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quote:Originally posted by thermonuclear
Honestly, I have no clue. But I see something inthe picture that appears to be rebar steel or high tension steel cable. Neither would be capable of surviving a fire hot enough to smolten a steel safe. Rebar is so high in carbon it has virtually no use other than in concrete.
If it were hot enough to melt the safe, surely the gun barrels would not have survived. I don't know... I can't belive lightning would be enough to cause magnesium to ignite from just a strike. Would it not had to at least been touching the side of the safe?
I just don't know... It appears this clump fell through the roof in the first pic. In the others it appears to be something dug out of a dump, lots of compatacted iron and clay goop combo.
And what's with that little silver bead chain and tag? Not like it's not lose enough to fall off at any time, what does that tag say?
I am not going to say you are a liar, but I am certainly waiting for the punchline...
Gee, what do you require? A hit to the head with a 2 pound double jack?
?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
This may be beside the point, but why the h*ll would there be all that rebar melted in with a gun safe anyways? I also know for a fact that Magnesium will not do what you are posting. Looks to me like * from the WTC.
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
There ya go !!
Doug
Some people do not get it. Generally people who are online and do not trust anyone..to the point they start keeping journals on what was said, and then stalking their photobucket accounts online, have real issues.
quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk
Little off topic (well, maybe not). Ya know, I stumbled upon another website where CGR got 'outted' much the same way it happened here. The similarities between what happened there and here were pretty amazing.
Survivalist, mark my words; it wasn't pretty. Do yourself a favor and just come clean and be done with it. It's only going to get worse...trust me. You'll be glad you did. It won't go away either until you fill in the hole you've already dug.
This is going down the exact same path as the CGR meltdown.
Sounds like you may have a little too much time on your hands? Maybe? Looks like you good folks already just devoted a whole post to me...like I tell my kid...quit watching cartoons and go out an play.
all this talk about metalurgy and the burning characteristics of magnesium....
bottom line is, NOBODY knows what happens when it's struck by lightening!
have any of you experts actually seen it happen before? has anyone (ANYONE) ever conducted a scientific test of what happens when magnesium is struck by lightening? I googled it and couldn't find any magnesium/lightening tests.
sorry, but this seems to be one of those things that is too weird to be made up.
just my 2c
tom
quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk
Little off topic (well, maybe not). Ya know, I stumbled upon another website where CGR got 'outted' much the same way it happened here. The similarities between what happened there and here were pretty amazing.
Survivalist, mark my words; it wasn't pretty. Do yourself a favor and just come clean and be done with it. It's only going to get worse...trust me. You'll be glad you did. It won't go away either until you fill in the hole you've already dug.
This is going down the exact same path as the CGR meltdown.
Can you fill me in on the CGR thing? [?] sorry just another lost newbie [B)]
For a while there I thought this was his version of the tragic boat accident that destroyed so many of GunBroker forum member's guns. I was even giving him points for originality. Now I'm starting to think he wants somebody to actually believe it.
quote:Originally posted by burdz19
thanks quick [:D] she wasn't pretending to be remote girl was she?[:o)][:D]
No, but just imagine remote girl was here posting, thats kinda what it was like. There was some healthty slobbering going on from time to time as I recall.[:D][:D][:D]
For those that haven't done their own search-
The object shown is a piece of debris from the World Trade Center that has been nicknamed "the meteorite". It is stored in a hanger at JFK airport. Photo #5 - it is very dark and from a different angle, but you can tell that the i-beam ceiling is the same http://www.papba.com/media-archive/abc/abc-060907-hangar.html
(Ain't the internet wonderful??)[;)]
quote:Originally posted by 1fisher
For those that haven't done their own search-
The object shown is a piece of debris from the World Trade Center that has been nicknamed "the meteorite". It is stored in a hanger at JFK airport. Photo #5 - it is very dark and from a different angle, but you can tell that the i-beam ceiling is the same http://www.papba.com/media-archive/abc/abc-060907-hangar.html
(Ain't the internet wonderful??)[;)]
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
I though this was funny at first, you know like the yarn about 300 pound catfish that dragged away my grammas mule.
He already made a tail but I thought it was a good running joke. So i covered it.. Who coulda known heffly was a metalurgist with no sense of humor.
ATHOMSON spotted it.
Well dang it. Some people really can f-up a darn good story can't they?
Funny, as many commercial aircraft that are full of jet fuel and have airframes composed of mag/alum that get hit by lightning each year,99.999999% of the time is completely harmless. Lightning has not caused an airliner crash in the USA or of a U.S. airline plane anywhere in more than 40 years.
quote:Originally posted by Survivalist86
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
I though this was funny at first, you know like the yarn about 300 pound catfish that dragged away my grammas mule.
He already made a tail but I thought it was a good running joke. So i covered it.. Who coulda known heffly was a metalurgist with no sense of humor.
ATHOMSON spotted it.
Well dang it. Some people really can f-up a darn good story can't they?
heffley aint gotta a great imagination from what I have seen.[:p] I thought it funny when you posted the Pootin crap, as if to say..
"If you'll believe a freak lightning strike melted my vault, you'll love this." [:D]
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
quote:Originally posted by Survivalist86
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
I though this was funny at first, you know like the yarn about 300 pound catfish that dragged away my grammas mule.
He already made a tail but I thought it was a good running joke. So i covered it.. Who coulda known heffly was a metalurgist with no sense of humor.
ATHOMSON spotted it.
Well dang it. Some people really can f-up a darn good story can't they?
heffley aint gotta a great imagination from what I have seen.[:p] I thought it funny when you posted the Pootin crap, as if to say..
"If you'll believe a freak lightning strike melted my vault, you'll love this." [:D]
I got it, atleast.
It was all too easy. For those with a serious BS meter, I hope I provided a little entertainment at the expense of the GB special ed students.
The Germans used lots of magnesium. The Hindenburgs' frame was made of it. Also the dope to make the skin had a high content of magnesium oxide. That mixed with the laquor used in the adhesive is what caused it to burn so hot. Have read magnesium oxide is used in explosives.
Old VW beetle engine blocks were also made from magnesium. Have heard stories of them burning. Did not witness the fire but a friend of mine who I used to drag race with saw a VW running altered class burn. Car caught fire from a fuel leak cause the guy was using one of those old Tappers for a fuel tank. This car ran on methanol. So it was a pretty hot fire. They said it burned 12-15minutes. I saw some pics and it DID NOT look like the pics of the safe. More like a Burnt marshmellow.But it was fiberglass body shell mixed in with Rollcage, frame, tires, asphalt
quote:Originally posted by footlong
The Germans used lots of magnesium. The Hindenburgs' frame was made of it. Also the dope to make the skin had a high content of magnesium oxide. That mixed with the laquor used in the adhesive is what caused it to burn so hot. Have read magnesium oxide is used in explosives.
Old VW beetle engine blocks were also made from magnesium. Have heard stories of them burning. Did not witness the fire but a friend of mine who I used to drag race with saw a VW running altered class burn. Car caught fire from a fuel leak cause the guy was using one of those old Tappers for a fuel tank. This car ran on methanol. So it was a pretty hot fire. They said it burned 12-15minutes. I saw some pics and it DID NOT look like the pics of the safe. More like a Burnt marshmellow.But it was fiberglass body shell mixed in with Rollcage, frame, tires, asphalt
True story, not BS. Back in highschool we liked to cruise the strip in the small town where I lived. Took turns driving....usually it was the guy who had enough money to put gas in his gas guzzling V-8. Was a freinds of mine's turn to drive. He had an old Chevelle with somre really fancy magnesium rims, and a serious gas leak near the carb. Any how, it caught on fire at one of the 2 stop lights in town. Not a real serious fire. We casually got out and lifted the hood, but it was too late. Those rims burned like the sun, for what seemed like hours. We sat on the curb watching the whole thing with morbid facination. I believe I have heard that there is some sort of law against magnesium rims. May be untrue, but I heard it.
quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk
quote:Originally posted by Survivalist86
True story, not BS.
I got that far before I cracked up!!
[:D][:D][:D]
That is the only drawback from doing a huge whopper that drew in a bunch of gullable people....then everything you say after that is suspect...but, the story of the magnesium rims on the car really is true. Where do you think I got the idea for the safe melt down?
To Survivalist86, I said in my first post here on this thread, I enjoyed
reading all the replies.....keep up the story telling...I knew what it was. Maybe I"ll tell the story of the luger pistol I found in my fathers footlocker, when the family settled his estate. Short version is
the gun is in .45acp caliber and has only a "1" stamped all over it. It's all beat up like some one shot 5000 rounds thru it non=stop.My dad work at the US Army testing and proving grounds from 1904 to 1941, and I got lots of odd stuff from him........bob
quote:Originally posted by Survivalist86
quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk
quote:Originally posted by Survivalist86
True story, not BS.
I got that far before I cracked up!!
[:D][:D][:D]
That is the only drawback from doing a huge whopper that drew in a bunch of gullable people....then everything you say after that is suspect...but, the story of the magnesium rims on the car really is true. Where do you think I got the idea for the safe melt down?
quote:Originally posted by pietro75
quote:Originally posted by Survivalist86
quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk
quote:Originally posted by Survivalist86
True story, not BS.
I got that far before I cracked up!!
[:D][:D][:D]
That is the only drawback from doing a huge whopper that drew in a bunch of gullable people....then everything you say after that is suspect...but, the story of the magnesium rims on the car really is true. Where do you think I got the idea for the safe melt down?
quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk
Not even a good yarn is going to get you off the Right Wing Extremist list, Survivalist!
[:D][;)]
edit: Hey, got any good UFO stories??? I'll bet you got some doosey's!!
[:D]
Give the Goobers time to write down my links, and sayings in their notebooks...then I will start a thread regarding my abduction, and forced implant by what I believe to be alien intelligence, in cooperation with a shadow branch of our government.
Anybody can lie, it takes no talent. Those that think they are pulling the wool over on anybody on the internet is a coward.
Everything you say on this board from here on out will be taken as a lie. Everyone that pointed to your lies and you came back at them will not read anything you post.
Your bed, now lie in it.
?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
quote:Originally posted by Alpine
Anybody can lie, it takes no talent. Those that think they are pulling the wool over on anybody on the internet is a coward.
Everything you say on this board from here on out will be taken as a lie. Everyone that pointed to your lies and you came back at them will not read anything you post.
Your bed, now lie in it.
I ever tell you the story about how my horse was hit by lightening while wearing magnesesium horseshoes?
Survivalist86, look at the bright side. You already had no credibility, so you didn't lose anything. This is the point where you cut your losses and register under a new user name. [;)]
You will eventually self destruct under any user name, but I'll give you a couple tips that will help you last a little longer.
Most of us will tolerate a few lies, but not the quantity and quality you've been dishing up. Keep them to generalities and when you get caught admit to the "joke".
When you are arguing with somebody who is obviously more knowledgeable than you are, and you catch yourself calling them names or implying they are ignorant because they demonstrated your ignorance, change the subject or crawfish out as quickly as possible.
Back to the lying thing. It seldom works to lie about what another member said.
My nephew whos in the 161 FA Bat. said that he put a round into a old APC (think they were made in the 60s)that was made with some Mag. and set it afire,i guess it even started a large grass fire at Fort Riley,Kansas
quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
Survivalist86, look at the bright side. You already had no credibility, so you didn't lose anything. This is the point where you cut your losses and register under a new user name. [;)]
You will eventually self destruct under any user name, but I'll give you a couple tips that will help you last a little longer.
Most of us will tolerate a few lies, but not the quantity and quality you've been dishing up. Keep them to generalities and when you get caught admit to the "joke".
When you are arguing with somebody who is obviously more knowledgeable than you are, and you catch yourself calling them names or implying they are ignorant because they demonstrated your ignorance, change the subject or crawfish out as quickly as possible.
Back to the lying thing. It seldom works to lie about what another member said.
Good luck with your new user name.
Why the heck would I want to change my name? Been using here for a while and have no plan on changing it.
It is not my problem that some folks cannot tell the difference between a serious big ole whopper and someone trying to pass off a lie as truth. I will continue doing what I do. I enjoy story time when I can get folks to believe a good whopper. But you will notice....after I string along the special ed folks, I fess up to let em off the hook. Most folks just smack themselves in the forehead at the joke....some take it personal.
Comments
Honestly, I have no clue. But I see something inthe picture that appears to be rebar steel or high tension steel cable. Neither would be capable of surviving a fire hot enough to smolten a steel safe. Rebar is so high in carbon it has virtually no use other than in concrete.
If it were hot enough to melt the safe, surely the gun barrels would not have survived. I don't know... I can't belive lightning would be enough to cause magnesium to ignite from just a strike. Would it not had to at least been touching the side of the safe?
I just don't know... It appears this clump fell through the roof in the first pic. In the others it appears to be something dug out of a dump, lots of compatacted iron and clay goop combo.
And what's with that little silver bead chain and tag? Not like it's not lose enough to fall off at any time, what does that tag say?
I am not going to say you are a liar, but I am certainly waiting for the punchline...
Gee, what do you require? A hit to the head with a 2 pound double jack?
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
It's the internet.
He's just gone a little far.
Doug
Hilarious
The number of photobucket, little pic, and stock brokerage accounts I have is none of anyones business.
Doug
There ya go !!
Doug
Some people do not get it. Generally people who are online and do not trust anyone..to the point they start keeping journals on what was said, and then stalking their photobucket accounts online, have real issues.
Little off topic (well, maybe not). Ya know, I stumbled upon another website where CGR got 'outted' much the same way it happened here. The similarities between what happened there and here were pretty amazing.
Survivalist, mark my words; it wasn't pretty. Do yourself a favor and just come clean and be done with it. It's only going to get worse...trust me. You'll be glad you did. It won't go away either until you fill in the hole you've already dug.
This is going down the exact same path as the CGR meltdown.
Sounds like you may have a little too much time on your hands? Maybe? Looks like you good folks already just devoted a whole post to me...like I tell my kid...quit watching cartoons and go out an play.
bottom line is, NOBODY knows what happens when it's struck by lightening!
have any of you experts actually seen it happen before? has anyone (ANYONE) ever conducted a scientific test of what happens when magnesium is struck by lightening? I googled it and couldn't find any magnesium/lightening tests.
sorry, but this seems to be one of those things that is too weird to be made up.
just my 2c
tom
Little off topic (well, maybe not). Ya know, I stumbled upon another website where CGR got 'outted' much the same way it happened here. The similarities between what happened there and here were pretty amazing.
Survivalist, mark my words; it wasn't pretty. Do yourself a favor and just come clean and be done with it. It's only going to get worse...trust me. You'll be glad you did. It won't go away either until you fill in the hole you've already dug.
This is going down the exact same path as the CGR meltdown.
Can you fill me in on the CGR thing? [?] sorry just another lost newbie [B)]
Left alot guys shaken because she could have been a he, and they had been hitting on her.[:D] [:D][:D]
CGR=cutegirlraceing
Pretty funny once you think about it.
I am not Rusty Shackleford period on any site, including Gunbroker.
The number of photobucket, little pic, and stock brokerage accounts I have is none of anyones business.
Which one was your safe?
Don
thanks quick [:D] she wasn't pretending to be remote girl was she?[:o)][:D]
No, but just imagine remote girl was here posting, thats kinda what it was like. There was some healthty slobbering going on from time to time as I recall.[:D][:D][:D]
The object shown is a piece of debris from the World Trade Center that has been nicknamed "the meteorite". It is stored in a hanger at JFK airport. Photo #5 - it is very dark and from a different angle, but you can tell that the i-beam ceiling is the same
http://www.papba.com/media-archive/abc/abc-060907-hangar.html
(Ain't the internet wonderful??)[;)]
For those that haven't done their own search-
The object shown is a piece of debris from the World Trade Center that has been nicknamed "the meteorite". It is stored in a hanger at JFK airport. Photo #5 - it is very dark and from a different angle, but you can tell that the i-beam ceiling is the same
http://www.papba.com/media-archive/abc/abc-060907-hangar.html
(Ain't the internet wonderful??)[;)]
[:D]
I though this was funny at first, you know like the yarn about 300 pound catfish that dragged away my grammas mule.
He already made a tail but I thought it was a good running joke. So i covered it.. Who coulda known heffly was a metalurgist with no sense of humor.
ATHOMSON spotted it.
Well dang it. Some people really can f-up a darn good story can't they?
And lightning did this to a safe? Hardly-[;)]
Funny,
Yeah...it is isn't it! Do you speak Yiddish? Just curious if you know what YAHBT means in Yiddish....
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
I though this was funny at first, you know like the yarn about 300 pound catfish that dragged away my grammas mule.
He already made a tail but I thought it was a good running joke. So i covered it.. Who coulda known heffly was a metalurgist with no sense of humor.
ATHOMSON spotted it.
Well dang it. Some people really can f-up a darn good story can't they?
heffley aint gotta a great imagination from what I have seen.[:p] I thought it funny when you posted the Pootin crap, as if to say..
"If you'll believe a freak lightning strike melted my vault, you'll love this." [:D]
Doug and I got it, atleast.
quote:Originally posted by Survivalist86
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
I though this was funny at first, you know like the yarn about 300 pound catfish that dragged away my grammas mule.
He already made a tail but I thought it was a good running joke. So i covered it.. Who coulda known heffly was a metalurgist with no sense of humor.
ATHOMSON spotted it.
Well dang it. Some people really can f-up a darn good story can't they?
heffley aint gotta a great imagination from what I have seen.[:p] I thought it funny when you posted the Pootin crap, as if to say..
"If you'll believe a freak lightning strike melted my vault, you'll love this." [:D]
I got it, atleast.
It was all too easy. For those with a serious BS meter, I hope I provided a little entertainment at the expense of the GB special ed students.
Old VW beetle engine blocks were also made from magnesium. Have heard stories of them burning. Did not witness the fire but a friend of mine who I used to drag race with saw a VW running altered class burn. Car caught fire from a fuel leak cause the guy was using one of those old Tappers for a fuel tank. This car ran on methanol. So it was a pretty hot fire. They said it burned 12-15minutes. I saw some pics and it DID NOT look like the pics of the safe. More like a Burnt marshmellow.But it was fiberglass body shell mixed in with Rollcage, frame, tires, asphalt
The Germans used lots of magnesium. The Hindenburgs' frame was made of it. Also the dope to make the skin had a high content of magnesium oxide. That mixed with the laquor used in the adhesive is what caused it to burn so hot. Have read magnesium oxide is used in explosives.
Old VW beetle engine blocks were also made from magnesium. Have heard stories of them burning. Did not witness the fire but a friend of mine who I used to drag race with saw a VW running altered class burn. Car caught fire from a fuel leak cause the guy was using one of those old Tappers for a fuel tank. This car ran on methanol. So it was a pretty hot fire. They said it burned 12-15minutes. I saw some pics and it DID NOT look like the pics of the safe. More like a Burnt marshmellow.But it was fiberglass body shell mixed in with Rollcage, frame, tires, asphalt
True story, not BS. Back in highschool we liked to cruise the strip in the small town where I lived. Took turns driving....usually it was the guy who had enough money to put gas in his gas guzzling V-8. Was a freinds of mine's turn to drive. He had an old Chevelle with somre really fancy magnesium rims, and a serious gas leak near the carb. Any how, it caught on fire at one of the 2 stop lights in town. Not a real serious fire. We casually got out and lifted the hood, but it was too late. Those rims burned like the sun, for what seemed like hours. We sat on the curb watching the whole thing with morbid facination. I believe I have heard that there is some sort of law against magnesium rims. May be untrue, but I heard it.
quote:Originally posted by Survivalist86
True story, not BS.
I got that far before I cracked up!!
[:D][:D][:D]
That is the only drawback from doing a huge whopper that drew in a bunch of gullable people....then everything you say after that is suspect...but, the story of the magnesium rims on the car really is true. Where do you think I got the idea for the safe melt down?
reading all the replies.....keep up the story telling...I knew what it was. Maybe I"ll tell the story of the luger pistol I found in my fathers footlocker, when the family settled his estate. Short version is
the gun is in .45acp caliber and has only a "1" stamped all over it. It's all beat up like some one shot 5000 rounds thru it non=stop.My dad work at the US Army testing and proving grounds from 1904 to 1941, and I got lots of odd stuff from him........bob
quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk
quote:Originally posted by Survivalist86
True story, not BS.
I got that far before I cracked up!!
[:D][:D][:D]
That is the only drawback from doing a huge whopper that drew in a bunch of gullable people....then everything you say after that is suspect...but, the story of the magnesium rims on the car really is true. Where do you think I got the idea for the safe melt down?
kinda like the little boy who cried wolf [8D]
quote:Originally posted by Survivalist86
quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk
quote:Originally posted by Survivalist86
True story, not BS.
I got that far before I cracked up!!
[:D][:D][:D]
That is the only drawback from doing a huge whopper that drew in a bunch of gullable people....then everything you say after that is suspect...but, the story of the magnesium rims on the car really is true. Where do you think I got the idea for the safe melt down?
kinda like the little boy who cried wolf [8D]
Not even a good yarn is going to get you off the Right Wing Extremist list, Survivalist!
[:D][;)]
edit: Hey, got any good UFO stories??? I'll bet you got some doosey's!!
[:D]
Give the Goobers time to write down my links, and sayings in their notebooks...then I will start a thread regarding my abduction, and forced implant by what I believe to be alien intelligence, in cooperation with a shadow branch of our government.
Look at me looking at the beautiful sunset...
[:0]
Everything you say on this board from here on out will be taken as a lie. Everyone that pointed to your lies and you came back at them will not read anything you post.
Your bed, now lie in it.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
Anybody can lie, it takes no talent. Those that think they are pulling the wool over on anybody on the internet is a coward.
Everything you say on this board from here on out will be taken as a lie. Everyone that pointed to your lies and you came back at them will not read anything you post.
Your bed, now lie in it.
I ever tell you the story about how my horse was hit by lightening while wearing magnesesium horseshoes?
You will eventually self destruct under any user name, but I'll give you a couple tips that will help you last a little longer.
Most of us will tolerate a few lies, but not the quantity and quality you've been dishing up. Keep them to generalities and when you get caught admit to the "joke".
When you are arguing with somebody who is obviously more knowledgeable than you are, and you catch yourself calling them names or implying they are ignorant because they demonstrated your ignorance, change the subject or crawfish out as quickly as possible.
Back to the lying thing. It seldom works to lie about what another member said.
Good luck with your new user name.
Survivalist86, look at the bright side. You already had no credibility, so you didn't lose anything. This is the point where you cut your losses and register under a new user name. [;)]
You will eventually self destruct under any user name, but I'll give you a couple tips that will help you last a little longer.
Most of us will tolerate a few lies, but not the quantity and quality you've been dishing up. Keep them to generalities and when you get caught admit to the "joke".
When you are arguing with somebody who is obviously more knowledgeable than you are, and you catch yourself calling them names or implying they are ignorant because they demonstrated your ignorance, change the subject or crawfish out as quickly as possible.
Back to the lying thing. It seldom works to lie about what another member said.
Good luck with your new user name.
Why the heck would I want to change my name? Been using here for a while and have no plan on changing it.
It is not my problem that some folks cannot tell the difference between a serious big ole whopper and someone trying to pass off a lie as truth. I will continue doing what I do. I enjoy story time when I can get folks to believe a good whopper. But you will notice....after I string along the special ed folks, I fess up to let em off the hook. Most folks just smack themselves in the forehead at the joke....some take it personal.