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Capital Punishment- Pro or Con
swift
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Taking a survey to add to my book. I'm sure most of you are pro 2nd amendment, like myself, tell me if you are pro or con Capital punishment, add any comments you wish.
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When they bring back firing squads, I hope to have name name on the list of riflemen (or pistoleros, either is fine).
One additional law to be added....Any cop, Attorney, Judge that conceals information or railroads an innocent victim...takes the place of the convicted person on the gallows....
The jails are full of innocent people..put there by corruption of officials.
I feel that too many innocent people have most likely been executed in the history of the USA
I like to think that violent rapists and child molesters could get capital punishment, but I am afraid of what kind of doors that would open (seeing how people have been convicted of child molestation based on the false accusations of one misguided youth, and likewise with false allegations of "date rape").
A lot of people think that you can't be "pro-life" and pro-capital punishment. In my mind the difference is simple, the 5th and 14th Amendments grant us the rights to life, liberty, and property, unless denied by the DUE PROCESS OF LAW. I think every death row inmate has received a jury trial. I don't recall any fetus that received a jury trial before being aborted.
-WW
"...That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state."
-The Debates in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Virginia, on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution. June 27, 1788.
Adding to that... anyone who ramifies the US Constitution is waging waragainst the citizens of the US, and thus are guilty of treason. Such should also be sentenced to death.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
I would support hard labor for life inprisonment, though.
I Understand you position.
Too bad we couldn't train our criminals to give their victims a fighting chance....
Society has a duty...unpleasant as it is..to remove bad seed from the gene pool.
The gene pool needs chlorine.
Pro all the way. The process is flawed. One appeal and then time to meet the Reaper.
The penalty should be expanded to include rapists, child molesters, and habitual criminals, as in "three strikes, you're dead".
PA has a thriving prison industry, and unfortunatly its the only growth industry in the state.
Kill of these worthless P.O.S. that populate the prison system, and pave the G**damn roads wtih the saved funds!!
"Mongo only pawn in game of life"
You are correct Sir. You may or may not know that not too long ago rape and child molesting were capital crimes in many states. I can remember executions for rape. Eventually the public will have had enough, and the laws will change or there will be a return of vigilantes. When the government will not or can not maintain order, the citizens will, and rightly so.
Perhaps if we also made the False Accusation of rape or molestation a capital crime, then I may go along with it. But I would hate to see the guy that gets put to death and then months later we find out it was all a sham.
-WW
"...That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state."
-The Debates in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Virginia, on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution. June 27, 1788.
Before the perp is executed...he would be strapped on a gurney and asked a simple question..."Did you commit this crime you were convicted of.."
The answer is no..? Then the question start down the chain of officials..until those lying are found....
Only God can make a Boatswain's Mate!
I've worked in a Virginia jail for over 20 years.
Just to toss in another angle though, why don't we go to "professional" jurors ? Do you really want your fate decided by 12 people who couldn't figure out how to get out of jury duty ?
This would be an alright thing, provided they were fully aware jurors, and knew what jury nullification was.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
I share your sentiments on punishing rapists and molesters, however given the manipulative and vindictive society we live in currently I cannot in good conscience sentence rapists and molesters to death for a single offense (I may be swayed for repeat offenders). I feel that there are many screwed up and misguided women and youths out there that have used accusations of rape and molestation purely for revenge.
Perhaps if we also made the False Accusation of rape or molestation a capital crime, then I may go along with it. But I would hate to see the guy that gets put to death and then months later we find out it was all a sham.
-WW
"...That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state."
-The Debates in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Virginia, on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution. June 27, 1788.
You have a good point. I think there should be some kind of time limit on a woman deciding she has been raped. Too many go on a date and decide months or years later that she was raped. That's BS whether the death penalty is involved or not. Genuine rape should carry the death penalty. Retroactive rape is another question.
I'm for the death penalty, and have personally known at least a dozen people who have been executed. They have all deserved it.
I've worked in a Virginia jail for over 20 years.
Just to toss in another angle though, why don't we go to "professional" jurors ? Do you really want your fate decided by 12 people who couldn't figure out how to get out of jury duty ?
After a while, too soon I'm afraid, they would become junior lawyers. I don't particularly like the current Jury System, but I can't come up with anything better. My main problem with the jury system is most jurors believe the judge when he tells them they have to find a defendant guilty if they find he has broken the law (jury nullification as mentioned by gunphreak).
I'm against it.
Only God can make a Boatswain's Mate!
Even for people who throw used chewing gum out in the parking lot? [;)]
Man's last hope... The Star Wars Kid.. Jedi Master!
shelly
Only God can make a Boatswain's Mate!
I think the method of execution should be organ donation; sedate them, field strip for parts to do the most good, and turn off the heart/lung machine. Let them go out in a USEFUL way.
Jeffrey Dahlmer etc - .22 between the eyes; no sense in taking chances that THAT kind of sickness can be transmitted . . . .
Gun Control = FIRM GRIP!
I think the method of execution should be organ donation; sedate them, field strip for parts to do the most good, and turn off the heart/lung machine. Let them go out in a USEFUL way.
Absolutely!! Good show, carolina boy. Here's another idea, but I don't know how effective such would be.
Build a human-sized microwave oven, and put a condemned beyond a shadow of a doubt prisoner in it and roast him. Then, let a few first time offenders clean up the mess. That's the beauty of deterrence.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
shelly
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
Also, the Libs would have to allow us to carve them up before we kill them, as I'm sure lethal injection probably taints the organs after the fact. That would probably be the biggest roadblock.
-WW
"...That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state."
-The Debates in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Virginia, on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution. June 27, 1788.
Electric BLEACHERS, now....I can get behind that.
"When the going gets weird, the Weird turn pro"
Hunter S. Thompson"
-Murder by poison-Gas chamber or lethal injection.
-Murder by arson- Burned at the stake.
-Murder by firearm- Firing squad.
-Murder by strangulation-Hanging or gas chamber.
-Murder and dismemberment-Drawed and quartered or guillotine.
-Murder by knife or stabbing weapon-Impaling or slashing.
-Murder of a child- The father gets to beat him/her to death.
-Murder by physical assault- Stoned to death.
-Violent rape of a woman-Any method. Genitalia cut off and shoved in their throat.
-Nonstatutory rape of a child. Cut off genitalia and allow to bleed to death.
-Perjury to which accused could be sentenced to death-whatever method they could have inflicted on the innocent.
Do we see a pattern here???
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
I know what you mean, Colonel. Here's my take on death penalty, where it is carried out on those incontrovertibly guilty.
-Murder by poison-Gas chamber or lethal injection.
-Murder by arson- Burned at the stake.
-Murder by firearm- Firing squad.
-Murder by strangulation-Hanging or gas chamber.
-Murder and dismemberment-Drawed and quartered or guillotine.
-Murder by knife or stabbing weapon-Impaling or slashing.
-Murder of a child- The father gets to beat him/her to death.
-Murder by physical assault- Stoned to death.
-Violent rape of a woman-Any method. Genitalia cut off and shoved in their throat.
-Nonstatutory rape of a child. Cut off genitalia and allow to bleed to death.
-Perjury to which accused could be sentenced to death-whatever method they could have inflicted on the innocent.
Do we see a pattern here???
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
Works for me [:D]
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Somebody answer me how death the same way you killed is "cruel" or "unusual", when it parallels their method?
quote: Once again, I am against killing unarmed criminals.
Not me. Chances are, their victims were unarmed, so you get what you deserve. I'm not going for a blood-feud fight to the death. This is punishment for evil deeds against another in an irreparable manner. I do not believe in vengeance.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
quote:. All those 'learned individuals' that believe the shrinks can "rehabilitate" a harded criminal as out to lunch, in my opinion.
Not out to lunch. Part of an overall scheme to allow citizens to be butchered...so that there is a great hue and cry for gun control..
I imagine it is a great frustration for the Elites that there is a hard core of Americans clinging to the belief that the best justice..is a .45 in the hands of a decent citizen...
"...That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state."
-The Debates in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Virginia, on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution. June 27, 1788.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
Rick Graham
Once again, I am against killing unarmed criminals.
What about the many unarmed criminals who, by using only superior brute strength, kidnap, beat, rape and kill an innocent woman?