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CAUTION: Stay away from any Class Three Distributer in Santa Rosa Beach, Florida (its an ATF set up). You all do realize: The ATF monitors all "Gun Auction Sites"? They even run guns for auction. Sieg Heil![B)]
"I have been tender in raising the cry against these men, I have used numberless arguments to show them their danger, but it will not do to sacrifice a world to either their folly or their baseness. The period has now arrived, in which either they or We must change our sentiments, or one or both must fall"
"What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: It is dearness alone that gives everything its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price on its goods; it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as "FREEDOM" should not be highly rated". "Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered, yet we have this consolation with us, The Harder the Conflict, the more glorious the triumph"
~Thomas Paine~
According to Democrat stereotype, the Republicans are the "Party of the Rich". Liberals represent the poor and "oppressed".
In the election process, votes are what count. Now, in order for a conservative to obtain office, they must make people rich, and keep them rich...
...what then, do you suppose a liberal must do in order to get the necessary votes to get in office???
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Apparently the "lawmakers" (read as liberal left wing socialist do gooders" do not realize that if they are ever successful in doing away with the 2nd Amendment, that total anarchy will be the result!! Great Britain is the best example of that. It is now practically illegal in MOST situations to defend yourself from violent crime there.
And...if they ever do "ban" guns...at least the legal ownership of guns, they will create a new criminal group, of approximately 60 million, who will NOT comply with the law.
I wonder how big the prison would have to be....and how much concrete it would take to wall off all the land between the Mississippi River and the Rocky Mountains from Canada to Mexico?
I suggest going to the "Right to keep and Bear Arms" site, Michael Mitchell's writing and observations should be required reading in our schools, churchs, courts, ball games, and esp. on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. (which is in easy walking distance of the Vietnam Memorial).
"I would much prefer to spend my Life as a Lion, and take my chances, than to live forever as a cowering Dog, taking no chances at all".
I am afraid my Scot heritage, promotes my independent behavior. When they send their Rabble to attend me, please explain: My attitude (as theirs) is in my DNA, and I had no other course to consider.
JOIN THE NRA , and any other gun rights groups you can , use your $$ to do your talking , it is the only thing that will get you heard , and of course VOTE VOTE VOTE , change is slow , as to the statment if 6 guys raid your house , it will most likly be the ATFE (?) or some other govt. agy. with 3-4 letters , other wise if you are not able to shoot a semi-auto fast enough to take out more then one bad guy , get a case of ammo and do some range time , full auto is most of the time , a waste of good ammo , but I belive in your right to own one if you want it ! ............."C"
There is a lot of real GOOD reading in here folks...a lot!I haven't even finished yet.You r all sigin my song to one form or another.Just a thought,Judges and attorneys have playe d key roles in a lot of this in my opinion...And ANYTIME you have ANY organization that doesn't answer to someone you got kingsize problems! The PEOPLE are the ones all these goofs are supposed to answer to!Its ALL politics...and MONEY...old fashioned GREED.Me first the **** with you.
Am I my brothers keeper?
The ATF (Gestapo) get into this Forum and try to paint their Black Boots a different color.
I will attempt to give a Perfect example that occured today:
A Gentleman, which migrated from London, Kentucky; To work at the Jap Toyota Plant, came into (what is left of my shop) and discribed an incident which happened in his hometown a few months ago.
(no sense metioning the millions of pounds of Chemicals released into the atmosphere, ~ Which can be licenced and accepted by the EPA) right to know.com and simply type in your zip code. (RTK.com) While the simpletons are worried about restricting Cigarette Smoking in Resturants here? Go figure? But that is another issue which I have no doubt will eventually tie into the "I'm Scared of Guns Issue". (and mice, and worms, and big sh-t like that).
To Continue: This London, Kentucky Gentelman proceeded (after asking "Where are all of the Guns?" to tell me about a local Gun Shop in his territory. "First they Financially Broke him, afterwards came the full attack" They achieved their ends by shipping a package (prepaid) to his Store", (guess what the package contained?) Now he is forced into Appointed Defense (which is less than NO DEFENSE) because these appointees consider the Courts their Benifactors and your Habis Corpus Rights are accidemic (or enemiic) at best, and only fulfills the "Constitutional Obligation" at a bare minimum.
The Cannons Prescribe: "A Defense Council, even tho appointed; will first establish a theory of what acctually occured, will give a vigorous Defense from the time of appointment until the defendants appeal. At no time will the Defense carry on casual conversation, or show familiarity with the Proscecution during the Proceeding or in the presence of Jury or Defendant" (can you believe the Prosecution and Defense share Bagels in the Morning and laugh about prior cases during short ajournments?
The NRA had Pro-Bono Attorney's attend the Defendant and he won, (but only after extreme delay and petty proscriptions by the ATF and Prosecution, which are one and the same). Well! He got his guns back, but lost his storeGREAT WORK! ATF
Sounded like "Instant Replay" to me, except I did not get a Reply from the NRA. Now any[:o)] that believes this isn't Happening in our Country; Had better wake up and smell the Coffee. These Young Heros are not Ex-Military (if any were it would come as a great surprize to me) but you could never tell from their demeanor. It's Too Real, It's not Coming, It's Here! (or you can wait and experience it for yourself), There has been 4 local Gun Stores close, their doors for various reasons,in the last year, and within 30 miles of me.
I know: Some here think I am a little overtly Passionate, Hyper, or Simply Insane. I can only Hope there are those of you which can discern the Truth from Fiction, and will pass the Word, (by computer, by word of mouth, by carrier pigeon if necessary) The ATF is steadily Progressing and we are still talking. [V] it is all coming down too: "Who's resolute and who is merely Grumbling". This you can depend on: The ATF isn't going away, and the ATF isn't going to Quit, and the ATF is not Going to have Conscience Pangs, The ATF has not only seperated itself from the American People, but has posistioned themselves above them.
Please go back to my First Offing on this Forum (The Confiscation of Delta Gun Sales), My Statements were as true today as they were then. (even more so).
Yeah you're right. Take a look at Stephen Speilberg (sp?). He's got $2.2 Billion ($2,200,000,000). He donates to the democratic party to allow them to win. He donated something like $200,000 (pocket change for him). If he really wants to help the "oppressed" he could donate a few million; it's not like he'd notice. Also look at Ted Turner, and people like Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. Donating money to Hillary's campaign in the People's Republic of New York.
quote:Originally posted by gunphreak
Here's today's thought:
According to Democrat stereotype, the Republicans are the "Party of the Rich". Liberals represent the poor and "oppressed".
In the election process, votes are what count. Now, in order for a conservative to obtain office, they must make people rich, and keep them rich...
...what then, do you suppose a liberal must do in order to get the necessary votes to get in office???
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Sonnenfeld, Lumet, Kubrick, Silberling, Cronenberg, Coen, Scorsese, Hyams, Altman, Reitman, Rosenthal, Schumacher, Jordan, Jewison, Schepisi, Turteltaub, Weisman, Weir, & Wilder. Can you think of what these Directors have in Common?
All of the Rounds Fired on T.V. or the Movies in the last 10 years, would far exceed the amount we have fired in all Wars Americans have participated in.
Our Movies have gone the way of our eating habits = JUNK. Does anyone remember: Cary Grant carrying kathern Hepbern into the Bedroom, and closing the door behind them? (You didn't have to have a Camera Pan down to their crotch to know what they were doing). Remember John Wayne shooting someone (You didn't have to see their Brains fly all over the wall to know the Pilgrim was dead).
Notice how Actors such as Nolte (in Cannery Row) didn't have to pork Debra Winger to make a Good Movie. You knew they did it, but doing it wasn't the Gust of the Story.
Bogart, Bacall, Tracy, Hepbern, Hoffman, Grant, Newman, Cagney, Raines, Granger, Lancaster, Gable, Connery, Cooper, etc, etc, etc. When you are a Great Actor/Actress = You don't need, Skin,Vulgarity, Intestines, Teeth, Hair, Eyballs, or couple dozen Police Cars, Flipping over (automaticlly blowing up).
Comedy = Abbot and Costello, Jack Benny, Jackie Gleason, Milton Berle, even Jim Carey, doesn't have to curse to be Great. Maybe that is what makes them Great? The Wayman Brothers are really talented, but the proof of Talent is doing it without having to be Vulgar in the Process. Anyone tired of MF this, MF that?
Names Like Howard Hawks, John Huston, Alfred Hitchcock, George Lucas, Brian DePalma, Hey! We're talking Class.
Now we have Acid Rock, Acid Heads, Rap and Gang Bangers, Big Macs and Heart Attacks, Songs hitting the Top Of the Charts and took 4 1/2 minutes on the Commode to compose. Pants 14 sizes too large, women with no waist, Silicone Breast, most are addicted to something and all are addicted to Wally World. Everyone has ISSUES and usually take some kind of Drug (prescription of course) to numb their Brain. If the Boy Child runs and Play alot, he is Hyper and requires Drugs, (to slow him down to Momma and Daddys speed, which are also on Drugs).
Anyone notice the Really , Really, Large People waddling around these days and the Skinny ones are Anorexic, (and what do they look for to correct their Problem (DRUGS). Clean Urine is up on Wall Street but Gold is down. Heros are Fools but Fools are admired, and Screwing People is O.K. as long as it is in the name of Business. If it wasn't for FOX, CNN, NBC, CBS, or the BBC. we would all be standing around waiting for someone to tell what to do. (Reminds me of a cage, Raised Chicken that fell of of the truck on the way to Processing. He was just sitting there on the Yellow Line in the Middle of the road; didn't have a clue what to do. I think a lot of people dodged him until someone came along messing with their CD Player[xx(]. "Hey ! Man, whats that on your Bumper?" -- "What Bumper/ Oh! U mean that thing with the Feathers on it?" "Check out My Stereo' Dude", Eight Thousand Watts, gotta keep my truck running or it kills the Battery, I got 64" Woofers behind the seat, Tweeters in My Glove Box, and 1000 watt Sub-Woofers behind that thing with the Feathers on it". When I pull up at the Rest Home to see Granny, all of the Old People just stare and point, Then I turn it up Loud, thing hits 900 decibels, cost $12,000 but I'm working a lot of over time at Ky Chicken and Part Time at Micky Dees. I do my sleeping at School.
DUMBING DOWN OF AMERICA? too late friend[^] (pay no attention to me, I'm Bi-Polar)
Bi-polar? I am monopolar..... Extreme right seeking!!!!
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Delta, Just read the post where you described the country today.Very good discription,sounds like you live where I do.Sure is sad an sick isn't it? Its what I meant on another thread,the apathy,the me first and s*** you attitude.No one seems to care about anything anymore.Hero's(good ones) have gone by the wayside.Makes me wanna pull back into the hills as deep as I can and prety much stay there.For all the good it would do.
What can I say. Perhaps standing and fighting might be a better course of action, but also, a riskier one.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Consider: It is natural to try for the advantage, Car Racing, Football, Manufacturing, Shooting Rifles or Shooting Pool. That is why "Truck Pulls" were originally "Just Trucks' and "Pony Pulls" were just average Ponys, (until they started trimming the Hooves to the Blood to get the Ponys into a Smaller Class, or starving them of Water, prior to the Pulls to get the Ponys into a lighter weight class. (hope that is sufficent elaboration?)
Try and Explain to a Liberal Minded Person, the word: "Metamorphous", tell them to look it up in their "Funk & Wagnell". As the Advantage switches to the other Philosophy, and because someone, thought they had done Humanity a Favor, Thousands if not Millions die. Kosovo, Croatia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Russia, Germany, Rome, Greece, there are probably no Countrys Past or Present, Societys Past or Present, that "Metamorphous" hasn't occured at least once. But! and Example we can all relate too: Social Security when First Instigated, was for a Seemingly GOOD PURPOSE? Until Politicians came to see that Barrel of Money as Revenue, and like a bad Wife or Husband, drawing from the Piggy Bank, yet intending to put it back, but never seem to get around to it. And WE do not hold Politicians feet to the Fire, then suddenly we find: Some of the Most Irresponsible People, InCharge of Governing US? EXAMPLE 2: Our Country signs an Arms Treaty, everyone is releaved = The Nuclear Threat is over! Peace at last? Along comes another President, of Russia, The United States, etc. and ends up as World Bullys, because of our Technology and Hunger for MORE. Weapons of Mass Distruction? Right! Rumsfeld (of Enron Fame) even went as far as Nuclear Threats.
I say this with all of the understanding I have assimilated over these Last 58 years: If not For Americans already being Heavily Armed, I do not believe we would be enjoying what passes for Freedom today. And: If we do not stay Resolute, Aware, Cautious, Skeptical, and Heavily Armed; then we are on the Brink of a Major Change in our Society. (be it good or Bad) all History agrees, the Psychology of Mankind Testifys, as we see the Trend toward a Society that believes itself to be Affluent and Intellectual, just as all Societys of the Past became Arrogant to the Point of Callousness prior to the Downward Spiral or the Event Horizon.
Sorry if I got a bit deep, but I do believe anyone Researching in Depth and without Prejudice, must come to the same conclusion.
E=Mc squared ~ "Nothing can be Larger than the Sum Total of its Parts."
Homeland Security? If the Liberal Leaders of this Country have their way: The American Public will have no way to protect their Home, Muchless their Homeland.
We are told: "The Mexican Borders are Impossible to Guard"? (My Uncle Guarded them during WW2, from Horse Back) Now! With the Technology we have and the Equipment; We can't Guard the Mexican Border?
O.K. we buy that? So the Terrorist Taliban are not smart enough to figure that one out? So! We Put up a Sign, Declaring; "RED ALERT", (kinda like a Sign stating: "DRUG FREE ZONE").
And WHY would the Government Post "RED ALERT" on the News? They have left us out of the equasion and Alerting US would do little good (other than, make us more Paranoid than we already are).
With a Box of "Ohio Blue Tip Matches", a Terroist could easily devastate our Forest. With nothing more than a Coke Bottle and a Fast Moving Vehicle; Terrorist could destroy Telephone Communications in any Urban or Rural Community. Gas Lines and Compressor Stations, Bulk Tanks, are easily accessable in most Southern States. Railroad tracks can be decomissioned with a Tankers Bar or Iron Digging Bar, in a mater of minutes. No need to continue in this vein (now I'm getting Paranoid). The Government Is watching for some Great Catastrophe, witch may or may not ever happen? Fact is: With a Little Imagination and the Inclination, anyone could throw this Country into utter confusion and chaous.
The ATF worry about Explosives, Guns, Ammunition, Hycaps, and Asualt Weapons; While the Most devastating Chemicals and Compounds can be Purchased at any Wal-Mart or Lowes. I doubt a 4473 to purchase Clorox and Ammonia would suffice? You see (ATF, Liberals & NICS), People tend not to be born Felons = They either Become Felons or are Made to Become Felons, they are not going to show up in a NICS Check. I wonder how many "FELONS" there are in a Country of 270,000,000 people - what is the percentage? Assuming all "FELONS" are Dangerous! (notice how the word: "Felon" is brandished these days - simular to "Weapons of Mass Destruction" or "Assault Weapon", almost as if someone is purposefully labeling things? Well! You have to label them before you can condem or turn public opinion against them. " MILITIA ", NOW sounds sinister, but According to Webster: An Army Composed of Ordinary Citizens instead of Trained Soldiers. Perhaps "WE" should consult the "Clinton Dictionary"?
I agree,have had this conversation many times before. There are so many things that could be done if we tried to think of them all we would wind up in the boonies in hiding...But it is true.There are many ways,and it would be a simple thing in this country.The Militias are active and the gov't is scared.......
Yeah... As I'm sure and people like you with their anti machinegun agendas are aware a Class III license isn't much good for someone who wants new automatics. You can't get a Class III license if you don't have your own gun shop. Plus there are 3 categories of automatics. Guns registered before May 19,1986 can be transferred to anybody who can pass a background check and fill out a mountain of paperwork. If it was imported after GCA68, it is a pre-86 dealer sample, available only to the dealers. Here's the real problem though: if you have a Class III license you can't get any automatic made after May 19, 1986 without a Police Letter. This letter Is used to request a demonstration for a particular firearm... and the ATF is very picky about these letters... They don't want licensed dealers to get automatics for their own use. Once the dealer is in possession of this post-86 machine gun, he can only hold onto it until somebody (law enforcement, etc.) decides to buy it. And while you're at it, you also need a FFL (which ordinary citizens can't get... need a gun shop). Then as Delta said... You'll have to watch out for ATF sting operations. You can't become licensed to collect Dealer Samples. If you could, I'd be licensed and all the other gun control wouldn't seem half as evil.
quote:Originally posted by rusty1
and if you must have a fully automatic you can get a class III PERMIT and if you want high cap mag do like i do go to gun brokers and bidd
rusty1
"You Can License Anything"AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE MONEY!
Full Automatic Weapons are not bad = Not having a License is!
Silencers are not Bad = Not having a License is!
Just as the EPA sets Air Quality Standards: But you can get a License to forego those Standards.
If a Person Desires: They can get a License to sell F-16's to Emerging Nations.
Summation: "MONEY TALKS" = With Big Bucks, you can get away with Murder (Johnny Cochran does't come cheap).
Has anyone noticed the Cupola on the slide of Colt Custom 1911's, "IT" does have significance. Colt atop a Mosque. And if You don't know why? = You haven't been doing your Homework!
Everything is about Money and Power: Princples are merely a Facade, "FREE IRAQ" (right?), China = Most Favored Nation, (Right?), Wally's = "BRING IT HOME TO THE USA" (RIGHT), Cigarettes are worse than Nuclear Waste,(yet are manifactured in Japan, China, Latvia, Brazil, etc. for Americian Consumption) (right?) Americans are Naive and Apathetic (Absolutely RIGHT!)
Insurrections have started over different reasons: Hunger & Hardship (Usually), Religious Persecution (Often), Human Rights (sometimes). "Princples" (never)= But dosen't all of the aforementioned entail "Princples" on the Part of Leadership?
WAR on the otherhand, starts over "Encroachment", "Greed", "Want of Power", "Misconceptions", or "Misinformation". Attributed again to "Leadership", which again, reflects the Princples of Leadership, Princples of "The People' or Lack therof.
"Life Without Princples = Existence Without Purpose" A Nation, whose People have NO PRINCPLES = Have no reason for their Actions, Nor any reason to Act! They wait to be told how and when to act.
"Power Corrupts; ABSLOUTE POWER; CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY and it should be added; "APATHETIC CITIZENS ARE THEIR OWN WORST ENEMY"
HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF! If you seek to understand that Fact? You must first research and discover the Foibles of Man. [:(]
Do you know of any process to license a Post-86 dealer sample? The only way I can think of is to have a license to manufacture and build it yourself. You still need a business. Also, if you want one that somebody else made, you need a police request for demonstration letter. Also, you can't keep these guns after surrendering your license. Class II manufacturer's license at least $500 a year. Not that bad if it gets you the guns you want, terrible when you consider you'd need a gun shop and a police letter to transfer one to yourself. If you have any suggestions on legally getting a new one, I'm up for suggestions.
You know, I find it absolutely amazing how we strayed from the original topic and instead are searching for ways to circumvent laws that are strictly enforced enough to "keep the people safe from themselves".
If any of you have any doubts about the process of gun kontrol, then let me reiterate it for you all.
Are any of you familiar with the term, "Saturday Night Special"? If you do not, these were inexpensive firearms that certain politicians (who I might add were Demonkrats) had banned in their state in order to keep newly freed slaves defenseless due to the fact that protection was out of their price range. It is called a Saturday Night Special in reference to something a person could buy in "*-Town on Saturday night". Is it any wonder that recently, the name was changed to junk guns? The reason is because with that name, minorities will learn the true guise of a Demonkrat, and sink the demonkrat cause.
More than 3300 blacks were killed, defenseless as they were now rendered, in the next 40-45 years.
Now, we all know the principle behind "supply and demand". If there is a healthy supply of a product, the price goes down. If there is a low supply, the price goes up. The rest is based on what quantity of the people are buying them. What a ban does is stops the supply dead in its tracks, bringing the cost to an exorbitant amount of money for something that should normally be pennies on the dollar.
That, on top of "asking permission" from the Feds to exercise a Constitutional right and then have to submit to registration on top of that, (where applicable)
If you own a gun, especially if it is for trapping and hunting, stop looking to the left and right to see who it is that is targeted by these stupid laws, because YOU are the one holding the bull's eye. Ad those who do not understand the 2nd Amendment are the perfect targets because their lack of understanding paves the way for things to happen right under their noses. Gun kontrol isn't about guns... it's about control. No one is exempt from this.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Thank you.....This post was just burrying its head.Like the rest of the country.I am having a hard time believing their will be a political way to end this issue.With the apathy and iggnorance of the people the agendas victory is assured.Thats right I said Assured...wake up !! geez....the NRAis fighting and so are most the members of this forum over one thing or another,myself included...maybe that is a breakthru for mr...c'mon folks they are winning how many don't see it? Sounds like a good post Gunfreak? Lets see how many here actually take it with any seriousness and have the nerve to say so.....Sigh!!Its discourageing at best....They don't even care[V] at all....until they wake up....and its ..TOO DARN LATE ![xx(] Will serve them ALL right[:(!] But one more time(hopefully)it will be the few,doing the impossible,with little or anything...trying...sigh.....
I HAVE YET TO FIGURE: Why a Law Enforcement Officers Life is more important than mine?
#2 Why does Law Enforcement wear Bullet Proof Vest, Have HiCap mags, Two way communication, Semi-Auto Weapons (with Bayonet Lugs), Shotguns with Flashlights, Pistols with Lasers, Goggles, Helmets, and Urban Camo? Plus any and all Other Agencies at their beck and call, Helicopters, Night Vision, Law Enforcement Ammo, and are pretty much emmune to Law in General? 18 Years of ?Public Service? wasn't drafted into Law Enforcement? New Vehicles at their disposal, all Benefits for self and Family. Then when they retire become U.S. Marshals for another 10 years, drawing 2 checks plus Social Security?
They must have a complete different set of Priorites, a Godlike Philosophy, be void of any vices and human desires? Feel no Greed, Power, Superiority or Animosity?
OH! I see why they are allowed and afforded these Weapons, Vehicles, Protection, Backup, Immunity, etc. etc. THEY ARE Superhuman, Their Lives are More Important than ours! [xx(]
Ah yes,but they choose to put their lives on the line everyday enforcing "our"laws...I in no way begrudge them their"protection"and I know that you do not either,however like you I disagree that they get what we do not.If gun control works SO WELL then why do they need all this stuff Anyway? After all we just know that with the laws that have been inacted we are safer...so they must be as well right??? Ya ,ok.....I feel sooooo safe,think I'll go get some ammo or something....and nothing against LEO's either,but hey ya all gotta admit,there are some dang good points here....Thats um decent,LAW Abiding LEO"S,I mean....
LONGHUNTER: Please don't misconstrue my meaning. I did not say: "Law Enforcement is un-necessary".
Take a closer look at the Training, the Gear, the Weapons available to Law Enforcement today. Tell me they do not resemble Military. (exception: they don't have to sleep in a Tent).
Expect soon: "Law Enforcement Restricted" means, only LAW can possess it, be it Weapons, Mace, Radios, Bullett Proof Vest, Magazines, etc. We hear of "SPECIAL OPPS", Mini Tanks, SWAT, Hummmmmm! This could get Damn Dangerous and damn quick. Don't forget "The Path to Power is Paved with Concepts sold, Promises Broken". How many things turn out the way Government Presents it?
"Beware; Greeks Bearing Gifts"
Yes! In my tenure as Delta Gun Sales, I fully supported The "Police Officer", the ones that profess; "TO SERVE & PROTECT", but knowing where the Bulk of their Loyalty's lie! I had approxmately 50 local Officers, which I considered "Friends", men I stood behind and promoted at every occasion. Care to guess how many frequent my GUNLESS Store now? Which enity would the Officers serve; Push come to shove? Most (but not all) will follow the Power Source, even as the Reservation Police turned against their own People, Just as the Gestapo "Were only doing their Job". Sorry My Friend, but every now and then we need do a Reality Check! Those out to disarm you are not near as Naive. [8]
I hear you....I do....makes you just wanna throw it all in the crapper and flush....I just get so..you know what I am saying.It is so dang discouraging.Lot of my buddies up here got that "hunter mentality".They do not believe it will come to our losing guns here.They won't try it here,they would'nt dare! Ya right.....I am sorry for your problems bud..I REALLY am,its bull I believe you as others do here...I do keep finding little pockets of believers but by and large.....they are sheep....Will keep trying...what is the option??Its unthinkable ....at least I once thought it was...Geesh folks can be so gullible.
Keeyyyyy Rect: And Randy Weaver was "UP THERE", but they searched him out, attempted to Utilize him, then set him up, then took him down. I think Randy (after serving in the Armed Forces = Special Forces) would deserve better, but what do I know? I would think the Government in General and the ATF in Particular, could respect someone that served their and merely wanted some PEACE?
So! The Average American wants to sit out the storm; But! The Storm is coming to their House, all of the "I just want to be left alone", "This can't be happening in America", "Someone will eventually get it right, Just not me" attitude will not serve well when "Liberty is Lost, and I don't believe any Thinking Person cannot tell it is in Wain. The Next Generation will have no Concept of "Liberty, Justice, or Freedom" - The words will become abstract like "Integrity, Loyalty, Honesty, Bravery, or Reverent" already has!
Well will replace the Common words with Pseudo-Military Jargon, = Weapons of Mass Destruction, Assualt Rifles, Standard Operating Procedure, Weapons, Transient, Essential Fundamental Component, Last name first, first name middle name, middle name last, Sign in Blue or Blue Black, step to the rear, uncover & be seated.
For two inches of tube steel, Randy Weaver Lost, Wife, Son, Dog, and Possibly the most important thing of all; Faith In His Country, the Same Country which he served at risk of Life and Limb. The "Great America" held his allegiance not by Authority but by Love.
Too Quote an Old Song by Bobby Bare= "If there an't a Hell? There ought to be" [}:)]
Gunphreak: You won't find many people more pro-gun than me, but even I have to agree that civilians, or even civilian police departments, don't need fully automatic weapons. Even if suddenly they were allowed for the average citizen, it would only take one time for some nut to shoot up a Wal-mart full of shoppers and 85% of all Americans would shout for a ban on machine guns (maybe all guns). And the police don't need machine guns because such guns are only useful when the enemy/criminals are grouped together and a threat to the good guys. But in civilian society the innocent are almost always mixed in with the criminals in regards to spraying the criminals with machine gun fire. And besides, most police forces don't have the time and money to qualify more than only a small percentage of their officers to carry and use a machine gun. And when a criminal threat is identified that calls for a machine gun, by the time the officer (s) and the machine gun (s) arrive on the scene, a good police department will have summoned enough backup officers with their semi-auto rifles that the situation should be under control enough so that there is no need to spray an apartment complex or residential neighborhood with bullets.
The best and shortest argument I can make for not allowing the gun banners to limit us to only a 10 round mag is that once that right is established, what is to prevent them from limiting us to a 2 round mag?
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Tr,Wasn't it you,(i may very well be mistaken)saying that we can't have the constitution both ways?If there is only one way to interpet the const.for this,that or the other thing...then how do we tear it apart on the auto gun issue?Sorry,doesn't seem to me you can have it both ways.
Longhunter: I am not sure if I ever posted that thought on GB.com. But I would argue that the constitution means what it says and the meaning should not change over time at the whim of the supreme court for example. But on a practical basis I would also argue that if machine guns were as easily avilable as semiautos, then when we read about the mass shootings by some nut the number of victims would be in the hundreds. And when that happens there would be such a public outrage I fear we would all lose each and every gun we own.
Ronnie Perkins: what exactly happened so that now you don't sell guns?
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
But....How can you have it meaning what it says...and then have it say something else on a practical side???/Maybe I do not understand but it seems 2 sided to me.
HUMMMMM! To even mention or imagine a person Shooting up Wal-Mart, is to go along with the liberal Thinking "TR". Let's step back for a second and look from a; no less practical, point of view.
A person has distruction on his mind! That person wants Attention or is merely disgruntled with the world in General and wants to Kill Something!
With a little Imagination: That Person! Would walk into Wal-Mart and Open a gallon of Clorox and pour it into a container with Ammonia then run to the door and watch people falling out. Then which would the ATF ban = The Clorox or the Ammonia? [xx(]
When will our Commrades finally get it through their heads? The Governement PLAN is to "DISARM CIVILANS" (thats us). That is why all of the Common Sense Talk does no good, The Constitution is No Good! The Police are being Heavily Armed and their Numbers grow daily. How much trouble will it be to convience the Police that THEY are Elite? (That is not all of the Police; but 95% of them will consider it an honor to be ranked above the People) Do you not think/know the ATF consider themselves as "ELITE"?
Does not Dianne Feinstein consider herself as "ELITE"? And SIR William Jefferson Clinton, George W. Bush, are they not all above the Law? Does Hillary Rodham cater to whom? (answer: Anyone that will further her Goals and Agendas). What I write here is not speculation!
What was Billy the Kids symbol of his Personal Power? What was the Roman Soldiers, as Pontius Pilate disarmed the Judians? Take away a persons Symbol of Power and he is no more than a Slave, or at best a Subject. (But that is left up to the Nobles, whether the
minions be slave or subject).
Britain, Canada, Australia, (Want to guess who is next and no doubt most difficult on the agenda?) (save the Hardest for Last)
Like it or not, agree if you will -disagree if you must: We; as our Constitution are under attack, and those attacking are well armed, they have Assault Weapons, (you will not), they have Communication between enitys, (you will not), They have the Media under Control, (you do not), They seek Power (you do not), They will do anything to become Powerful (you will not). "GAME OVER"
I am seriously considering writing a book; It will be Titled; "CANDIDATE FOR SUICIDE"! It will take little stretch of the Imagination to compose.
"Ron Brown" Secretary of Agriculture! Indited and most certianly Guilty of Conspiring with "TYSON" (Arkansas) "Mr. Brown doesn't make it back to the States to answer the Charges (he dies in a Plane Wreck). A "TYSON" took his place as Secretary of Argiculture. "Vince Foster" Dies in Marcy Park (suicide) The Park Police are instructed to head the Investigation.
Monica should thank Linda Tripp for stopping her Suicide.
Marylyn Monroe dies of Drug Overdose (suicide)? But now the truth is Homicide.
Weapons of Mass Destruction? Wrong Information, Blairs Fault, Blairs advisors fault? Blairs advisor commits (Suicide)
So! Do you think the Theme and Rational for my Book is reasonable?
So! What next? Maybe I will become a "Candidate", after all, stranger things have happened. I really don't care to be a Cog in the NEW WORLD ORDER. OUR Government can and would place you on the GRASSY KNOLL and make your Momma Believe it. I refuse to be Intimidated by TRASH, so does anyone care to predict my destiny? [xx(]
"GO TELL THE SPARTANS: WE HAVE DONE OUR DUTY"
(and TRFOX, I'll let you guess, from where my tribulations sprang)
GENGHIS KHAN: "A Standing Nail must be driven" sorry gentlemen! I'm having a little trouble subduing reality today. [:(]
Ah, come on Ronnie. We're all friends here. Don't make me guess, just tell me. Where did your tribulations spring from?
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Ronnie,
Americans have a hard time with this as a whole.Your destiny...hmmm,I could think of a few scenarious with less than pleasent ends...plenty of room up in the woods for ya!The Indians had it right ya know,if you can't WIN today,better to cut your looses and fight another day...Not sure I am saying excactly what I mean,so don't take offense ok?
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"I have been tender in raising the cry against these men, I have used numberless arguments to show them their danger, but it will not do to sacrifice a world to either their folly or their baseness. The period has now arrived, in which either they or We must change our sentiments, or one or both must fall"
"What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: It is dearness alone that gives everything its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price on its goods; it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as "FREEDOM" should not be highly rated". "Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered, yet we have this consolation with us, The Harder the Conflict, the more glorious the triumph"
~Thomas Paine~
Thought you Gentlemen may like these quotes.[^]
Ronnie G. Perkins
According to Democrat stereotype, the Republicans are the "Party of the Rich". Liberals represent the poor and "oppressed".
In the election process, votes are what count. Now, in order for a conservative to obtain office, they must make people rich, and keep them rich...
...what then, do you suppose a liberal must do in order to get the necessary votes to get in office???
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
And...if they ever do "ban" guns...at least the legal ownership of guns, they will create a new criminal group, of approximately 60 million, who will NOT comply with the law.
I wonder how big the prison would have to be....and how much concrete it would take to wall off all the land between the Mississippi River and the Rocky Mountains from Canada to Mexico?
An armed society is a polite society.
"I would much prefer to spend my Life as a Lion, and take my chances, than to live forever as a cowering Dog, taking no chances at all".
I am afraid my Scot heritage, promotes my independent behavior. When they send their Rabble to attend me, please explain: My attitude (as theirs) is in my DNA, and I had no other course to consider.
"E Plurbis Unum"
Ronnie G. Perkins
Am I my brothers keeper?
I will attempt to give a Perfect example that occured today:
A Gentleman, which migrated from London, Kentucky; To work at the Jap Toyota Plant, came into (what is left of my shop) and discribed an incident which happened in his hometown a few months ago.
(no sense metioning the millions of pounds of Chemicals released into the atmosphere, ~ Which can be licenced and accepted by the EPA) right to know.com and simply type in your zip code. (RTK.com) While the simpletons are worried about restricting Cigarette Smoking in Resturants here? Go figure? But that is another issue which I have no doubt will eventually tie into the "I'm Scared of Guns Issue". (and mice, and worms, and big sh-t like that).
To Continue: This London, Kentucky Gentelman proceeded (after asking "Where are all of the Guns?" to tell me about a local Gun Shop in his territory. "First they Financially Broke him, afterwards came the full attack" They achieved their ends by shipping a package (prepaid) to his Store", (guess what the package contained?) Now he is forced into Appointed Defense (which is less than NO DEFENSE) because these appointees consider the Courts their Benifactors and your Habis Corpus Rights are accidemic (or enemiic) at best, and only fulfills the "Constitutional Obligation" at a bare minimum.
The Cannons Prescribe: "A Defense Council, even tho appointed; will first establish a theory of what acctually occured, will give a vigorous Defense from the time of appointment until the defendants appeal. At no time will the Defense carry on casual conversation, or show familiarity with the Proscecution during the Proceeding or in the presence of Jury or Defendant" (can you believe the Prosecution and Defense share Bagels in the Morning and laugh about prior cases during short ajournments?
The NRA had Pro-Bono Attorney's attend the Defendant and he won, (but only after extreme delay and petty proscriptions by the ATF and Prosecution, which are one and the same). Well! He got his guns back, but lost his storeGREAT WORK! ATF
Sounded like "Instant Replay" to me, except I did not get a Reply from the NRA. Now any[:o)] that believes this isn't Happening in our Country; Had better wake up and smell the Coffee. These Young Heros are not Ex-Military (if any were it would come as a great surprize to me) but you could never tell from their demeanor. It's Too Real, It's not Coming, It's Here! (or you can wait and experience it for yourself), There has been 4 local Gun Stores close, their doors for various reasons,in the last year, and within 30 miles of me.
I know: Some here think I am a little overtly Passionate, Hyper, or Simply Insane. I can only Hope there are those of you which can discern the Truth from Fiction, and will pass the Word, (by computer, by word of mouth, by carrier pigeon if necessary) The ATF is steadily Progressing and we are still talking. [V] it is all coming down too: "Who's resolute and who is merely Grumbling". This you can depend on: The ATF isn't going away, and the ATF isn't going to Quit, and the ATF is not Going to have Conscience Pangs, The ATF has not only seperated itself from the American People, but has posistioned themselves above them.
Please go back to my First Offing on this Forum (The Confiscation of Delta Gun Sales), My Statements were as true today as they were then. (even more so).
"DEMOCRACY IS NOT SELF SUSTAINING"
Ronnie G. Perkins
quote:Originally posted by gunphreak
Here's today's thought:
According to Democrat stereotype, the Republicans are the "Party of the Rich". Liberals represent the poor and "oppressed".
In the election process, votes are what count. Now, in order for a conservative to obtain office, they must make people rich, and keep them rich...
...what then, do you suppose a liberal must do in order to get the necessary votes to get in office???
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
Ronnie G. Perkins
All of the Rounds Fired on T.V. or the Movies in the last 10 years, would far exceed the amount we have fired in all Wars Americans have participated in.
Our Movies have gone the way of our eating habits = JUNK. Does anyone remember: Cary Grant carrying kathern Hepbern into the Bedroom, and closing the door behind them? (You didn't have to have a Camera Pan down to their crotch to know what they were doing). Remember John Wayne shooting someone (You didn't have to see their Brains fly all over the wall to know the Pilgrim was dead).
Notice how Actors such as Nolte (in Cannery Row) didn't have to pork Debra Winger to make a Good Movie. You knew they did it, but doing it wasn't the Gust of the Story.
Bogart, Bacall, Tracy, Hepbern, Hoffman, Grant, Newman, Cagney, Raines, Granger, Lancaster, Gable, Connery, Cooper, etc, etc, etc. When you are a Great Actor/Actress = You don't need, Skin,Vulgarity, Intestines, Teeth, Hair, Eyballs, or couple dozen Police Cars, Flipping over (automaticlly blowing up).
Comedy = Abbot and Costello, Jack Benny, Jackie Gleason, Milton Berle, even Jim Carey, doesn't have to curse to be Great. Maybe that is what makes them Great? The Wayman Brothers are really talented, but the proof of Talent is doing it without having to be Vulgar in the Process. Anyone tired of MF this, MF that?
Names Like Howard Hawks, John Huston, Alfred Hitchcock, George Lucas, Brian DePalma, Hey! We're talking Class.
Now we have Acid Rock, Acid Heads, Rap and Gang Bangers, Big Macs and Heart Attacks, Songs hitting the Top Of the Charts and took 4 1/2 minutes on the Commode to compose. Pants 14 sizes too large, women with no waist, Silicone Breast, most are addicted to something and all are addicted to Wally World. Everyone has ISSUES and usually take some kind of Drug (prescription of course) to numb their Brain. If the Boy Child runs and Play alot, he is Hyper and requires Drugs, (to slow him down to Momma and Daddys speed, which are also on Drugs).
Anyone notice the Really , Really, Large People waddling around these days and the Skinny ones are Anorexic, (and what do they look for to correct their Problem (DRUGS). Clean Urine is up on Wall Street but Gold is down. Heros are Fools but Fools are admired, and Screwing People is O.K. as long as it is in the name of Business. If it wasn't for FOX, CNN, NBC, CBS, or the BBC. we would all be standing around waiting for someone to tell what to do. (Reminds me of a cage, Raised Chicken that fell of of the truck on the way to Processing. He was just sitting there on the Yellow Line in the Middle of the road; didn't have a clue what to do. I think a lot of people dodged him until someone came along messing with their CD Player[xx(]. "Hey ! Man, whats that on your Bumper?" -- "What Bumper/ Oh! U mean that thing with the Feathers on it?" "Check out My Stereo' Dude", Eight Thousand Watts, gotta keep my truck running or it kills the Battery, I got 64" Woofers behind the seat, Tweeters in My Glove Box, and 1000 watt Sub-Woofers behind that thing with the Feathers on it". When I pull up at the Rest Home to see Granny, all of the Old People just stare and point, Then I turn it up Loud, thing hits 900 decibels, cost $12,000 but I'm working a lot of over time at Ky Chicken and Part Time at Micky Dees. I do my sleeping at School.
DUMBING DOWN OF AMERICA? too late friend[^] (pay no attention to me, I'm Bi-Polar)
Bi-polar? I am monopolar..... Extreme right seeking!!!!
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
Taint Nuttin Tooit : Gunny[:o)]
Ronnie G. Perkins
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
Try and Explain to a Liberal Minded Person, the word: "Metamorphous", tell them to look it up in their "Funk & Wagnell". As the Advantage switches to the other Philosophy, and because someone, thought they had done Humanity a Favor, Thousands if not Millions die. Kosovo, Croatia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Russia, Germany, Rome, Greece, there are probably no Countrys Past or Present, Societys Past or Present, that "Metamorphous" hasn't occured at least once. But! and Example we can all relate too: Social Security when First Instigated, was for a Seemingly GOOD PURPOSE? Until Politicians came to see that Barrel of Money as Revenue, and like a bad Wife or Husband, drawing from the Piggy Bank, yet intending to put it back, but never seem to get around to it. And WE do not hold Politicians feet to the Fire, then suddenly we find: Some of the Most Irresponsible People, InCharge of Governing US? EXAMPLE 2: Our Country signs an Arms Treaty, everyone is releaved = The Nuclear Threat is over! Peace at last? Along comes another President, of Russia, The United States, etc. and ends up as World Bullys, because of our Technology and Hunger for MORE. Weapons of Mass Distruction? Right! Rumsfeld (of Enron Fame) even went as far as Nuclear Threats.
I say this with all of the understanding I have assimilated over these Last 58 years: If not For Americans already being Heavily Armed, I do not believe we would be enjoying what passes for Freedom today. And: If we do not stay Resolute, Aware, Cautious, Skeptical, and Heavily Armed; then we are on the Brink of a Major Change in our Society. (be it good or Bad) all History agrees, the Psychology of Mankind Testifys, as we see the Trend toward a Society that believes itself to be Affluent and Intellectual, just as all Societys of the Past became Arrogant to the Point of Callousness prior to the Downward Spiral or the Event Horizon.
Sorry if I got a bit deep, but I do believe anyone Researching in Depth and without Prejudice, must come to the same conclusion.
E=Mc squared ~ "Nothing can be Larger than the Sum Total of its Parts."
Ronnie G. Perkins
We are told: "The Mexican Borders are Impossible to Guard"? (My Uncle Guarded them during WW2, from Horse Back) Now! With the Technology we have and the Equipment; We can't Guard the Mexican Border?
O.K. we buy that? So the Terrorist Taliban are not smart enough to figure that one out? So! We Put up a Sign, Declaring; "RED ALERT", (kinda like a Sign stating: "DRUG FREE ZONE").
And WHY would the Government Post "RED ALERT" on the News? They have left us out of the equasion and Alerting US would do little good (other than, make us more Paranoid than we already are).
With a Box of "Ohio Blue Tip Matches", a Terroist could easily devastate our Forest. With nothing more than a Coke Bottle and a Fast Moving Vehicle; Terrorist could destroy Telephone Communications in any Urban or Rural Community. Gas Lines and Compressor Stations, Bulk Tanks, are easily accessable in most Southern States. Railroad tracks can be decomissioned with a Tankers Bar or Iron Digging Bar, in a mater of minutes. No need to continue in this vein (now I'm getting Paranoid). The Government Is watching for some Great Catastrophe, witch may or may not ever happen? Fact is: With a Little Imagination and the Inclination, anyone could throw this Country into utter confusion and chaous.
The ATF worry about Explosives, Guns, Ammunition, Hycaps, and Asualt Weapons; While the Most devastating Chemicals and Compounds can be Purchased at any Wal-Mart or Lowes. I doubt a 4473 to purchase Clorox and Ammonia would suffice? You see (ATF, Liberals & NICS), People tend not to be born Felons = They either Become Felons or are Made to Become Felons, they are not going to show up in a NICS Check. I wonder how many "FELONS" there are in a Country of 270,000,000 people - what is the percentage? Assuming all "FELONS" are Dangerous! (notice how the word: "Felon" is brandished these days - simular to "Weapons of Mass Destruction" or "Assault Weapon", almost as if someone is purposefully labeling things? Well! You have to label them before you can condem or turn public opinion against them. " MILITIA ", NOW sounds sinister, but According to Webster: An Army Composed of Ordinary Citizens instead of Trained Soldiers. Perhaps "WE" should consult the "Clinton Dictionary"?
Ronnie G. Perkins
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quote:Originally posted by rusty1
and if you must have a fully automatic you can get a class III PERMIT and if you want high cap mag do like i do go to gun brokers and bidd
rusty1
Full Automatic Weapons are not bad = Not having a License is!
Silencers are not Bad = Not having a License is!
Just as the EPA sets Air Quality Standards: But you can get a License to forego those Standards.
If a Person Desires: They can get a License to sell F-16's to Emerging Nations.
Summation: "MONEY TALKS" = With Big Bucks, you can get away with Murder (Johnny Cochran does't come cheap).
Has anyone noticed the Cupola on the slide of Colt Custom 1911's, "IT" does have significance. Colt atop a Mosque. And if You don't know why? = You haven't been doing your Homework!
Everything is about Money and Power: Princples are merely a Facade, "FREE IRAQ" (right?), China = Most Favored Nation, (Right?), Wally's = "BRING IT HOME TO THE USA" (RIGHT), Cigarettes are worse than Nuclear Waste,(yet are manifactured in Japan, China, Latvia, Brazil, etc. for Americian Consumption) (right?) Americans are Naive and Apathetic (Absolutely RIGHT!)
Insurrections have started over different reasons: Hunger & Hardship (Usually), Religious Persecution (Often), Human Rights (sometimes). "Princples" (never)= But dosen't all of the aforementioned entail "Princples" on the Part of Leadership?
WAR on the otherhand, starts over "Encroachment", "Greed", "Want of Power", "Misconceptions", or "Misinformation". Attributed again to "Leadership", which again, reflects the Princples of Leadership, Princples of "The People' or Lack therof.
"Life Without Princples = Existence Without Purpose" A Nation, whose People have NO PRINCPLES = Have no reason for their Actions, Nor any reason to Act! They wait to be told how and when to act.
"Power Corrupts; ABSLOUTE POWER; CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY and it should be added; "APATHETIC CITIZENS ARE THEIR OWN WORST ENEMY"
HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF! If you seek to understand that Fact? You must first research and discover the Foibles of Man. [:(]
Ronnie G. Perkins
If any of you have any doubts about the process of gun kontrol, then let me reiterate it for you all.
Are any of you familiar with the term, "Saturday Night Special"? If you do not, these were inexpensive firearms that certain politicians (who I might add were Demonkrats) had banned in their state in order to keep newly freed slaves defenseless due to the fact that protection was out of their price range. It is called a Saturday Night Special in reference to something a person could buy in "*-Town on Saturday night". Is it any wonder that recently, the name was changed to junk guns? The reason is because with that name, minorities will learn the true guise of a Demonkrat, and sink the demonkrat cause.
More than 3300 blacks were killed, defenseless as they were now rendered, in the next 40-45 years.
Now, we all know the principle behind "supply and demand". If there is a healthy supply of a product, the price goes down. If there is a low supply, the price goes up. The rest is based on what quantity of the people are buying them. What a ban does is stops the supply dead in its tracks, bringing the cost to an exorbitant amount of money for something that should normally be pennies on the dollar.
That, on top of "asking permission" from the Feds to exercise a Constitutional right and then have to submit to registration on top of that, (where applicable)
If you own a gun, especially if it is for trapping and hunting, stop looking to the left and right to see who it is that is targeted by these stupid laws, because YOU are the one holding the bull's eye. Ad those who do not understand the 2nd Amendment are the perfect targets because their lack of understanding paves the way for things to happen right under their noses. Gun kontrol isn't about guns... it's about control. No one is exempt from this.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
#2 Why does Law Enforcement wear Bullet Proof Vest, Have HiCap mags, Two way communication, Semi-Auto Weapons (with Bayonet Lugs), Shotguns with Flashlights, Pistols with Lasers, Goggles, Helmets, and Urban Camo? Plus any and all Other Agencies at their beck and call, Helicopters, Night Vision, Law Enforcement Ammo, and are pretty much emmune to Law in General? 18 Years of ?Public Service? wasn't drafted into Law Enforcement? New Vehicles at their disposal, all Benefits for self and Family. Then when they retire become U.S. Marshals for another 10 years, drawing 2 checks plus Social Security?
They must have a complete different set of Priorites, a Godlike Philosophy, be void of any vices and human desires? Feel no Greed, Power, Superiority or Animosity?
OH! I see why they are allowed and afforded these Weapons, Vehicles, Protection, Backup, Immunity, etc. etc. THEY ARE Superhuman, Their Lives are More Important than ours! [xx(]
Ronnie G. Perkins
Take a closer look at the Training, the Gear, the Weapons available to Law Enforcement today. Tell me they do not resemble Military. (exception: they don't have to sleep in a Tent).
Expect soon: "Law Enforcement Restricted" means, only LAW can possess it, be it Weapons, Mace, Radios, Bullett Proof Vest, Magazines, etc. We hear of "SPECIAL OPPS", Mini Tanks, SWAT, Hummmmmm! This could get Damn Dangerous and damn quick. Don't forget "The Path to Power is Paved with Concepts sold, Promises Broken". How many things turn out the way Government Presents it?
"Beware; Greeks Bearing Gifts"
Yes! In my tenure as Delta Gun Sales, I fully supported The "Police Officer", the ones that profess; "TO SERVE & PROTECT", but knowing where the Bulk of their Loyalty's lie! I had approxmately 50 local Officers, which I considered "Friends", men I stood behind and promoted at every occasion. Care to guess how many frequent my GUNLESS Store now? Which enity would the Officers serve; Push come to shove? Most (but not all) will follow the Power Source, even as the Reservation Police turned against their own People, Just as the Gestapo "Were only doing their Job". Sorry My Friend, but every now and then we need do a Reality Check! Those out to disarm you are not near as Naive. [8]
Ronnie G. Perkins
So! The Average American wants to sit out the storm; But! The Storm is coming to their House, all of the "I just want to be left alone", "This can't be happening in America", "Someone will eventually get it right, Just not me" attitude will not serve well when "Liberty is Lost, and I don't believe any Thinking Person cannot tell it is in Wain. The Next Generation will have no Concept of "Liberty, Justice, or Freedom" - The words will become abstract like "Integrity, Loyalty, Honesty, Bravery, or Reverent" already has!
Well will replace the Common words with Pseudo-Military Jargon, = Weapons of Mass Destruction, Assualt Rifles, Standard Operating Procedure, Weapons, Transient, Essential Fundamental Component, Last name first, first name middle name, middle name last, Sign in Blue or Blue Black, step to the rear, uncover & be seated.
For two inches of tube steel, Randy Weaver Lost, Wife, Son, Dog, and Possibly the most important thing of all; Faith In His Country, the Same Country which he served at risk of Life and Limb. The "Great America" held his allegiance not by Authority but by Love.
Too Quote an Old Song by Bobby Bare= "If there an't a Hell? There ought to be" [}:)]
Ronnie G. Perkins
The best and shortest argument I can make for not allowing the gun banners to limit us to only a 10 round mag is that once that right is established, what is to prevent them from limiting us to a 2 round mag?
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Ronnie Perkins: what exactly happened so that now you don't sell guns?
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
A person has distruction on his mind! That person wants Attention or is merely disgruntled with the world in General and wants to Kill Something!
With a little Imagination: That Person! Would walk into Wal-Mart and Open a gallon of Clorox and pour it into a container with Ammonia then run to the door and watch people falling out. Then which would the ATF ban = The Clorox or the Ammonia? [xx(]
Ronnie G. Perkins
Does not Dianne Feinstein consider herself as "ELITE"? And SIR William Jefferson Clinton, George W. Bush, are they not all above the Law? Does Hillary Rodham cater to whom? (answer: Anyone that will further her Goals and Agendas). What I write here is not speculation!
What was Billy the Kids symbol of his Personal Power? What was the Roman Soldiers, as Pontius Pilate disarmed the Judians? Take away a persons Symbol of Power and he is no more than a Slave, or at best a Subject. (But that is left up to the Nobles, whether the
minions be slave or subject).
Britain, Canada, Australia, (Want to guess who is next and no doubt most difficult on the agenda?) (save the Hardest for Last)
Like it or not, agree if you will -disagree if you must: We; as our Constitution are under attack, and those attacking are well armed, they have Assault Weapons, (you will not), they have Communication between enitys, (you will not), They have the Media under Control, (you do not), They seek Power (you do not), They will do anything to become Powerful (you will not). "GAME OVER"
I am seriously considering writing a book; It will be Titled; "CANDIDATE FOR SUICIDE"! It will take little stretch of the Imagination to compose.
"Ron Brown" Secretary of Agriculture! Indited and most certianly Guilty of Conspiring with "TYSON" (Arkansas) "Mr. Brown doesn't make it back to the States to answer the Charges (he dies in a Plane Wreck). A "TYSON" took his place as Secretary of Argiculture. "Vince Foster" Dies in Marcy Park (suicide) The Park Police are instructed to head the Investigation.
Monica should thank Linda Tripp for stopping her Suicide.
Marylyn Monroe dies of Drug Overdose (suicide)? But now the truth is Homicide.
Weapons of Mass Destruction? Wrong Information, Blairs Fault, Blairs advisors fault? Blairs advisor commits (Suicide)
So! Do you think the Theme and Rational for my Book is reasonable?
So! What next? Maybe I will become a "Candidate", after all, stranger things have happened. I really don't care to be a Cog in the NEW WORLD ORDER. OUR Government can and would place you on the GRASSY KNOLL and make your Momma Believe it. I refuse to be Intimidated by TRASH, so does anyone care to predict my destiny? [xx(]
"GO TELL THE SPARTANS: WE HAVE DONE OUR DUTY"
(and TRFOX, I'll let you guess, from where my tribulations sprang)
GENGHIS KHAN: "A Standing Nail must be driven" sorry gentlemen! I'm having a little trouble subduing reality today. [:(]
Ronnie G. Perkins
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Americans have a hard time with this as a whole.Your destiny...hmmm,I could think of a few scenarious with less than pleasent ends...plenty of room up in the woods for ya!The Indians had it right ya know,if you can't WIN today,better to cut your looses and fight another day...Not sure I am saying excactly what I mean,so don't take offense ok?