disarming ourselves...makes a good military strategy.
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
- Jesus Christ in Luke 22:36