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Is Kavanaugh toast?
jimdeere
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Over something that happened in high school?
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I for one can't imagine that any future candidate for any office including the dog catcher will not have true or false info released in an attempt to sway the voting.
Dems better watch out because this nonsense can spread.
Over something that a woman claims happened in high school?
A woman, I might add, whose parents lost a foreclosure case in which Kavanaugh's mother was the presiding judge.
Smells pretty damn fishy to me.
Once this lie is disproved another and even more egregious narrative will suddenly appear. This is who these people are.
You always have to believe the accuser in these cases.
Unless, of course, her name is Kathleen, Juanita, or Paula.
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
Over something that a woman claims happened in high school?
A woman, I might add, whose parents lost a foreclosure case in which Kavanaugh's mother was the presiding judge.
Smells pretty damn fishy to me.
Awful fishy to me too......I wonder if there is documented truth to it.
The Left is really grasping at straws. 45 years ago? in High School? He's been investigated by the Feds like 6 times, and nothing has ever popped up! I was a pretty good guy in high school, but I'm sure I wouldn't fair to well being investigated like this poor guy was!
Any woman can say anything from decades ago without any verification other than she said it means only women will be able to be confirmed.
Democrats should understand this pendulum swings both ways
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
Now, fellas...
You always have to believe the accuser in these cases.
Unless, of course, her name is Kathleen, Juanita, or Paula.
+1
B S.....if something happened 40 years ago at college ..why not a couneler or adminstration contacted...police....church confessional... OH NOOOOO...now it is me to..15 minutes of fame ..chance for MONEY....none of these but 40 years later a confidential?? letter to a state congressperson i'll bet she only knew by name...YOU BET....SOP ...now this is carried to the point of if you are a white male you are GUILTY of something...and i have no doubt she BELIEVES after this length of time whatever really happened cause polly purebred would never have ENTICED any male in college so long ago...assuage some guilt or desire for fullfillment....NUTS...hope the voter( if any are awake) backlash on this type of politic comes back and slams the party promoting this nonsense big time at next election
Even further back....IT WAS HIGH SCHOOL!!!
The Democrats are using the ploy they used against Roy Moore in Alabama.
It worked because Alabama women and girly men are * provincials.
They tried it again on an Indiana AG up for reelection.
Intelligent people can see right through the ploy. When Democrats get a lie that works, they run it into the ground. "For the Children" is a good example.
quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
Over something that happened in high school?
No, he will be toast for his public denials should the allegations prove to be true.
Evidence might include providing the details to a health care provider during therapy 6 years ago.
Yeah, those healthcare providers are police now at least if you try to use their services for mental health conditions. The US prisons are full of mentally ill people right now and we imprison many more than other governments.
serf
quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
Over something that happened in high school?
No, he will be toast for his public denials should the allegations prove to be true.
Evidence might include providing the details to a health care provider during therapy 6 years ago.
And do tell, what is the standard of proof that will convict him Barz?
What type of proof will shut this down? How do you prove something didn't happen?
Just the nature of it is proof enough it didn't happen in my eyes, what are your thoughts or opinion on if he is guilty or innocent and what would convince you?
You, the chick, and no one else can PROVE this is true and that being said no Democrat candidate is innocent, the same "evidence" of abuse regarding every Democrat candidate now or in the future can be provided by any woman who has ever known any of them.
Great fact is she is a liberal professor, who claims that the incident impaired her in her life time. She can't remember how she got home but she can remember the incident pretty damn well she is a liar plain and simple.
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
Over something that happened in high school?
No, he will be toast for his public denials should the allegations prove to be true.
Evidence might include providing the details to a health care provider during therapy 6 years ago.
quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
Over something that happened in high school?
No, he will be toast for his public denials should the allegations prove to be true.
Evidence might include providing the details to a health care provider during therapy 6 years ago.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1022344128649
"Results indicated that 26% of participants ?recovered? a complete memory for the false experience and another 30% recalled aspects of the false experience. Real, implanted, and fabricated memories differed on several dimensions (e.g., confidence, vividness, details, repeated details, coherence, stress). These findings have important implications for the debate over recovered and false memories."
Not a huge fan of trusting 'health care providers' when it comes to memories dating back a few decades.
If it happened, you are correct the Kavanaugh's denials should keep him off the court. Kavanaugh obviously knows this, and if there were any truth to the accusation, is smart enough to address it honestly.
Absent some additional corroboration, it is difficult for me to jump on the bandwagon of destroying a man's career because some Bernie Sanders sycophant may have made the decision that he shouldn't be on the Supreme Court.
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
Over something that happened in high school?
No, he will be toast for his public denials should the allegations prove to be true.
Evidence might include providing the details to a health care provider during therapy 6 years ago.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1022344128649
"Results indicated that 26% of participants ?recovered? a complete memory for the false experience and another 30% recalled aspects of the false experience. Real, implanted, and fabricated memories differed on several dimensions (e.g., confidence, vividness, details, repeated details, coherence, stress). These findings have important implications for the debate over recovered and false memories."
Not a huge fan of trusting 'health care providers' when it comes to memories dating back a few decades.
If it happened, you are correct the Kavanaugh's denials should keep him off the court. Kavanaugh obviously knows this, and if there were any truth to the accusation, is smart enough to address it honestly.
Absent some additional corroboration, it is difficult for me to jump on the bandwagon of destroying a man's career because some Bernie Sanders sycophant may have made the decision that he shouldn't be on the Supreme Court.
Perhaps you should read the article for applicability.
The woman is not a child, nor do we have any information that she was an experimental subject being coached by her parents in a fabricated narrative, prior to her discussion with a health care provider some six years ago.
Perhaps Kavanaugh is the subject of false or impaired memory.
Perhaps a polygraph would be to his benefit.
My god, man, she donated money to Bernie Sanders for President.
If she was an impressionable child in 2016, it only makes sense that she was an impressionable child in 2012.
Edit: On a serious note, however, you assert though implication that the study was done on children? Perhaps it is you who should read for applicability. If you read the entire article, it seems the subjects of this experiment were adults.
Brad Steele
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And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
Over something that happened in high school?
No, he will be toast for his public denials should the allegations prove to be true.
Evidence might include providing the details to a health care provider during therapy 6 years ago.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1022344128649
"Results indicated that 26% of participants ?recovered? a complete memory for the false experience and another 30% recalled aspects of the false experience. Real, implanted, and fabricated memories differed on several dimensions (e.g., confidence, vividness, details, repeated details, coherence, stress). These findings have important implications for the debate over recovered and false memories."
Not a huge fan of trusting 'health care providers' when it comes to memories dating back a few decades.
If it happened, you are correct the Kavanaugh's denials should keep him off the court. Kavanaugh obviously knows this, and if there were any truth to the accusation, is smart enough to address it honestly.
Absent some additional corroboration, it is difficult for me to jump on the bandwagon of destroying a man's career because some Bernie Sanders sycophant may have made the decision that he shouldn't be on the Supreme Court.
Perhaps you should read the article for applicability.
The woman is not a child, nor do we have any information that she was an experimental subject being coached by her parents in a fabricated narrative, prior to her discussion with a health care provider some six years ago.
Perhaps Kavanaugh is the subject of false or impaired memory.
Perhaps a polygraph would be to his benefit.
My god, man, she donated money to Bernie Sanders for President.
If she was an impressionable child in 2016, it only makes sense that she was an impressionable child in 2012.
Edit: On a serious note, however, you assert though implication that the study was done on children? Perhaps it is you who should read for applicability. If you read the entire article, it seems the subjects of this experiment were adults.
Barz isn't known for being a reader.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
The Democrats have insisted that they would fight any Judge Trump nominated.
They refused to speak to him at first.
They have received more documents than all the other Supreme Court justices combines!
They have asked more questions of Kavanaugh than all other nominees combines.
They have asked moron questions to stall the process like going to Baseball games.
This woman never felt compelled to prevent him from becoming a Federal judge, she has followed his career oddly enough. I have no clue what any of my High School chums are doing.
Her accusation came out only when it became clear he might get a seat on the Supreme Court. And Pelosi sat on it for a month. She never asked a single question regarding any incidents in his teen years.
The accuser is an avowed Democrat and Trump hater, her conservative minded students are afraid to speak out in class due to her rants and she is so mentally fragile that a HS kid squishing her with clothes on has impacted her entire life according to her accusations of events in therapy.
She has required MENTAL therapy and isn't a credible witness to anything based on her lack of capacity to remember anything except that Brett Kavanaugh is guilty.
Total fabrication and if under some slight chance it is true Honestly if he was that Drunk he probably remembers less than she does!
Maybe he snubbed her in High School and DIDN'T have any interest in her and she is still pissed.
Sure, OK, love the timing, well played obstructionist party members
How did Fienstein vote on Bill Clinton's impeachment when people in his own staff and election committee accused him not of foundling but of multiple rapes???
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
https://af-mg.com/2018/09/17/breaking-news-christine-fords-parents-were-defendants-in-a-1996-foreclosure-case-guess-whos-mom-was-the-judge/
Link to foreclosure story
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
Christine Blasey-Ford, the 51-year-old woman who has come out of the woodwork at the last minute, accusing Brett Kavanaugh of attempting to sexually assault her as a teenager, has a brother who worked for a law firm that retained Fusion GPS, the primary "fixer" for the Clintons and the DNC.
Ralph Blasey, brother of Christine Blasey-Ford, worked as a Litigation Partner for Baker Hostetler, a law firm that retained Fusion GPS, the infamous D.C. company that produced the unverified Steele dossier on President Donald Trump and Russia, sparking the whole Russian collusion investigation.
https://yournewswire.com/kavqanaugh-accuser-brother-fusion-gps/
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
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Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
It is going to become very hard to get anyone to accept any nomination for anything that requires a Senate confirmation if this type of krap becomes the new norm.
quote:Originally posted by jim_lemay
Polygraph test results are not admissible in court.
It is not a criminal prosecution.
I do believe you missed the point.
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While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
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quote:Originally posted by jim_lemay
Polygraph test results are not admissible in court.
It is not a criminal prosecution.
Correct.
It is a character assassination.
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
Over something that happened in high school?
No, he will be toast for his public denials should the allegations prove to be true.
Evidence might include providing the details to a health care provider during therapy 6 years ago.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1022344128649
"Results indicated that 26% of participants ?recovered? a complete memory for the false experience and another 30% recalled aspects of the false experience. Real, implanted, and fabricated memories differed on several dimensions (e.g., confidence, vividness, details, repeated details, coherence, stress). These findings have important implications for the debate over recovered and false memories."
Not a huge fan of trusting 'health care providers' when it comes to memories dating back a few decades.
If it happened, you are correct the Kavanaugh's denials should keep him off the court. Kavanaugh obviously knows this, and if there were any truth to the accusation, is smart enough to address it honestly.
Absent some additional corroboration, it is difficult for me to jump on the bandwagon of destroying a man's career because some Bernie Sanders sycophant may have made the decision that he shouldn't be on the Supreme Court.
Perhaps you should read the article for applicability.
The woman is not a child, nor do we have any information that she was an experimental subject being coached by her parents in a fabricated narrative, prior to her discussion with a health care provider some six years ago.
Perhaps Kavanaugh is the subject of false or impaired memory.
Perhaps a polygraph would be to his benefit.
My god, man, she donated money to Bernie Sanders for President.
If she was an impressionable child in 2016, it only makes sense that she was an impressionable child in 2012.
Edit: On a serious note, however, you assert though implication that the study was done on children? Perhaps it is you who should read for applicability. If you read the entire article, it seems the subjects of this experiment were adults.
No, I stated that she is not a child and that her parents did not likely take part in an experiment to falsely plant information/memories regarding something that happened when she was 17 years old.
Is she credible ?
I don't know.
Nothing anybody has posted in this thread, however, has indicated that she is not.
Is she credible? Nothing you have posted would suggest that she is, or that you don't have mental illness, or that you have ever actually read anything.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by jim_lemay
Polygraph test results are not admissible in court.
It is not a criminal prosecution.
Correct.
It is a character assassination.
Polygraphs are an excellent interrogation tool, not a tool for determining truth. The operators are quite subjective in their analysis, and the very phrasing of the questions are intended to illicit reaction or response. I know people that have "passed" polygraphs that were not truthful on specific questions, so they have very little value as far as credibility in my eyes. Ford supposedly "passed" a polygraph, well someone being inconclusive is a pass. The entire thing is intended to undermine him. There is no reason a sitting Federal Appeals Court judge should be subjected to a polygraph. Especially one with an established reputation such as his.
This whole fiasco is ludicrous.[xx(]
Whatever happened to the presumption of innocence barring proof of guilt,.....and how long will females be able to wreck the careers and aspirations of males with the simple spoken (and unproven) word?
This whole fiasco is ludicrous.[xx(]
Oh no..Progressives (Harry Reid specifically) invented the "seriousness of an allegation in itself is evidence against the accused". This of course rarely applies to them because they have no morals or sense of decency
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
Over something that happened in high school?
No, he will be toast for his public denials should the allegations prove to be true.
Evidence might include providing the details to a health care provider during therapy 6 years ago.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1022344128649
"Results indicated that 26% of participants ?recovered#65533; a complete memory for the false experience and another 30% recalled aspects of the false experience. Real, implanted, and fabricated memories differed on several dimensions (e.g., confidence, vividness, details, repeated details, coherence, stress). These findings have important implications for the debate over recovered and false memories."
Not a huge fan of trusting 'health care providers' when it comes to memories dating back a few decades.
If it happened, you are correct the Kavanaugh's denials should keep him off the court. Kavanaugh obviously knows this, and if there were any truth to the accusation, is smart enough to address it honestly.
Absent some additional corroboration, it is difficult for me to jump on the bandwagon of destroying a man's career because some Bernie Sanders sycophant may have made the decision that he shouldn't be on the Supreme Court.
Perhaps you should read the article for applicability.
The woman is not a child, nor do we have any information that she was an experimental subject being coached by her parents in a fabricated narrative, prior to her discussion with a health care provider some six years ago.
Perhaps Kavanaugh is the subject of false or impaired memory.
Perhaps a polygraph would be to his benefit.
My god, man, she donated money to Bernie Sanders for President.
If she was an impressionable child in 2016, it only makes sense that she was an impressionable child in 2012.
Edit: On a serious note, however, you assert though implication that the study was done on children? Perhaps it is you who should read for applicability. If you read the entire article, it seems the subjects of this experiment were adults.
No, I stated that she is not a child and that her parents did not likely take part in an experiment to falsely plant information/memories regarding something that happened when she was 17 years old.
Is she credible ?
I don't know.
Nothing anybody has posted in this thread, however, has indicated that she is not.
Nor has anything that she and Feinstein said about this has been credible.
if Feinstein thought It was remotely credible she would have brought it out right away.
If Ford wanted to be taken seriously, she would not have sent it to just one Senator. She would have sent it to every Senator along with the FBI
What makes me highly suspicious of her is that Finestein held on to it for so long. If it was credible, why didn't Feinstein to bring it out right away. Because it's not credible, she wanted to wait until it was too late to do anything about the false accusations for the 2018 elections...
Keep on reaching for straws Barzillia, that's what you Democrats do best
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
My god, man, she donated money to Bernie Sanders for President.
If she was an impressionable child in 2016, it only makes sense that she was an impressionable child in 2012.
Edit: On a serious note, however, you assert though implication that the study was done on children? Perhaps it is you who should read for applicability. If you read the entire article, it seems the subjects of this experiment were adults.
No, I stated that she is not a child and that her parents did not likely take part in an experiment to falsely plant information/memories regarding something that happened when she was 17 years old.
Is she credible ?
I don't know.
Nothing anybody has posted in this thread, however, has indicated that she is not.
I just love it when you parse your own words. It is frustrating, and is damaging to the continuation of a discussion, but fun none-the-less.
For what it is worth, she does not appear to be an antelope. Does that advance the conversation?
Brad Steele
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain