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Question for Glock Haters.

dreherdreher Member Posts: 8,805 ✭✭✭✭
edited January 2017 in General Discussion
I see many people that seem to REALLY hate Glock's here on the forum.

I am thinking of getting my first Glock and would like to know what so many of you have against them. I think the more you know the better before you lay down your hard earned dollars so whip it on me![:)]
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    bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They gots NUTTIN!

    That is why the argument will go on forever.

    Glocks are FANTASTIC; they keep shooting after tens of thousand of rounds, they are accurate and feed like no other. It is a simple design, with few parts and the darn thing works. I use my G-21 for my main home defense gun. It SUCKS there is no manual safety IMNSHO.

    The 1911 is perfection in STEEL, it is reliable unless messed with by bubba and did I say it is made from STEEL with carefully machined parts and a brilliant design now over 105 years old.

    Pick up a Glock, if you like it buy it.
    Pick up a 1911, if you like it buy it.
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    Ricci WrightRicci Wright Member Posts: 8,260 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why would you "hate" any gun? Especially guns that work so well as Glocks do? Most "shooters" who put lots of rounds down range like Glocks just fine. Go get one for yourself and join the fun. We are getting some G19's in different colors that look cool. I really like the sand and the bronze colors.quote:Originally posted by dreher
    I see many people that seem to REALLY hate Glock's here on the forum.

    I am thinking of getting my first Glock and would like to know what so many of you have against them. I think the more you know the better before you lay down your hard earned dollars so whip it on me![:)]
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I had a G19 for several years.

    I didn't "hate" the gun, but I felt uncomfortable carrying it and I really just didn't like the way it felt in my hand.
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    nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,881 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't hate Glocks, I'm just afraid of them.

    Our local PD has had 2 officers shoot themselves in the foot while holstering their guns. Yes, they were told to keep their finger outside of the TG while holstering it, but your fingers have a natural tendency to curl.

    Even before that, many PD's doubled the number of hours in their academy firearm training classes when they adopted Glocks.

    The early Glock hard cases had a post molded where the TG goes. But, some folks thought that storing a fully loaded gun in the case was a good idea, so that resulted in a fair number of AD's. Glock removed the post.

    Ever hear of the New York trigger for the Glock? Glock developed a heavier trigger because the NYPD threatened not to buy Glocks, because of the light standard trigger.

    For the record, I own one Glock (a 43), & I have also shot a 19. I can't hit much with either one, but I can pick up any SIG, H&K, Colt, or S&W auto & shoot decent targets.

    Yeah, I know, it's me, not the gun.

    Neal
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    savage170savage170 Member Posts: 37,471 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't hate them they're just not for me. I've had several thru the years always the first one I'm willing to trade for something else.
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    mmppresmmppres Member Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do not listen to any one but your own thoughts. I see to many buyers want things that other people recommend. If there is a gun rental place near you see what they have an spend some money try a few different kinds. Go to a gun club an watch others shoot. Your not spending a little amount of money. Get what feels good an shoots good for you.
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    dreherdreher Member Posts: 8,805 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I really wish there was an indoor range that rented out a bunch of different models from different manufacturers here in Spartanburg but if there is a range rental outfit here it is a well kept secret.
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    mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,297 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nothing wrong with the Glock.

    If you pull the trigger it goes bang.

    As far as going off while holstering with a 5 pound trigger that is just as likely with a revolver!

    Carrying a weapon that is ready to shoot without a manual safety to release is important for some.

    If you don't practice drawing and removing a mechanical safety you end up with a hammer in your hand.

    I also don't get why some people are afraid to carry a 1911 locked and cocked it is no different then any other gun really.



    If you are really worried about a safety feature get a squeeze cocker or a Beretta.
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
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    mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,297 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If I am not mistaken wasn't the NY trigger to simulate the trigger pull of double action revolvers? quote:Originally posted by nmyers
    I don't hate Glocks, I'm just afraid of them.

    Our local PD has had 2 officers shoot themselves in the foot while holstering their guns. Yes, they were told to keep their finger outside of the TG while holstering it, but your fingers have a natural tendency to curl.

    Even before that, many PD's doubled the number of hours in their academy firearm training classes when they adopted Glocks.

    The early Glock hard cases had a post molded where the TG goes. But, some folks thought that storing a fully loaded gun in the case was a good idea, so that resulted in a fair number of AD's. Glock removed the post.

    Ever hear of the New York trigger for the Glock? Glock developed a heavier trigger because the NYPD threatened not to buy Glocks, because of the light standard trigger.

    For the record, I own one Glock (a 43), & I have also shot a 19. I can't hit much with either one, but I can pick up any SIG, H&K, Colt, or S&W auto & shoot decent targets.

    Yeah, I know, it's me, not the gun.

    Neal
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
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    mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,297 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Come to Charleston [:D]quote:Originally posted by dreher
    I really wish there was an indoor range that rented out a bunch of different models from different manufacturers here in Spartanburg but if there is a range rental outfit here it is a well kept secret.
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a plastic gun but prefer metal.
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    NavybatNavybat Member Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think they are ugly, with terrible triggers and are quite bulky.

    I prefer all steel.
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    1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bpost
    They gots NUTTIN!

    That is why the argument will go on forever.






    yup


    from it will melt in an oven to it can go off by itself holds no water


    i would wager many of haters {not all} but many hate them because they dont understand them, and could not even change a hammer spring in their 1911
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    NavybatNavybat Member Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    quote:Originally posted by bpost
    They gots NUTTIN!

    That is why the argument will go on forever.



    yup


    from it will melt in an oven to it can go off by itself holds no water

    i would wager many of haters {not all} but many hate them because they dont understand them, and could not even change a hammer spring in their 1911

    Absolutely untrue for many. I can completely fix (that is replace parts as necessary) a 1911 or Beretta 92.

    And what is there to understand? It's a pistol, not a satellite.

    I guess I also have an "irrational" prejudice against anything that calls ITSELF "perfect". Be it a firearm company or an individual that is the height of arrogance. The GLOKE is far from perfect...and the fact that they claim it is irresponsible at worst and ludicrous at best.
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    Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 39,468 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Navybat
    I think they are ugly, with terrible triggers and are quite bulky.

    I prefer all steel.
    Yep, same for me.
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    1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Navybat
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    quote:Originally posted by bpost
    They gots NUTTIN!

    That is why the argument will go on forever.



    yup


    from it will melt in an oven to it can go off by itself holds no water

    i would wager many of haters {not all} but many hate them because they dont understand them, and could not even change a hammer spring in their 1911

    Absolutely untrue for many. I can completely fix (that is replace parts as necessary) a 1911 or Beretta 92.

    And what is there to understand? It's a pistol, not a satellite.

    I guess I also have an "irrational" prejudice against anything that calls ITSELF "perfect". Be it a firearm company or an individual that is the height of arrogance. The GLOKE is far from perfect...and the fact that they claim it is irresponsible at worst and ludicrous at best.



    as i stated {not all}
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    armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,483 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know exactly what they are and they are UGLY and that is enough for me.
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    montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 58,107 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Horse Plains Drifter
    quote:Originally posted by Navybat
    I think they are ugly, with terrible triggers and are quite bulky.

    I prefer all steel.
    Yep, same for me.
    +1,I also don't like the slide to frame fit. I prefer a external thumb safety. I prefer a full hammer. I had a springfield XD that shot great,but I traded in because it was too glock like.
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    i would wager many of haters {not all} but many hate them because they dont understand them, and could not even change a hammer spring in their 1911


    Or...maybe we just don't like them.
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    NavybatNavybat Member Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    i would wager many of haters {not all} but many hate them because they dont understand them, and could not even change a hammer spring in their 1911


    Or...maybe we just don't like them.


    Well said! [8D]
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    1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    i would wager many of haters {not all} but many hate them because they dont understand them, and could not even change a hammer spring in their 1911


    Or...maybe we just don't like them.





    not liking something is not on the same level as hate [;)]
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    WulfmannWulfmann Member Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In 1994 I went to shoot a friend's 17 and it went, well, nothing, oops, it went back to Glock.
    Not a good start.

    I bought a couple and they were OK, nothing about them made me like or dislike them except the pulling the trigger to take down for cleaning something that has taken many lives.
    I know, it is the users fault but to build in to a gun that unintended suicide function still baffles me.

    But, no hate just no care.
    I prefer a DA/SA decocker pistol and spent my life avoiding Sigs as over priced status snob pistols but now most of my pistols are turning into Sigs purely from shooting them and buying more because they work so well are so easy to take down and don't require risking unintended suicide
    A good 1911 is still the gun I can shoot more accurately but the metal Sigs are my preference for SD pistols
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    "Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
    Otto von Bismarck
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    pulsarncpulsarnc Member Posts: 6,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do not hate glocks just not the gun I like .Have nothing against polymer Do not like the way most of the glocks fit my hand Truly love my 1911 but rarely use it for edc.To each his own
    cry Havoc and let slip  the dogs of war..... 
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    MaaloxMaalox Member Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dreher
    I really wish there was an indoor range that rented out a bunch of different models from different manufacturers here in Spartanburg but if there is a range rental outfit here it is a well kept secret.


    Two ranges in Greenville have rental guns. Allen Arms and Sharpshooters.

    http://www.allenarms.com/range.php#equipment-rental

    http://www.sharpshootersgreenville.com/range
    Regards, MAALOX
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    CoolhandLukeCoolhandLuke Member Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Glocks are ugly and bulky, and has had more catastrophic failures than most other hand guns put together, not to mention it is the number one in accidental shootings.
    PS I could never grasp the concept of a plastic hand gun.

    I suggest you go thru the links below and decide later.

    https://www.google.com/#q=why+do+glocks+explode
    We have to fight so we can run away.
    Capt. Jack Sparrow.
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    CoolhandLukeCoolhandLuke Member Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dan I got this out the link you posted LOL,, Glocknade perfection at it's best[;)]

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    We have to fight so we can run away.
    Capt. Jack Sparrow.
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    1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CoolhandLuke
    Dan I got this out the link you posted LOL,, Glocknade perfection at it's best[;)]

    28tdh8i.jpg







    cool, they have been contracted to replace the m67 grenades , should cut that 14oz in half [:D]
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    NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 16,737 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    quote:Originally posted by CoolhandLuke
    Dan I got this out the link you posted LOL,, Glocknade perfection at it's best[;)]

    28tdh8i.jpg







    cool, they have been contracted to replace the m67 grenades , should cut that 14oz in half [:D]

    And make it more accurate!!![:D]
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    CoolhandLukeCoolhandLuke Member Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why are Glock lovers posting on Glock haters thread ?? [:D]
    We have to fight so we can run away.
    Capt. Jack Sparrow.
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    retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Never said I hated a Glock... Just never said I liked 'em! [;)]
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    mrmike08075mrmike08075 Member Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I do not own a plastic pistol...

    I do own a pair of nylon 66 Remington rifles...

    I do own a charter arms AR-7 rifle...

    I do have synthetic stocked long arms (kevlar - zytel - rubber)

    Maybe it makes me a hypocrite - but a pistol should be cold steel construction of its major elements...

    I have a pistol with plastic grip panels and polygonal rifling...

    But the slide and frame and bbl are steel.

    I do dot have a non metal rifle bbl - but I know they exist (carbon fiber and ceramics)

    Call me a purist.

    Plus I hate Chevy - not because Chevy necessarily is evil but because it's ubiquitous and omnipresent and has to many die had adherents already...

    Glock is in this category - to many posers and fan boys and cognoscenti losers who think they must grok Glock to be tacticool.

    If you give me a Glock (not a .380 or .40 s&w) I would use it

    Plus let's not even discuss the .45 GAP cartridge

    There is in my eye a social stigma attached unless I already have a deep respect and non man love for you

    How's that???

    You asked.

    Mike
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    1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mrmike08075
    I do not own a plastic pistol...

    I do own a pair of nylon 66 Remington rifles...

    I do own a charter arms AR-7 rifle...

    I do have synthetic stocked long arms (kevlar - zytel - rubber)

    Maybe it makes me a hypocrite - but a pistol should be cold steel construction of its major elements...

    I have a pistol with plastic grip panels and polygonal rifling...

    But the slide and frame and bbl are steel.

    I do dot have a non metal rifle bbl - but I know they exist (carbon fiber and ceramics)

    Call me a purist.

    Plus I hate Chevy - not because Chevy necessarily is evil but because it's ubiquitous and omnipresent and has to many die had adherents already...

    Glock is in this category - to many posers and fan boys and cognoscenti losers who think they must grok Glock to be tacticool.


    i won Illinois, Missouri, Indiana and the midwest regionals 2x with a g34 as a master, no poser here

    If you give me a Glock (not a .380 or .40 s&w) I would use it

    Plus let's not even discuss the .45 GAP cartridge

    There is in my eye a social stigma attached unless I already have a deep respect and non man love for you

    How's that???

    You asked.

    Mike



    the current world champion bob vogel has won



    IPSC World Champion (Production)
    IDPA World Champion (Stock Pistol)
    4x USPSA National Champion (Production & Limited 10)
    6x IDPA National Champion (Stock, Enhanced, Custom)
    6x IDPA Indoor National Champion (Stock & Enhanced)
    IPSC National Champion (Production)
    3x Pro-Am Professional Champion (Limited & Open)
    3x IDPA Carolina Cup Champion
    6x USPSA Area Champion (Areas 5,6,8)
    11x Indiana State Champion (USPSA & IDPA)
    7x Ohio State Champion (USPSA & IDPA)
    7x Michigan State Champion (USPSA & IDPA)
    7x IDPA Great Lakes Regional Champion



    WITH A GLOCK
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    rivethookrivethook Member Posts: 164 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm sure there is a local IDPA or USPSA club in your area find out when they have a match and go watch, ask the people shooting them in the match. I'm also sure someone will let you try one out on one of the stages.
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    mrmike08075mrmike08075 Member Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    1911alfan...

    I don't think you are a loser or a poser...

    But you can't ignore the tacticool fan boy elephant in the room

    Glock did for pistols what fast and furious did for tuner imports

    Ruined it for everyone and for all time

    Sorry if I offended you - you were not in the sight picture of my rant

    One which I was invited to post

    Mike
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    1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mrmike08075
    1911alfan...

    I don't think you are a loser or a poser...

    But you can't ignore the tacticool fan boy elephant in the room

    Glock did for pistols what fast and furious did for tuner imports

    Ruined it for everyone and for all time

    Sorry if I offended you - you were not in the sight picture of my rant

    One which I was invited to post

    Mike



    no worries here


    i didn't think you even knew i was alive [:D]
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    mrmike08075mrmike08075 Member Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I read your posts - I see "Chile" under your name...

    I respect you - I see you.

    Mike
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    gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    In 1989, I plunked down good money for a 17L in 9mm because the Golck held a lotta rounds. Never could hit anything with it, so it got swapped for a Grendel p30.
    In 1996, I plunked down good money for a g20 in 40 s'n'w because it was the "kat's *" with my Leo buds. Put well over 7,000 rounds through it, couldn't hit past 5 yards, so it got swapped.
    I don't "hate" Golcks (which I misspell on purpose, to hack on the fanboys), it's just that without spending thousands on an overpriced squirtgun, in vain attempts to make it accurate, or usable, or something to pass down; it ain't worth the hassle.
    I'll stick to firearms that shoot well, feel good, and take down in a sensible way.
    I'd even buy a Smiff before I waste a cent on a Golck.
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    DirtyDawgDirtyDawg Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you want a pistol that jams, won't shoot when it is dirty, or cold, then buy a steel pistol. If you want a pistol that you can trust your life with, that will shoot when it is dirty, shoot when it is 5F outside, shoot with consistency for 100's of thousands of rounds, then get a Glock. It has the perfect grip angle which forces you to lock your wrist out when aiming for consistency, has an easy mag and slide release, and, if you own multiple caliber Glocks, all your "trigger pulls" can be the same for consistency and operation. But hey, who would want that?
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    CoolhandLukeCoolhandLuke Member Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mrmike08075
    1911alfan...

    I don't think you are a loser or a poser...

    But you can't ignore the tacticool fan boy elephant in the room

    Glock did for pistols what fast and furious did for tuner imports

    Ruined it for everyone and for all time

    Sorry if I offended you - you were not in the sight picture of my rant

    One which I was invited to post

    Mike


    It is my opinion that 1911a1-fan is a top notch man even if we disagree once in a while[^]

    Oh and glocks SUCK[:D]
    We have to fight so we can run away.
    Capt. Jack Sparrow.
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