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New Assault Weapons BAN
GuvamintCheese
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This is how it might read..?????
1. No NEW assault weapons made or imported for the general population.
2. All assult weapons that are out there have to be registered to the owner.
3. All high cap magazines are immediatly illegal.
4. Any one with 2 or more misdemeanors will not be allowed to own a gun.
5. concealed carry permits will cease. and possibly expire the existing??
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1. No NEW assault weapons made or imported for the general population.
2. All assult weapons that are out there have to be registered to the owner.
3. All high cap magazines are immediatly illegal.
4. Any one with 2 or more misdemeanors will not be allowed to own a gun.
5. concealed carry permits will cease. and possibly expire the existing??
///?????
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Ben
The CCW laws are State by State, not Federal laws. I don't know if the Federal government can override these laws. The rest are at least possible.
If they can ignore the Constutution, State laws mean nothing.
This is how it might read..?????
1. No NEW assault weapons made or imported for the general population.
2. All assult weapons that are out there have to be registered to the owner.
3. All high cap magazines are immediatly illegal.
4. Any one with 2 or more misdemeanors will not be allowed to own a gun.
5. concieled carry permits will cease. and possibly expire the exhisting??
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6. enforce spell check laws[:D]
There's already an import ban - courtesy of the GOP and George HW Bush.
New? Where have you been? It's an accomplished fact.[:(!]
Its not a matter of being trustworthy. To me its about purpose, on a battlefield you need to have the "bigger gun". But stateside do you need to have something with that kind of power?
"Kapeesh?"
"That while I'm deployed to Iraq I can be trusted with fully automatic weapons, but while stateside I'm suddenly no longer trustworthy?"
Its not a matter of being trustworthy. To me its about purpose, on a battlefield you need to have the "bigger gun". But stateside do you need to have something with that kind of power?
"Kapeesh?"
And you can guarantee that as a long term permanent condition based on what all seeing crystal ball that you own?
quote:Its not a matter of being trustworthy. To me its about purpose, on a battlefield you need to have the "bigger gun". But stateside do you need to have something with that kind of power?
"Kapeesh?"
...IF I want to YES!
...and as PB said, it's not a matter of "need" dude, KAPEESH??
What's your definition of "BIG"? "FIREPOWER"? "PURPOSE"?
I can tell by your post, it AIN'T the same as mine, nor your understanding of the whole Constitution, much less the 2nd...[;)]
it's not about need, life is not about need, it is about want and the freedom that we have to want. People do not NEED things like cars that drive faster than 80, motorhomes, houses over 1000 sq ft or to eat more than 700 calories per day. But I WANT to have a Bently GT that goes 180MPH, a motorhome so I don't have to sleep on the ground when I go camping, a 4000 sq ft home so I can streach out and a 32 OZ prime rib that has 5000 calories. I don't NEED them but I have the freedome to WANT them. Same thing goes for guns, you do not NEED anything more than a single shot, but I WANT a minigun so I can burn 3000 rds per min
"That while I'm deployed to Iraq I can be trusted with fully automatic weapons, but while stateside I'm suddenly no longer trustworthy?"
Its not a matter of being trustworthy. To me its about purpose, on a battlefield you need to have the "bigger gun". But stateside do you need to have something with that kind of power?
"Kapeesh?"
Lynx, I think you are missing the point.
This is an AR15 .223 semi-auto (same basic rifle as what our troops use in Iraq). This is availible to any person 18yrs old legal to own a gun. It shoots a round as fast as you can pull the trigger.
THIS is a Remington 7400 30-06 (one of the more common rifles used to hunt with). This rifle is almost 3 times as "powerful" as the AR15. This is availible to any person 18yrs old legal to own a gun. It shoots a round as fast as you can pull the trigger.
So when you say "do you need to have something with that kind of power?" , do you really mean, "do you need something that looks so scary to the sheeple?". Because when you sit back and look at it, your argument on "power" really doesn't hold water. "kapeesh?"[:D] You see banning the "assult rifles" is just the dems easy/first excuse because they "look" scary. There is really no logic to their reasoning. Where do you stop?
Ben
There should be ban on owning more than three guns.
Typically, sportsmen & women own a shotgun, rifle and a 22.
There is no real reason why someone should own an arsenal of firearms that could easily be misused or stolen.
A simple limitation of the number of firearms owned by an individual would not affect the sacred right to keep and bears arms and will greatly reduce accidental shootings and other gun violence.
If someone has a real need for more than three firearms ther could be a special license for that and they could be stored by the local police for the public's safety.
Also, handguns should be highly regulated since most sportsmen and women are not hanguuners and those who buy them do so out of fear and intend on shooting another human in some sort of unknown future confrontation.
Why should anyone own an assault rifle or high cap mags?[:o)]
I am curious why do you need a assault weapon and a Hi-Cap mags. And I am a gun owner and as nice/cool it would be to own a full auto I just dont see the point in owning one.
You must not watch the News or read History Books... or else you would know.
That AR15 in the photo should be banned immediately!!! That bayonet lug on the barrel alone could kill a dozen people on acitty street just by looking at it for more than a second.
Also, that Remington semi-auto rifle needs to be banned. Any criminal, terrorist, or white racist could easily attach a bayonet lug and a hi-cap magazine and sweep the streets with it.
The anti-gun crowds mission is to completely disarm the civilian population. They start with the "evil looking" assault weapons because people like you go along with it by saying, gee, I really dont need high-cap mags and an assault weapon.
Once they have banned the AW's they go after semi-auto hunting rifles like the Remington jbw1776 posted a pic of because, geeez we dont need semi's to hunt, we can use a bolt action.
Next they go after handguns because they are concealable and are favored by criminals............ get the picture. if they can somehow justify chipping away slowly at your right to keep and bear arms, "THEY ABSOLUTELY WILL".
Eventually, they will come after whatever guns you have. Now that the Dems have seized power again, stand by for another wave of legislation to chip away at the 2nd amendment.
owners and sportsmen saying "who needs that kind of firearm anyways".
One by one different type of firearms were banned and put on the "restricted" list until the government knew they had a compliant population and then came the National Registration where frightened law abiding gun owners handed in their heirlooms and sporting firearms.
Today, a man with a gun in Canada is viewed by the indoctinated public as either a criminal or a potential threat to the community rather than a man hunting birds or shooting clays.
The gun club I belong to shudders when I show up with my machineguns (semi-auto military style rifles)and has put a three round limit for "assault rifles" while their grandsons' shoot their 20 round Ruger 10-22.
It's gun owners exactly like yourself that are going to give all our gun rights away, little by little. The ones that pull out their deer rifles once a year, pop of a few rounds to check the sights, sit in a stand possibly shoot a deer, and then return the rifle to the safe until next year. You don't understand, want, or see the need to own an "assult rifle". You could care less if they banned those, but do you really think they are going to stop there? Now that you KNOW the difference between an "assult rifle" and your hunting rifle, (the Evil Black Rifle, scary look difference), and see that there really is NO difference, what guns do you think are next on the old chopping block? Your deer rifle, that's what. You may or may not care then.
As for purpose. Being as the AR15 isn't all that "powerful", and not really suited for very large game (you can't just scared a deer to death by it's evil look you know[:X]), I use my AR for coyotes. While I hear they ARE rather scared by its look, they would much rather me use it than have me bust out my truly "powerful" deer rifle on them. So there it has a purpose, if you must have one.[8D]
Ben
I am curious why do you need a assault weapon and a Hi-Cap mags. And I am a gun owner and as nice/cool it would be to own a full auto I just dont see the point in owning one.
I dont see the point in owning a car that can go 115mph but I will defend your right to own one. I dont see the point in talking about the merits of Nazis but I will defend your right to free speech. Does anyone in America remember the constitution anymore ?
quote:Originally posted by lynx_strife
I am curious why do you need a assault weapon and a Hi-Cap mags. And I am a gun owner and as nice/cool it would be to own a full auto I just dont see the point in owning one.
I dont see the point in owning a car that can go 115mph but I will defend your right to own one. I dont see the point in talking about the merits of Nazis but I will defend your right to free speech. Does anyone in America remember the constitution anymore ?
Right On! What is troubling is that these school shooting have turned assault weapons into the an easy target for the dems. If they go, handguns might not be to far behind. the NRA needs to start spending my money now, trying to educate the masses on why we do not want to loose our right to bare arms.
Hmmm...well after all of this and some web searching...(hate being stuck at work) And a little soul searching, I can now understand the point you have made. Its like there is no gray just black and white. Thank you for giving me a little insite about this topic.
Incredibly glad to hear. You are definately not a dem/liberal because you clearly have the ability to reason.[8D]
Too many gun owners can't/won't grasp the concept that it simply has nothing to do with needing/wanting "assult rifles", it's about removing ALL guns period, and when you let them remove one it makes it that much easier to remove the rest.[V]
Ben
I am curious why do you need a assault weapon and a Hi-Cap mags. And I am a gun owner and as nice/cool it would be to own a full auto I just dont see the point in owning one.
I am quite certin the british would have loved for us to only have long bows and pikes[xx(]
Don
And too Nwcid lecture..j/k great post by the way.
I have shot a number of black rifles that other people own. But a machinegun I regret to say no. Looks like alot of fun. Too think of the shear number of watermellons waste...oooo..(watermellons are my current favorit thing to shoot this year. Last year it was pumpkins and various mellons.
But I would like to apolgize for these post. Since they are not how I think/feel about firearms.
In my place of work I get alot of people with diffrent views and most the time they are very vocal. (I work in a Knife Specility Shop)And I defend and try and get alot of people to understand that a knife is not a weapon. Its the person that uses it that makes it what it is.
Thank god im not a liberal....now that I go over and read what I posted I feel a little disgusted with my self.
And too Nwcid lecture..j/k great post by the way.
I have shot a number of black rifles that other people own. But a machinegun I regret to say no. Looks like alot of fun. Too think of the shear number of watermellons waste...oooo..(watermellons are my current favorit thing to shoot this year. Last year it was pumpkins and various mellons.
But I would like to apolgize for these post. Since they are not how I think/feel about firearms.
In my place of work I get alot of people with diffrent views and most the time they are very vocal. (I work in a Knife Specility Shop)And I defend and try and get alot of people to understand that a knife is not a weapon. Its the person that uses it that makes it what it is.
No need to apoligize Linx.[8D] Thats what these forums are for (did I actually print that, Dons gonna have a hayday with that one[:D]), for mature people to get together and DISCUSS different viewpoints. Although I think we rammed it home on you[:D]), you never know who's reading these posts. There may very well be some lurker that never thought of the consequences of giving their RIGHTS away, even if that right is little or of no concern to themself.
Ben
Now what you should apolgize for is living in one of the MOST gun friendly states and not shooting a machinegun. [:D] Dr. John says take $100-$200, go to you local gun shop and find out when a group is having a MG shoot. You will have a great day. [:p] Make sure you bring a video camera, it is well worth it.
If you should happen to ever fire that round you will have to fill out form #b7u3l8l2s6h4i9t and get an audit from the ATF. To recieve a replacement round there will be a 90 day waiting period.
Why should anyone own more than three guns?
There should be ban on owning more than three guns.
Typically, sportsmen & women own a shotgun, rifle and a 22.
Why should anyone own an assault rifle or high cap mags?[:o)]
For your first question, there are many types of shooting/hunting out there that require different types of weapons. I'ld be willing to bet that you own more than 3 pairs of shoes. Same principal.
Have anything to support your "Typically speaking..." statement. I would venture a guess that most of us here own more than 3 guns.
Sport shooting is the answer to your last question. It's quite enjoyable to blow off 20-50 rounds (in some cases more) as fast as you can pull the tirgger.