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OK So what do you really think
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of the credibility of UFO's
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Mike
As far as the "Earthlings" being he only viable "beings" in this universe is actually beyond comprehension. To infinity and beyond, there is things out there.
Does that mean they therefore are alien craft piloted by beings from other than Earth? Preposterous, illogical, and absolutely impossible.
so what makes us so special? they had to have examined hundreds or thousands of other planets with ecosystems already. maybe we're not special and we're just another planet on the list full of dumb creatures they don't care to talk to. that would make a lot more sense.
I think that most of the sightings that appear credible also have sort of an animal origin. Skunkworks ring a bell? Bob
Goldie locks zone - gas giants in the outer system absorbing most incoming planet busting objects - our large moon and tidal variations - water planet - magnetic field strength - hot molten core - plate tectonics - Darwinism lottery effect - natural selection - divine intervention - luck of the draw - star type and age - etc...
A hundred different factors that are improbable when combined..
Mike
The U.S. "found" aliens in New Mexico then made huge technological advances.
YES!
Huge technological advances (computers) have been made since then by the U.S. and China...Hmmmmmmmm.
If you meant are they real, sure unidentified flying objects are real. Until they are identified, then they are IFO's. If you mean are they from other planets/stars/galaxies, there is no credible evidence that they might travel years or decades through space to play hide and go seek when they get here. People want to believe in mysteries, thus all the TV shows about aliens, hidden treasure and religions fall right in to that need to believe in fantasy.
I would quote Carl Sagan but...
"Billions and billions" Edit
To help viewers of Cosmos distinguish between "millions" and "billions", Sagan stressed the "b". Sagan never did, however, say "billions and billions". The public's association of the phrase and Sagan came from a Tonight Show skit. Parodying Sagan's affect, Johnny Carson quipped "billions and billions".The phrase has, however, now become a humorous fictitious number?the Sagan. Aside from using the catchphrase as the title of the book, Sagan's introduction also discusses it.
There are about 10 billion galaxies in the observable universe! The number of stars in a galaxy varies, but assuming an average of 100 billion stars per galaxy means that there are about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (that's 1 billion trillion) stars in the observable universe!
Averaging out the types of stars within our galaxy, this would produce an answer of about 100 billion stars in the galaxy. This is subject to change, however, depending on how many stars are bigger and smaller than our own sun. Also, other estimates say the Milky Way could have 200 billion stars or more.
"I don't know [the answer] because I don't know if the universe is infinitely large or not," he said. The observable universe appears to go back in time by about 13.8 billion years, but beyond what we could see there could be much, much more. Some astronomers also think that we may live in a "multiverse" where there would be other universes like ours contained in some sort of larger entity.
There are 10 times more stars in the night sky than grains of sand in the world's deserts and beaches, scientists say. Astronomers have worked out that there are 70 thousand million million million - or seven followed by 22 zeros - stars visible from the Earth through telescopes.
Scientists and scholars and theologians debate this endlessly - how many angels fit on the head of a pin - I can regurgitate the classic and modern interpretations but the truth is I don't know the answer - and am to stupid to participate in such a debate...
Mike
Vlad? I know two Vlads. One is a cute little bunny that brings me cookies. The other is bad Vlad. Which Vlad?'
Which one do you think?'
Bad Vlad?'
Good call.
Mike
I have to say I believe there are UFO's. Now where they come from I have no idea.
My guess is:
1. From the future
2. From a distant system and they have a base here in this solar system.
I watch the Ancient Aliens show on the History Channel and some of the arguments and theory's they come up with are very believable especially when dealing with ancient civilizations in the Americas, Africa and Asia especially India. Hinduism is basically a Sci-fi Novel.
Earth is a fairly tiny planet circling a small, commonplace, nondescript star near the fringe of a small galaxy. Our galaxy is roughly 100,000 light years in diameter (quite small as galaxies go) that holds between 100 and 400 billion other stars besides ours. Our "radiowave sphere" is only about 100 lightyears in diameter - which means that's as far as our first radio signals have propagated in space.
No advanced civilization more than 100 lightyears from us can have heard us yet, and if there were one less than that distance away, we'd have heard them, assuming they are at least as advanced as we are.
Since we haven't detected them, it's a certainty they have not detected us. And therefore no reason for them to zero in on this one of maybe 400 billion other stars, and then come to this particular speck of dust to look for us.
On top of all that, all the above assumes we are only talking about travel within this one galaxy. Travel from one of the other billions of galaxies? Utter nonsense.
Sorry, you believers, there are no aliens visiting us.
How do you feel about Mormon doctrine...
Mike
And I'm aware that turning the thread to religion dooms it to the poof pile.
Much as I hate to agree with him, there it is.
The Nimitz footage/recounts of the multi-day encounter, ("Gimble, Tic Tac, Go Fast.") are but the tip of the Iceberg. If you have not researched it/listened to it/watched it, you should. A Hoax?? Kinda doubt it.
This Snit, will not go away.
Or been in really remote places on Earth.
Now if there is life on other planets in a galaxy far far away and they made a fly by and saw an episode of Jerry Springer or The View, one of two things would happen, they would turn tail and flee the universe and warn others to keep away or destroy earth with a photon torpedo or three.
Or as Heinlein said, "Being a preacher is no worse than any other con, provided you have the stomach for it."
That being said, no one living two hundred years ago could understand todays tech.