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Obama has Just Announced his Deadly War On Gun Own
[V]This is one of the things that gets my goat BIG TIME!!!
ALL cops, prosecutors, and judges take am oath to 'support and defend the Constitution' yet they continue to enforce the UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS which stop people for owning, carrying, and using 'arms' by arresting, prosecuting, and punishing people for exercising their rights. [V]
quote:Originally posted by Jim Rau
quote:Originally posted by shootuadeal
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[V]This is one of the things that gets my goat BIG TIME!!!
ALL cops, prosecutors, and judges take am oath to 'support and defend the Constitution' yet they, MANY not all, continue to enforce the UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS which stop people for owning, carrying, and using 'arms' by arresting, prosecuting, and punishing people for exercising their rights. [V]
I added MANY NOT ALL to the above to clarify this. There are a few who do take the oath seriously, but damn few!!![V]
some of America was blindsided by wanting to make "history" (hitler made history too) the rest were only stupid, what the heck is wrong with Americans today, we need a revolution in order to fix what many have become. people were blinded by color and making history, not all history is good.
What is the excuse for the mccain voters ? Utter stupidity ?
Frankly, both conditions are indications of mental conditions...but those voting 'color' have a real chance to overcome their disability.
Those voting mccain are terminal...no hope there at all.
quote:Originally posted by therockguy
some of America was blindsided by wanting to make "history" (hitler made history too) the rest were only stupid, what the heck is wrong with Americans today, we need a revolution in order to fix what many have become. people were blinded by color and making history, not all history is good.
Smart people learn from their mistakes.
Smarter people learn for their mistakes and the mistakes of others around them.
The Smartest people learn from their mistakes, the the mistakes of people around them AND FROM HISTORY!!![;)]
quote:Originally posted by Jim Rau
quote:Originally posted by shootuadeal
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[V]This is one of the things that gets my goat BIG TIME!!!
ALL cops, prosecutors, and judges take am oath to 'support and defend the Constitution' yet they continue to enforce the UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS which stop people for owning, carrying, and using 'arms' by arresting, prosecuting, and punishing people for exercising their rights. [V]
quote:Originally posted by Jim Rau
quote:Originally posted by Jim Rau
quote:Originally posted by shootuadeal
oath
[V]This is one of the things that gets my goat BIG TIME!!!
ALL cops, prosecutors, and judges take am oath to 'support and defend the Constitution' yet they, MANY not all, continue to enforce the UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS which stop people for owning, carrying, and using 'arms' by arresting, prosecuting, and punishing people for exercising their rights. [V]
I added MANY NOT ALL to the above to clarify this. There are a few who do take the oath seriously, but damn few!!![V]
I made the correction already Jeff! You didn't read far enough![:D]
quote:Originally posted by melkor
Alarmist Nonsense ! U really think they want to lose congress over guns again ! WAKE UP ! Oh and Obama is not a Reptilian or Alien, Just a Liberal Black Power Jerk.
Yes, self preservation is a basic instinct. But decades of liberalism can override logic, even in the self preservation area.
We will have to see. But right now he has so much on his plate anti-gun is probaly way down the list. But if he were smart he would start it (which he has) right now because he can slip it passed many who are side tracked with the economy right now!!![V]
I say they were blinded by color, im not saying everyone. many people voted for obama hussein terrorist without knowing anything of his policies and only cause he was black or whatever. people who disagreed with his party platforms supported him and voted for him blinded by wanting to make history by electing him. mccain may not be a gem but be realistic only two canidates with a chance, mccain and obama hussein, sorry ron paul, I would have voted for you but your name was not on the ballot so no chance. mccain would do much better then obama, he is at least a republican (somewhat) he was a war vet. with a long political history, he ran a really lame campaign.
but maybe we need to wash it all away.
You voted for gun control;
You voted for open borders, endless swarms of barbarians invading;
You voted for the New World Order;
You voted for endless wars;
You voted for free speech infringments;
You are no better then mccain.
mccain refused to support America; AS DO YOU, by your support for a traitor.
quote:Originally posted by Highball
You voted for mccain.
You voted for gun control;
You voted for open borders, endless swarms of barbarians invading;
You voted for the New World Order;
You voted for endless wars;
You voted for free speech infringments;
You are no better then mccain.
mccain refused to support America; AS DO YOU, by your support for a traitor.
You voted for gun control;
You voted for open borders, endless swarms of barbarians invading;
You voted for the New World Order;
You voted for endless wars;
You voted for free speech infringments;
You are no better then mccain.
mccain refused to support America; AS DO YOU, by your support for a traitor.
There is no 'opinion' here.
Just the facts.
Refusal to face those facts is the problem of the 'other guy'...not me.
quote:Originally posted by Highball
quote:You voted for mccain.
You voted for gun control;
You voted for open borders, endless swarms of barbarians invading;
You voted for the New World Order;
You voted for endless wars;
You voted for free speech infringments;
You are no better then mccain.
mccain refused to support America; AS DO YOU, by your support for a traitor.
There is no 'opinion' here.
Just the facts.
Refusal to face those facts is the problem of the 'other guy'...not me.
You are ALMOST as opinionated and hardheaded as I use to be!!![;)]
quote:Are you trying to get them to 'see the light' or just 'piss them off'???
I assume that you refer to this ? You so often ask such irrelevant questions, I ignore most of them.
The answer, of course, to your TWO questions is;
Hell, yes.
As has been noted herein MANY times...I am the attack dog. The people I am trying to reach ARE hard-headed individuals...and they will NOT change their opinions OR minds easily.
Many times it takes that clout between the eyes to jar their thought processes ..rather then just obedience to authority.
Many of these men came here and GOT PISSED AT ME. They did so until they thought about it awhile...as a sensible man will do.
They went to investigate ..so as to slaughter me in the next round. They were grimly furious, then, to discover the ugly truth.
Only the sycophants, the cowards, the fellow travelers, the quislings and the Beast-Lovers remain pissed.
A man discovering and treasuring the Constitution and BOR may well adopt a gentler method to convert the unknowing..but he will not condemn me for my approach, either.
Good answer HB! We need to hit them from all quarters!!! And use all different approaches.
I am sure you will chastise me for saying 'we' since I am not one of the 'brethren', but I am use it now!!![;)]
All right, Jim;
Now will you get off my back for being abrasive ?
Naturally...I intend to keep working on you about the full auto hangup you have..but someone like me is necessary in the scheme of things.
I have a pretty thick skin..so being hated by a sizeable portion of the population is just part of it.
Naturally, one would like to be loved by all...but the huge drift from Constitutional principles, and the swallowing of that drift by most, precludes any such.
was mcain really that bad? where do u find that info.
he is not into the same gun control as obama. who knows how it wouldve been, we will know however soon how its gonna be. I wont give an inch to those commies.
quote:Originally posted by therockguy
was mcain really that bad? where do u find that info.
he is not into the same gun control as obama. who knows how it wouldve been, we will know however soon how its gonna be. I wont give an inch to those commies.
I think someone open a can of worms![}:)]
Wait for it![;)]
It's sad but if you did not vote for Mccain, then you don't deserve the Right to bear arms.
By allowing Obama to win, we WILL PERMANENTLY lose most of our gun rights.
Say goodbye to hi-caps and "assault" style weapons. Hope is dead.
We lost, the American dream is dead and nothing can be done to stop it or fix it. Your children will never know what it was like. It is over.
McCain sucked, he did not get the votes...but we failed to stop Obama becoming our leader just like Germany failed to stop Hitler becoming their leader.
Those who voted against McCain were ignorantly collaborating with Obama without knowing it. Those who stayed home and did not vote did as well. The Change we can believe in is a change to fascism and we all just let it happen.
quote:Posted - 12/27/2008 : 12:58:00 PM
It's sad but if you did not vote for Mccain, then you don't deserve the Right to bear arms.
There ARE indeed people in this country unfit to keep and bear arms..120 million of them.
Those are the people that lined up to vote obamacain. A single vote for EITHER of those candidates is enough to cause a REAL American to vomit.
There is ignorance;
Then there is stupidity.
Stupidity is claiming that somehow mccain is better then the other guy. A gun controller is a gun controller ..I recognize no `degrees' of `good' versus `bad' when it comes to that subject.
Either you are an American ..OR YOU ARE NOT !!!
Americans do NOT vote for gun control...and mccain is a gun controller.
You may keep you shallow thinking to yourself, concerning whom to vote for ..for it is obvious that thinking is foreign to you.
I agree with you highball that neither was a good canidate, but you gotta be a fool to go with Obama, and your vote doesnt really count if you dont vote republican or democrat(something I would like to see change) but perhaps obama will be better due to the fact that he will be worse. I hope they make a stupid gun grab attempt so we can fix this whole mess, we keep inching closer and closer to giving up our rights to liberty alltogether, we need to take the ground back. the democrats want to see the American civilian disarmed, then what keeps them from tyranny once we have no means of defending our freedom
dont give a f^^^^^^^ inch to those commie socialist liberal fascist meanies.
quote:Posted - 12/28/2008 : 01:24:08 AM
I agree with you highball that neither was a good canidate, but you gotta be a fool to go with Obama, and your vote doesnt really count if you dont vote republican or democrat
When both candidates are nearly alike ..what possible difference can YOUR vote make ?
The absolute FACT is...there is no such thing as a `little gun control' ..Either a person believes in the Second Amendment...or he DOESN'T !!
Looking about at the ruins of the Constitution, it is a far better thing for the country to have the worst possible candidate elected ..and have him tear apart things faster and more thoroughly...then the one that will do it a bit slower.
You fence sitters will never support the Constitution until you are FORCED to.
That forcing cannot come from us, the remnant people ..the people that never left those principles...but must come from those in power by their lust for unending power.
We can do nothing at this time except keep in front of you the promise that the Constitution holds for a free people.
That is our bulwark against tyranny ..against the monsters in power today...and the utter degradation that tomorrows `leaders' intend for the people of America.
The people you SHOULD be listening to today ARE the `third party voters'...or those who REFUSED to vote for corruption IN ANY FORM.
ANY counsel from an obamacain voter needs to be scrutinized to the smallest detail...for they have PROVEN their inability to think logically.
quote:Originally posted by Highball
quote:Posted - 12/28/2008 : 01:24:08 AM
I agree with you highball that neither was a good canidate, but you gotta be a fool to go with Obama, and your vote doesnt really count if you dont vote republican or democrat
When both candidates are nearly alike ..what possible difference can YOUR vote make ?
The absolute FACT is...there is no such thing as a `little gun control' ..Either a person believes in the Second Amendment...or he DOESN'T !!
Looking about at the ruins of the Constitution, it is a far better thing for the country to have the worst possible candidate elected ..and have him tear apart things faster and more thoroughly...then the one that will do it a bit slower.
You fence sitters will never support the Constitution until you are FORCED to.
That forcing cannot come from us, the remnant people ..the people that never left those principles...but must come from those in power by their lust for unending power.
We can do nothing at this time except keep in front of you the promise that the Constitution holds for a free people.
That is our bulwark against tyranny ..against the monsters in power today...and the utter degradation that tomorrows `leaders' intend for the people of America.
The people you SHOULD be listening to today ARE the `third party voters'...or those who REFUSED to vote for corruption IN ANY FORM.
ANY counsel from an obamacain voter needs to be scrutinized to the smallest detail...for they have PROVEN their inability to think logically.
Naivety, Your ideas are wrong as WE NOW are in our darkest hour. Proof your statement is foolish at best and almost treasonous at worst. (I know your not a traitor but not understanding the reality of the horror, please understand my point we are on the same side)
1. McCain would NOT have signed the "Assault Weapon" Ban
2. Fuhrer Obama will sign the "Assault Weapon" Ban
1.a HE WILL MAKE IT PERMANENT!
Do you understand....3rd party means nothing now...you can't undue permanent in REAL LIFE.
3. McCain had no interest in MICROSTAMPING
4. Obama WILL bring about MICROSTAMPING. That means if you own a Firearm that uses rare ammo (Like my C96 or my 9MM steyr ) then it's now a paperweight. Microstamping will outlaw all foreign surplus ammo for those obsolete firearms.
I don't believe in pixies or elves or the easterbunny, i don't believe you actually think 3rd party candidates will win. I'll explain why.
1. The democrats are united, a hive minded herd.
2. We on the Right are not united, Some are pro-Drug, some anti-drug, same with Abortion, same with War. We are only united by Guns, and taxes loosely.
A third party candidate will never win the right as some issues like drugs,abortion,war and other issues divide us.
YOU need to start thinking like your fighting for your survival, because you were and you failed. We all failed. Obama won and now we WILL have rights taken away Permanently.
It's not about picking your favorite, thats a childish fantasy no politician is anything but scum. It's about defeating the guy who will do the most damage.
We sow what we reap and now we will watch our rights erode away for nothing. I DON"T care about your beliefs and I'm sure you don't care about mine...but we are in the same boat now paddling with our hands as we plunge down the waterfall..
quote:but we are in the same boat now paddling with our hands as we plunge down the waterfall..
Sorry ;
We exist in vastly different `boats'.
MY boat is staffed with men. Men that have looked the Beast in the eye, and spit in that eye.
Bring on the bans. Ban ALL weapons, Mr. And Mrs. America, turn `em all in.
We will not submit.
Your writings have been interspersed with the hopelessness of the NRA.
You all live under the iron heel...trembling in fear that boot will descend and crush the life out of you.
Your boat is staffed by the nras `stalwarts' of the country ..third-rate politicians not smart enough to make it in a REAL election..so they take money from you so they can rub shoulders with the rich and powerful they so desperately wish they could be....
You look at the coming gun bans and say "Well ..that's it ..I did my best" as you take up needlework.
1. McCain would NOT have signed the "Assault Weapon" Ban
Is that a fact? He, McCain, stated in a well known California newspaper that he would sign an AWB.
2. Fuhrer Obama will sign the "Assault Weapon" Ban
1.a HE WILL MAKE IT PERMANENT!
Do you understand....3rd party means nothing now...you can't undue permanent in REAL LIFE.
Maybe he will, and maybe it may be permanent. I'll cover the solution to that later in this post.
3. McCain had no interest in MICROSTAMPING
Really? Let me guess; he said he has no interest in it, so therefore, if he said it, it must be true. Is that how it works? It must be so, because a Republican is incapable of lying, right?
4. Obama WILL bring about MICROSTAMPING. That means if you own a Firearm that uses rare ammo (Like my C96 or my 9MM steyr ) then it's now a paperweight. Microstamping will outlaw all foreign surplus ammo for those obsolete firearms.
RCBS
I don't believe in pixies or elves or the easterbunny,
Yet you believe McCain was somehow 'good' for the Constitution. In the words of a fellow brother, Go Figure.
i don't believe you actually think 3rd party candidates will win. I'll explain why.
1. The democrats are united, a hive minded herd.
2. We on the Right are not united, Some are pro-Drug, some anti-drug, same with Abortion, same with War. We are only united by Guns, and taxes loosely.
You are correct. We are not united. Some of us believe 100% in the Constitution, and others do not. Some gun owners are actually anti-RTKBA.
A third party candidate will never win the right as some issues like drugs,abortion,war and other issues divide us.
YOU need to start thinking like your fighting for your survival,
Oh, believe me, I am. Not only that, but I firmly believe I was fighting for the survival of this Republic and individual liberty as well, hence, I could not vote for McCain.
because you were and you failed. We all failed.
You got that wrong. Do not lump me and a few others in with the 120 million that voted against the Constitution in November.
Obama won and now we WILL have rights taken away Permanently.
You need to speak for yourself, for you certainly do not speak for everyone. Government neither grants rights nor do they take them. Rights only disappear when they are handed over on a platter by the citizens. So far, the majority seem content to relinquish them.
It's not about picking your favorite, thats a childish fantasy no politician is anything but scum. It's about defeating the guy who will do the most damage.
No, it is simply about doing what is right. It is called putting priniciple ahead of popularity. It is about the refusal to compromise. It is about keeping one's integrity intact. It is about making your own decision, rather than have others do it for you. It is about being an individual, not a collectivist.
We sow what we reap and now we will watch our rights erode away for nothing.
I believe you meant 'reap what we sow', and yes, we do. Unfortunately, those of us who chose to do what is best for the Republic must also partake in the bitter harvest; a harvest which was sown by not only those who voted for Obama, but also the almost 60 million who voted for McCain.
I DON"T care about your beliefs and I'm sure you don't care about mine...but we are in the same boat now paddling with our hands as we plunge down the waterfall..
You do not have to stay in that boat, and go over the falls. However, take the plunge if you will. Hand over your rights if you wish. Accept whatever infringements may come. So be it.
I'll take my chances in the water, hanging onto the rocks if necessary, and swimming against the current.
quote:We sow what we reap and now we will watch our rights erode away for nothing.
Firedude ; Beautiful. Well said, and my deepest thanks.
The only thing is...this guy has it right ..in spite of the fact he didn't mean what he said.
We live in a world of hybrid seeds. When one attempts to harvest the seeds, and replant them next spring...a curious thing happens.
These seeds are not the seeds of our fathers ..not Heritage seeds. They do not germinate well...and mostly the plants are sterile ..they bear no fruit. What fruit that is born is often a twisted caricature of the original healthy fruit...
What a splendid example of american males, today.....sterile hybrids of those magnificent bastarrds ..those giants of men ..the Founders.
The poster has it absolutely correct ..all without the slightest knowledge of the subject of which he speaks.
quote:Originally posted by Highball
quote:We sow what we reap and now we will watch our rights erode away for nothing.
Firedude ; Beautiful. Well said, and my deepest thanks.
The only thing is...this guy has it right ..in spite of the fact he didn't mean what he said.
We live in a world of hybrid seeds. When one attempts to harvest the seeds, and replant them next spring...a curious thing happens.
These seeds are not the seeds of our fathers ..not Heritage seeds. They do not germinate well...and mostly the plants are sterile ..they bear no fruit. What fruit that is born is often a twisted caricature of the original healthy fruit...
What a splendid example of american males, today.....sterile hybrids of those magnificent bastarrds ..those giants of men ..the Founders.
The poster has it absolutely correct ..all without the slightest knowledge of the subject of which he speaks.
Internet bravado yet again, let's talk tough about not submitting while your bending over to Obama.
I don't believe any of the "let em take my guns" canyass bull. It's ignoring the danger.
Obama does not have the political capital to do that yet if ever.
It's about limiting gun sales to harm the industry. I get that, I own my own company and know the way corporations work.
First Obama will reinstate the "assault weapons bill" That will harm companies that produce firearm Magazines, Stocks,and even grips along with other things. With the taxes about to rise it will get bad.
Then they will make it easier to sue companies, gun stores and such to further the financial burden to these companies.
Then Microstamping WILL be enacted, harming ammunition sales to civilians and turning many Existing firearms obsolete and useless...why should they take them? They just need to take the ammo.
At this point you will see companies going under, bankrupt.
So understand, Obama is more interested in making Existing guns obsolete and empty than in taking them. He's interested in fining any accident because of them. They want to end the industry to stop any more guns coming out there.
With less new guns, buy backs and criminal confiscations will start eating up the remaining guns of many. America will not care because "they still have their guns".
Then they will either pressure new ammunition to become less and less compatible with older weapons or simply ignore us gun owners as they know we are NOT criminals and go to enact laws in the future about passing on firearms to our kids.
Remember how S&W rolled over with Clinton, Remember why so much American made guns went to Europe? It's not about you and your guns, your NO threat...It's about attacking the industry.
quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
And you actually believe that McCain (or any other of our recent choices) would not do the same?
No I don't. Hillary could not have either, but the Medias love for Obama and the voters he brings gives him the capital to actually do these things. McCain would make mistakes but Obama is a clever tyrant who actively is looking to destroy our rights.
If we stand by and allow those things to happen just exactly as you predict...then we deserve to lose every weapon we have and possess.
We can stop pretending to be 'free'..a condition that 90 % of americans have not the slightest comprehension what it means.
Do you grasp what I am saying ? I am willing to throw the dice. You may well be content to live under the present level of tyranny...or maybe just a little more, under your republican heroes.
I am not.
I will never pick up a weapon to hasten the demise of America...but I would vote for a Total gun ban...police start picking them up Monday.
I want people FORCED to chose...fight or submit.
The quicker the better. My path beats yours all to hell...for in spite of your assurances, I think that your republicans are aiming at EXACTLY the same target as democrats...but they are smarter. They would drag this thing out another 20-30 years...while the democrats will push faster.
Faster, in this case, is better.
There, bluntly, crudely, and honestly is my platform. You may ridicule, doubt, and accuse me of whatever you wish.
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[V]This is one of the things that gets my goat BIG TIME!!!
ALL cops, prosecutors, and judges take am oath to 'support and defend the Constitution' yet they continue to enforce the UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS which stop people for owning, carrying, and using 'arms' by arresting, prosecuting, and punishing people for exercising their rights. [V]
quote:Originally posted by shootuadeal
oath
[V]This is one of the things that gets my goat BIG TIME!!!
ALL cops, prosecutors, and judges take am oath to 'support and defend the Constitution' yet they, MANY not all, continue to enforce the UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS which stop people for owning, carrying, and using 'arms' by arresting, prosecuting, and punishing people for exercising their rights. [V]
I added MANY NOT ALL to the above to clarify this. There are a few who do take the oath seriously, but damn few!!![V]
What is the excuse for the mccain voters ? Utter stupidity ?
Frankly, both conditions are indications of mental conditions...but those voting 'color' have a real chance to overcome their disability.
Those voting mccain are terminal...no hope there at all.
some of America was blindsided by wanting to make "history" (hitler made history too) the rest were only stupid, what the heck is wrong with Americans today, we need a revolution in order to fix what many have become. people were blinded by color and making history, not all history is good.
Smart people learn from their mistakes.
Smarter people learn for their mistakes and the mistakes of others around them.
The Smartest people learn from their mistakes, the the mistakes of people around them AND FROM HISTORY!!![;)]
quote:Originally posted by shootuadeal
oath
[V]This is one of the things that gets my goat BIG TIME!!!
ALL cops, prosecutors, and judges take am oath to 'support and defend the Constitution' yet they continue to enforce the UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS which stop people for owning, carrying, and using 'arms' by arresting, prosecuting, and punishing people for exercising their rights. [V]
Not all of us do Jim.[;)]
quote:Originally posted by Jim Rau
quote:Originally posted by shootuadeal
oath
[V]This is one of the things that gets my goat BIG TIME!!!
ALL cops, prosecutors, and judges take am oath to 'support and defend the Constitution' yet they, MANY not all, continue to enforce the UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS which stop people for owning, carrying, and using 'arms' by arresting, prosecuting, and punishing people for exercising their rights. [V]
I added MANY NOT ALL to the above to clarify this. There are a few who do take the oath seriously, but damn few!!![V]
I made the correction already Jeff! You didn't read far enough![:D]
Oops, go figure. First reply in awhile and I go and step on my pecker.[:I][:D]
quote:I made the correction already Jeff! You didn't read far enough!
Oops, go figure. First reply in awhile and I go and step on my pecker.[:I][:D]
No, I stepped on mine for not getting right the first time![8)]
Alarmist Nonsense ! U really think they want to lose congress over guns again ! WAKE UP ! Oh and Obama is not a Reptilian or Alien, Just a Liberal Black Power Jerk.
Yes, self preservation is a basic instinct. But decades of liberalism can override logic, even in the self preservation area.
We will have to see. But right now he has so much on his plate anti-gun is probaly way down the list. But if he were smart he would start it (which he has) right now because he can slip it passed many who are side tracked with the economy right now!!![V]
but maybe we need to wash it all away.
You voted for gun control;
You voted for open borders, endless swarms of barbarians invading;
You voted for the New World Order;
You voted for endless wars;
You voted for free speech infringments;
You are no better then mccain.
mccain refused to support America; AS DO YOU, by your support for a traitor.
You voted for mccain.
You voted for gun control;
You voted for open borders, endless swarms of barbarians invading;
You voted for the New World Order;
You voted for endless wars;
You voted for free speech infringments;
You are no better then mccain.
mccain refused to support America; AS DO YOU, by your support for a traitor.
I saw this one comming!!![:D]
Until the listener GETS it...or the hammerer just gets tired of repeating themselves and is willing to allow ignorance to flourish.
One MUST hammer home the obvious, over and over and over.
Until the listener GETS it...or the hammerer just gets tired of repeating themselves and is willing to allow ignorance to flourish.
Amen. HB!
But you might preface your response with:
'It is my opinion that you'
But then again this is obvious![;)]
Are you trying to get them to 'see the light' or just 'piss them off'???[:0]
You voted for gun control;
You voted for open borders, endless swarms of barbarians invading;
You voted for the New World Order;
You voted for endless wars;
You voted for free speech infringments;
You are no better then mccain.
mccain refused to support America; AS DO YOU, by your support for a traitor.
There is no 'opinion' here.
Just the facts.
Refusal to face those facts is the problem of the 'other guy'...not me.
quote:You voted for mccain.
You voted for gun control;
You voted for open borders, endless swarms of barbarians invading;
You voted for the New World Order;
You voted for endless wars;
You voted for free speech infringments;
You are no better then mccain.
mccain refused to support America; AS DO YOU, by your support for a traitor.
There is no 'opinion' here.
Just the facts.
Refusal to face those facts is the problem of the 'other guy'...not me.
You are ALMOST as opinionated and hardheaded as I use to be!!![;)]
You didn't answer the question???[:0]
I assume that you refer to this ? You so often ask such irrelevant questions, I ignore most of them.
The answer, of course, to your TWO questions is;
Hell, yes.
As has been noted herein MANY times...I am the attack dog. The people I am trying to reach ARE hard-headed individuals...and they will NOT change their opinions OR minds easily.
Many times it takes that clout between the eyes to jar their thought processes ..rather then just obedience to authority.
Many of these men came here and GOT PISSED AT ME. They did so until they thought about it awhile...as a sensible man will do.
They went to investigate ..so as to slaughter me in the next round. They were grimly furious, then, to discover the ugly truth.
Only the sycophants, the cowards, the fellow travelers, the quislings and the Beast-Lovers remain pissed.
A man discovering and treasuring the Constitution and BOR may well adopt a gentler method to convert the unknowing..but he will not condemn me for my approach, either.
I am sure you will chastise me for saying 'we' since I am not one of the 'brethren', but I am use it now!!![;)]
Now will you get off my back for being abrasive ?
Naturally...I intend to keep working on you about the full auto hangup you have..but someone like me is necessary in the scheme of things.
I have a pretty thick skin..so being hated by a sizeable portion of the population is just part of it.
Naturally, one would like to be loved by all...but the huge drift from Constitutional principles, and the swallowing of that drift by most, precludes any such.
Merry Christmas and
Happy New Year![:)]
I hope we don't see the need for blood letting in the new year![V]
Back at you. Have a simple splendid Merry Christmas and New Years.
Time will tell about the rest of it.
By the way...you have become, for a while now, one of the cast of charactors that I would enjoy meeting for chow and a bit of adult beverages.
he is not into the same gun control as obama. who knows how it wouldve been, we will know however soon how its gonna be. I wont give an inch to those commies.
was mcain really that bad? where do u find that info.
he is not into the same gun control as obama. who knows how it wouldve been, we will know however soon how its gonna be. I wont give an inch to those commies.
I think someone open a can of worms![}:)]
Wait for it![;)]
By allowing Obama to win, we WILL PERMANENTLY lose most of our gun rights.
Say goodbye to hi-caps and "assault" style weapons. Hope is dead.
We lost, the American dream is dead and nothing can be done to stop it or fix it. Your children will never know what it was like. It is over.
McCain sucked, he did not get the votes...but we failed to stop Obama becoming our leader just like Germany failed to stop Hitler becoming their leader.
Those who voted against McCain were ignorantly collaborating with Obama without knowing it. Those who stayed home and did not vote did as well. The Change we can believe in is a change to fascism and we all just let it happen.
It's sad but if you did not vote for Mccain, then you don't deserve the Right to bear arms.
There ARE indeed people in this country unfit to keep and bear arms..120 million of them.
Those are the people that lined up to vote obamacain. A single vote for EITHER of those candidates is enough to cause a REAL American to vomit.
There is ignorance;
Then there is stupidity.
Stupidity is claiming that somehow mccain is better then the other guy. A gun controller is a gun controller ..I recognize no `degrees' of `good' versus `bad' when it comes to that subject.
Either you are an American ..OR YOU ARE NOT !!!
Americans do NOT vote for gun control...and mccain is a gun controller.
You may keep you shallow thinking to yourself, concerning whom to vote for ..for it is obvious that thinking is foreign to you.
dont give a f^^^^^^^ inch to those commie socialist liberal fascist meanies.
I agree with you highball that neither was a good canidate, but you gotta be a fool to go with Obama, and your vote doesnt really count if you dont vote republican or democrat
When both candidates are nearly alike ..what possible difference can YOUR vote make ?
The absolute FACT is...there is no such thing as a `little gun control' ..Either a person believes in the Second Amendment...or he DOESN'T !!
Looking about at the ruins of the Constitution, it is a far better thing for the country to have the worst possible candidate elected ..and have him tear apart things faster and more thoroughly...then the one that will do it a bit slower.
You fence sitters will never support the Constitution until you are FORCED to.
That forcing cannot come from us, the remnant people ..the people that never left those principles...but must come from those in power by their lust for unending power.
We can do nothing at this time except keep in front of you the promise that the Constitution holds for a free people.
That is our bulwark against tyranny ..against the monsters in power today...and the utter degradation that tomorrows `leaders' intend for the people of America.
The people you SHOULD be listening to today ARE the `third party voters'...or those who REFUSED to vote for corruption IN ANY FORM.
ANY counsel from an obamacain voter needs to be scrutinized to the smallest detail...for they have PROVEN their inability to think logically.
quote:Posted - 12/28/2008 : 01:24:08 AM
I agree with you highball that neither was a good canidate, but you gotta be a fool to go with Obama, and your vote doesnt really count if you dont vote republican or democrat
When both candidates are nearly alike ..what possible difference can YOUR vote make ?
The absolute FACT is...there is no such thing as a `little gun control' ..Either a person believes in the Second Amendment...or he DOESN'T !!
Looking about at the ruins of the Constitution, it is a far better thing for the country to have the worst possible candidate elected ..and have him tear apart things faster and more thoroughly...then the one that will do it a bit slower.
You fence sitters will never support the Constitution until you are FORCED to.
That forcing cannot come from us, the remnant people ..the people that never left those principles...but must come from those in power by their lust for unending power.
We can do nothing at this time except keep in front of you the promise that the Constitution holds for a free people.
That is our bulwark against tyranny ..against the monsters in power today...and the utter degradation that tomorrows `leaders' intend for the people of America.
The people you SHOULD be listening to today ARE the `third party voters'...or those who REFUSED to vote for corruption IN ANY FORM.
ANY counsel from an obamacain voter needs to be scrutinized to the smallest detail...for they have PROVEN their inability to think logically.
Naivety, Your ideas are wrong as WE NOW are in our darkest hour. Proof your statement is foolish at best and almost treasonous at worst. (I know your not a traitor but not understanding the reality of the horror, please understand my point we are on the same side)
1. McCain would NOT have signed the "Assault Weapon" Ban
2. Fuhrer Obama will sign the "Assault Weapon" Ban
1.a HE WILL MAKE IT PERMANENT!
Do you understand....3rd party means nothing now...you can't undue permanent in REAL LIFE.
3. McCain had no interest in MICROSTAMPING
4. Obama WILL bring about MICROSTAMPING. That means if you own a Firearm that uses rare ammo (Like my C96 or my 9MM steyr ) then it's now a paperweight. Microstamping will outlaw all foreign surplus ammo for those obsolete firearms.
I don't believe in pixies or elves or the easterbunny, i don't believe you actually think 3rd party candidates will win. I'll explain why.
1. The democrats are united, a hive minded herd.
2. We on the Right are not united, Some are pro-Drug, some anti-drug, same with Abortion, same with War. We are only united by Guns, and taxes loosely.
A third party candidate will never win the right as some issues like drugs,abortion,war and other issues divide us.
YOU need to start thinking like your fighting for your survival, because you were and you failed. We all failed. Obama won and now we WILL have rights taken away Permanently.
It's not about picking your favorite, thats a childish fantasy no politician is anything but scum. It's about defeating the guy who will do the most damage.
We sow what we reap and now we will watch our rights erode away for nothing. I DON"T care about your beliefs and I'm sure you don't care about mine...but we are in the same boat now paddling with our hands as we plunge down the waterfall..
Sorry ;
We exist in vastly different `boats'.
MY boat is staffed with men. Men that have looked the Beast in the eye, and spit in that eye.
Bring on the bans. Ban ALL weapons, Mr. And Mrs. America, turn `em all in.
We will not submit.
Your writings have been interspersed with the hopelessness of the NRA.
You all live under the iron heel...trembling in fear that boot will descend and crush the life out of you.
Your boat is staffed by the nras `stalwarts' of the country ..third-rate politicians not smart enough to make it in a REAL election..so they take money from you so they can rub shoulders with the rich and powerful they so desperately wish they could be....
You look at the coming gun bans and say "Well ..that's it ..I did my best" as you take up needlework.
We that will fight say......."MOLON LABE" !!!!!!
1. McCain would NOT have signed the "Assault Weapon" Ban
Is that a fact? He, McCain, stated in a well known California newspaper that he would sign an AWB.
2. Fuhrer Obama will sign the "Assault Weapon" Ban
1.a HE WILL MAKE IT PERMANENT!
Do you understand....3rd party means nothing now...you can't undue permanent in REAL LIFE.
Maybe he will, and maybe it may be permanent. I'll cover the solution to that later in this post.
3. McCain had no interest in MICROSTAMPING
Really? Let me guess; he said he has no interest in it, so therefore, if he said it, it must be true. Is that how it works? It must be so, because a Republican is incapable of lying, right?
4. Obama WILL bring about MICROSTAMPING. That means if you own a Firearm that uses rare ammo (Like my C96 or my 9MM steyr ) then it's now a paperweight. Microstamping will outlaw all foreign surplus ammo for those obsolete firearms.
RCBS
I don't believe in pixies or elves or the easterbunny,
Yet you believe McCain was somehow 'good' for the Constitution. In the words of a fellow brother, Go Figure.
i don't believe you actually think 3rd party candidates will win. I'll explain why.
1. The democrats are united, a hive minded herd.
2. We on the Right are not united, Some are pro-Drug, some anti-drug, same with Abortion, same with War. We are only united by Guns, and taxes loosely.
You are correct. We are not united. Some of us believe 100% in the Constitution, and others do not. Some gun owners are actually anti-RTKBA.
A third party candidate will never win the right as some issues like drugs,abortion,war and other issues divide us.
YOU need to start thinking like your fighting for your survival,
Oh, believe me, I am. Not only that, but I firmly believe I was fighting for the survival of this Republic and individual liberty as well, hence, I could not vote for McCain.
because you were and you failed. We all failed.
You got that wrong. Do not lump me and a few others in with the 120 million that voted against the Constitution in November.
Obama won and now we WILL have rights taken away Permanently.
You need to speak for yourself, for you certainly do not speak for everyone. Government neither grants rights nor do they take them. Rights only disappear when they are handed over on a platter by the citizens. So far, the majority seem content to relinquish them.
It's not about picking your favorite, thats a childish fantasy no politician is anything but scum. It's about defeating the guy who will do the most damage.
No, it is simply about doing what is right. It is called putting priniciple ahead of popularity. It is about the refusal to compromise. It is about keeping one's integrity intact. It is about making your own decision, rather than have others do it for you. It is about being an individual, not a collectivist.
We sow what we reap and now we will watch our rights erode away for nothing.
I believe you meant 'reap what we sow', and yes, we do. Unfortunately, those of us who chose to do what is best for the Republic must also partake in the bitter harvest; a harvest which was sown by not only those who voted for Obama, but also the almost 60 million who voted for McCain.
I DON"T care about your beliefs and I'm sure you don't care about mine...but we are in the same boat now paddling with our hands as we plunge down the waterfall..
You do not have to stay in that boat, and go over the falls. However, take the plunge if you will. Hand over your rights if you wish. Accept whatever infringements may come. So be it.
I'll take my chances in the water, hanging onto the rocks if necessary, and swimming against the current.
Firedude ; Beautiful. Well said, and my deepest thanks.
The only thing is...this guy has it right ..in spite of the fact he didn't mean what he said.
We live in a world of hybrid seeds. When one attempts to harvest the seeds, and replant them next spring...a curious thing happens.
These seeds are not the seeds of our fathers ..not Heritage seeds. They do not germinate well...and mostly the plants are sterile ..they bear no fruit. What fruit that is born is often a twisted caricature of the original healthy fruit...
What a splendid example of american males, today.....sterile hybrids of those magnificent bastarrds ..those giants of men ..the Founders.
The poster has it absolutely correct ..all without the slightest knowledge of the subject of which he speaks.
I had not looked at it from that angle.
quote:We sow what we reap and now we will watch our rights erode away for nothing.
Firedude ; Beautiful. Well said, and my deepest thanks.
The only thing is...this guy has it right ..in spite of the fact he didn't mean what he said.
We live in a world of hybrid seeds. When one attempts to harvest the seeds, and replant them next spring...a curious thing happens.
These seeds are not the seeds of our fathers ..not Heritage seeds. They do not germinate well...and mostly the plants are sterile ..they bear no fruit. What fruit that is born is often a twisted caricature of the original healthy fruit...
What a splendid example of american males, today.....sterile hybrids of those magnificent bastarrds ..those giants of men ..the Founders.
The poster has it absolutely correct ..all without the slightest knowledge of the subject of which he speaks.
Unless you are planting Appleseeds!!!!!!!!!
I don't believe any of the "let em take my guns" canyass bull. It's ignoring the danger.
Obama does not have the political capital to do that yet if ever.
It's about limiting gun sales to harm the industry. I get that, I own my own company and know the way corporations work.
First Obama will reinstate the "assault weapons bill" That will harm companies that produce firearm Magazines, Stocks,and even grips along with other things. With the taxes about to rise it will get bad.
Then they will make it easier to sue companies, gun stores and such to further the financial burden to these companies.
Then Microstamping WILL be enacted, harming ammunition sales to civilians and turning many Existing firearms obsolete and useless...why should they take them? They just need to take the ammo.
At this point you will see companies going under, bankrupt.
So understand, Obama is more interested in making Existing guns obsolete and empty than in taking them. He's interested in fining any accident because of them. They want to end the industry to stop any more guns coming out there.
With less new guns, buy backs and criminal confiscations will start eating up the remaining guns of many. America will not care because "they still have their guns".
Then they will either pressure new ammunition to become less and less compatible with older weapons or simply ignore us gun owners as they know we are NOT criminals and go to enact laws in the future about passing on firearms to our kids.
Remember how S&W rolled over with Clinton, Remember why so much American made guns went to Europe? It's not about you and your guns, your NO threat...It's about attacking the industry.
There will be no gov. bailouts for them...
And you actually believe that McCain (or any other of our recent choices) would not do the same?
No I don't. Hillary could not have either, but the Medias love for Obama and the voters he brings gives him the capital to actually do these things. McCain would make mistakes but Obama is a clever tyrant who actively is looking to destroy our rights.
We can stop pretending to be 'free'..a condition that 90 % of americans have not the slightest comprehension what it means.
Do you grasp what I am saying ? I am willing to throw the dice. You may well be content to live under the present level of tyranny...or maybe just a little more, under your republican heroes.
I am not.
I will never pick up a weapon to hasten the demise of America...but I would vote for a Total gun ban...police start picking them up Monday.
I want people FORCED to chose...fight or submit.
The quicker the better. My path beats yours all to hell...for in spite of your assurances, I think that your republicans are aiming at EXACTLY the same target as democrats...but they are smarter. They would drag this thing out another 20-30 years...while the democrats will push faster.
Faster, in this case, is better.
There, bluntly, crudely, and honestly is my platform. You may ridicule, doubt, and accuse me of whatever you wish.
Changes nothing for me.