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Glock ...Boom...!
Grunt2
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Went to the range yesterday with a new Glock model 35..(40S&W)..Looked like conventional rifling (NOT polygonal)...After about 100-150 rounds of cast bullets we had a case rupture...Blew the mag out, broke the grip plug and the extractor was never found..When we were picking up the brass we noticed the pattern of ejected brass had slowly changed the more we shot. As the pattern shifted rearward of the shooter the pressure signs became more apparent on the brass. Thankfully nobody was standing to the right of the shooter!
I'll stay with my 1911's...
I'll stay with my 1911's...
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Sorry about the boom in a new Glock though.
You are alright I assume!
quote:Mk 19
NEVER use lead bullets in a Glock, that is not a gun problem, it is a shooter problem.
The problem he had with the Glock has nothing to do with lead bullets, it is a design issue. Anyways using ammo with lead bullets is less stress full on the chamber due to the bullet being softer than jackets bullets and taking less pressure to send it home. I am not totally knocking Glocks, but this IS a more and more common problem with them. I'll stick with my XD45! All I recommend is that all you Glock shooters do is pay close attention to the pressure signs and sounds and inspect your pistol regularly!
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Mk 19
NEVER use lead bullets in a Glock, that is not a gun problem, it is a shooter problem.
The problem he had with the Glock has nothing to do with lead bullets, it is a design issue. Anyways using ammo with lead bullets is less stress full on the chamber due to the bullet being softer than jackets bullets and taking less pressure to send it home. I am not totally knocking Glocks, but this IS a more and more common problem with them. I'll stick with my XD45! All I recommend is that all you Glock shooters do is pay close attention to the pressure signs and sounds and inspect your pistol regularly!
I am not a fan of the Glock series and I will never own one, heck I don't enen like selling them to others, but it is well known that you do not fire lead bullets in a polygonal barrel. Yes there is a design issue with the glock useing a non supported chamber, but if the cautions are followed that problem becomes a moot point.
NEVER use lead bullets in a Glock, that is not a gun problem, it is a shooter problem.
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Mk 19
NEVER use lead bullets in a Glock, that is not a gun problem, it is a shooter problem.
The problem he had with the Glock has nothing to do with lead bullets, it is a design issue. Anyways using ammo with lead bullets is less stress full on the chamber due to the bullet being softer than jackets bullets and taking less pressure to send it home. I am not totally knocking Glocks, but this IS a more and more common problem with them. I'll stick with my XD45! All I recommend is that all you Glock shooters do is pay close attention to the pressure signs and sounds and inspect your pistol regularly!
I am not a fan of the Glock series and I will never own one, heck I don't enen like selling them to others, but it is well known that you do not fire lead bullets in a polygonal barrel. Yes there is a design issue with the glock useing a non supported chamber, but if the cautions are followed that problem becomes a moot point.
My apologies for the misunderstanding! I was not meaning that the lead bullets had nothing to do with the problem experienced. What I was refering to is the the design flaws of the unsupported chamber and the fairly sharp transition between the chamber and the rifling that is prone to severe build up causing the pistol not close to full battery. This flaw of severe build up is common even when lead bullets have never been used. I am glad that you think twice about selling them to others, to me that shows that you care about your customers, I wish every salesman was like that. By biggest beef with Glocks are the total lack of safeties! And people wonder why there are so many accidental shootings.
On the taste of the Buck! I have never had a deer that big taste that good!
Originally posted by Mk 19
NEVER use lead bullets in a Glock, that is not a gun problem, it is a shooter problem.
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Mk 19
NEVER use lead bullets in a Glock, that is not a gun problem, it is a shooter problem.
The problem he had with the Glock has nothing to do with lead bullets, it is a design issue. Anyways using ammo with lead bullets is less stress full on the chamber due to the bullet being softer than jackets bullets and taking less pressure to send it home. I am not totally knocking Glocks, but this IS a more and more common problem with them. I'll stick with my XD45! All I recommend is that all you Glock shooters do is pay close attention to the pressure signs and sounds and inspect your pistol regularly!
I am not a fan of the Glock series and I will never own one, heck I don't enen like selling them to others, but it is well known that you do not fire lead bullets in a polygonal barrel. Yes there is a design issue with the glock useing a non supported chamber, but if the cautions are followed that problem becomes a moot point.
My apologies for the misunderstanding! I was not meaning that the lead bullets had nothing to do with the problem experienced. What I was refering to is the the design flaws of the unsupported chamber and the fairly sharp transition between the chamber and the rifling that is prone to severe build up causing the pistol not close to full battery. This flaw of severe build up is common even when lead bullets have never been used. I am glad that you think twice about selling them to others, to me that shows that you care about your customers, I wish every salesman was like that. By biggest beef with Glocks are the total lack of safeties! And people wonder why there are so many accidental shootings.
Not a problem JT, Like you there are several things that I do not care for in a Glock, but the worst thing to me is how it fits my hand. There are so many better choices out there with better ergonomics and built in safety systems. I also prefer a hammer pistol with a decocker over a striker fired gun, there are different opinions on that but I know what I like.
BTW: That is a great buck you have there, does he taist as good as he looks?
7. Before firing your weapon, you should routinely make sure that your firearm is in good working order and that the barrel is clear of dirt and obstructions.
8. Only use ammunition recommended by the firearm manufacturer, and always be certain that the ammunition matches the caliber of your gun.
I owned a Baby Eagle in 40S&W with a polygonal barrel and never had a problem. I have put 100's of thousands of cast rounds through my 1911's and don't even own a 45 cal. bore brush! The only jacketed ammunition I shoot is for testing or qualification. With the Glock...looks like you would have to carry a cleaning rod around all the time!
Perry...With a clean barrel (Glock)the brass is no more or less supported than a common 1911 barrel. But as stated in the orig. post...You could tell from looking at the brass when the lead build up began. It was progressively pushed out of the chamber from the lead build up until there was sufficient brass not supported by the barrel...causing the rupture. I am confident that had he been on a firing line with other shooters....the person to his right would have been injured from brass fragments as well as the missing extractor...He's not an avid shooter so most likely he'll stay with jacketed ammunition from now on and avoid the problems.
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Tim
NEVER use lead bullets in a Glock, that is not a gun problem, it is a shooter problem.
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Mk 19
NEVER use lead bullets in a Glock, that is not a gun problem, it is a shooter problem.
Your right Mk19
Read the Manual,never shoot lead bullets through Polygonal Rifling
The problem he had with the Glock has nothing to do with lead bullets, it is a design issue. Anyways using ammo with lead bullets is less stress full on the chamber due to the bullet being softer than jackets bullets and taking less pressure to send it home. I am not totally knocking Glocks, but this IS a more and more common problem with them. I'll stick with my XD45! All I recommend is that all you Glock shooters do is pay close attention to the pressure signs and sounds and inspect your pistol regularly!
I am not a fan of the Glock series and I will never own one, heck I don't enen like selling them to others, but it is well known that you do not fire lead bullets in a polygonal barrel. Yes there is a design issue with the glock useing a non supported chamber, but if the cautions are followed that problem becomes a moot point.
quote:Originally posted by Mk 19
NEVER use lead bullets in a Glock, that is not a gun problem, it is a shooter problem.
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Mk 19
NEVER use lead bullets in a Glock, that is not a gun problem, it is a shooter problem.
The problem he had with the Glock has nothing to do with lead bullets, it is a design issue. Anyways using ammo with lead bullets is less stress full on the chamber due to the bullet being softer than jackets bullets and taking less pressure to send it home. I am not totally knocking Glocks, but this IS a more and more common problem with them. I'll stick with my XD45! All I recommend is that all you Glock shooters do is pay close attention to the pressure signs and sounds and inspect your pistol regularly!
I am not a fan of the Glock series and I will never own one, heck I don't enen like selling them to others, but it is well known that you do not fire lead bullets in a polygonal barrel. Yes there is a design issue with the glock useing a non supported chamber, but if the cautions are followed that problem becomes a moot point.
My apologies for the misunderstanding! I was not meaning that the lead bullets had nothing to do with the problem experienced. What I was refering to is the the design flaws of the unsupported chamber and the fairly sharp transition between the chamber and the rifling that is prone to severe build up causing the pistol not close to full battery. This flaw of severe build up is common even when lead bullets have never been used. I am glad that you think twice about selling them to others, to me that shows that you care about your customers, I wish every salesman was like that. By biggest beef with Glocks are the total lack of safeties! And people wonder why there are so many accidental shootings.
every Glock has three safetys!!!!!!!!
On the taste of the Buck! I have never had a deer that big taste that good!