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[:(]The Federal Criminal Code & Rules book contains 1719 pages, 2 -6 rules per page. Printed in 2002 and revised twice in 2002. Try and remember the Laws to which you are subject. Hell! You may be a criminal and not even know it. [:(!]
Laws designed to turn ordinary people into criminals.....
May they all rot in Hell!!!
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Fact of the Mater is: The Government we now Serve, no longer serves us. Our Government and it's enities see us as "The Enemy" at worst, "Subjects" at best. Look at it this way: Sarah Brady's Husband was shot by a Psychotic Looser and with a 22 pistol. Now all Americans and our Constitution are under attack; as if we were Enemies of the State. We have lost and are in the process of loosing our "Rights" guaranteed by the Constitution. How can 1 person destroy the Constitution? A soldier dies in Vietnam serving his country, (perhaps a War that he disagreed with). The Press Secretary gets shot in the head (lives) and all American Sportsmen, Shooters, or merely average Citizens desiring to feel they have the right to self determination, and the Right protect themselves and theirs.
From the "Gun Control Act" to the "Patriot Act's) 1 & 2. Consider: Sarah Brady may not be the Agenda, but she is definatly the tool by which to convience American Citizens to give up their "RIGHTS". "We, The People" sit on our Duffs and hope for the best; trusting that our Government will take care of us. People had better take a good long look (in depth) at the Government as we know it. We support China, yet we condem Hussain for the same actions? Our Government has supported Dictators before, Noreaga, The Shah of Iran, Marcos, the list goes on. The CIA starts a War between Costa Rica and Honduras, why? Because a few Congerssmen owned shares in the American Fruit Company, Costa Rica was about to Nationalise. The Company building most (if not all) Military Airstrips for the US = The Bin Laden Family. (that is out of the Continental USA). Best do your research, and quit wondering who is going to win the NBA playoffs.
If you expect your Children and Grand Children to live in a Democracy, get off of your * and start being an Real American.
I think this war on terrorism is not fully working as planned for the gun kontrol front, Ronnie. Granted they have advance against you, therefore, they haven't given up.
The last thing those bastards wanted to have happen was for citizens to suddenly want to protect themselves and there has been a huge spike in gun sales as a result.
For anyone reading this, whenever some piece of crap liberal proposes legislature for gun kontrol, BUY A GUN!!!!! It will demoralize thei efforts and build up one huge arsenal for yourself.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
If one were to read "The Crminal Code & Rules Book", and compare it to the "Federal Firearms Guide"? The 1719 page Code book discribes "Assault Weapons"; The Colt AR - Any Kalisnakovs (any), TEC 9 DC, TEC22, Norinco (anything marked Norinco), Poly Tech, Galil, FN/FAL, and the list goes on. The problem arises when you look at another "Ruling" in the Code Book, which states; "An Assault Weapon" cannot be transfered.
In 1958, a 16 year old boy/girl could buy a shotgun, carry it through town and go directly to the woods hunting! I SUBMIT: The Guns have changed very little, IT IS SOCIETY THAT HAS CHANGED! There are those that make a Fortune from WAR, from Acting in Movies (depicting Gun Violence) (Martin Sheen would be a Good example) Colt Firearms Ind. is owned by a Fellow named Zulkor, I challange you to guess his Nationallity. Have you ever wondered why our Government has allowed countless Millions of AK'S, MAK's, SKS, H&K G-3, FN/FAL's, etc, etc, etc, to be imported into these United States? (just to condem them as "Assault Weapons".) The Government Way = "Demonize, then Capitalize" KEEP The AMERICAN POPULATION on the DEFENSE and SUBJECT to your Interpitation of Laws and Arbitrary Rules.
SEE! It isn't so difficult to understand.
Visit: www.infowars Oh! And you had better check out the new "PATRIOT ACT II".[}:)]
Looks like the hunters of Illinois have finally been targeted, too. Let that be a lesson to those of you that think pushing those of us equipped with paramilitary weapons in front of you to save your precious trap gun from their hands is a good idea. Time to get wih the program.
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
I say: "There has been more than enough Compromise by the American Patriot, there has been more than enough capitulation by the American Shooters, there has been more than enough pasification of the Liberal Agenda. It is past time we become offensive - because we are being OFFENDED. Next Step = A Police State. (The Government has already began inlisting Local Police into the scheme, with Paybacks and Drubbings), there is no more "Officer O'Mally".
Soon we can Call the Theme "Croatia Revisited". They can tell you about a "Disarmed Public."
I personally; Plan to attack at all levels afforded me. I will arm myself with "TRUTH" and RESOLVE". I do not entend to become a Martyer, yet I am prepared to do so if necessary. I owe this to; The Constitution, The Founding Fathers, To friends and enemy's alike, I owe this to my Family and future Generations, I owe this to all that Long for and cherish FREEDOM.
Let Historians, Philosophers, and Psychologist testify.
GUNPHREAK: That "FLASH BUNNY SITE" that you show on the previous message is a Necessity for any Freedom Loving American. Thanks for finding and presenting it to us.
Hey Ronnie, and all the rest of te Patriots here.... Happy Freedom Day (April 19th, 2003) On this day 226 years ago, the "Shot Heard Around the World" took place. Let's make those who fought and died to create freedom here proud. The odds are stacked against us, but it is not impossible.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
To all Friends, Shooters, Hunters, Patriots, and Free Americans:
The "Federal Criminal Code & Regulations Book" is the Laws to which you are subject. If taken to Federal Court; The Prosecuter and Judge would much prefer you knew nothing of the "Federal Criminal Codes", (thus you would be ignorant of the Law). Don't you believe; Sense we are Subject to those laws = WE! Each and everyone deserve a "Federal Code Book", in other words: We are subject to the Laws, we require a book of those Laws thus leaving us less ignorant and more captable of staying within the Laws, ergo: Less Ignorant Law Breakers. This should be very cost effective in the long run and reduce ManPower such as ATF, DEA, CIA, CID, State, City and County Police (Parrish Police for those in Louisiana).
I request all of my fellow Americans to Contact their Congress Person and/or the US Printing Office requesting your FREE COPY of the "US FEDERAL CRIMINAL CODES & REGULATIONS" (Asssuming "THEY" actually want you to know the LAW)[;)]
4/20/03 - 8:00 AM: GoTo > New York Times = FBI it is todays posting. I think you will see how everything REALLY works. Not bad idea to Print or Save. Besides; we need to start compiling information on the Enforcers, their Indiscretions, Greed, and Power Plays. Yet! At this time, I come near trusting the FBI than the ATF. At least the FBI had a good reptuation for a while. The ATF hasn't experanced that and have no concept of American Free Men, Freeborn, and have disassociated themselvs from "The People". We now are the "SUBJECTS". No longer Brothers. [:(]
There is a time for words, and a time for action. David Koresh,I admire, simply becauese he stood, and fought and in short, became a martyr for the cause of freedom. While there may be some question as to his activities at the "compound", ever notice how when someone goes up against the government their place of domicile automatically becomes a compound? jezzzzzzz! gimme a break!!!!! also Randy Weaver, another admirable American. See, sometimes we simply must STOP talking, and FIGHT! and, in short fighting means KILLING. Killing government officials will NEVER cause me to lose a wink of sleep I will tell you that. I have heard NRA"S arguements of "we will vote them out" or, call your officials!. well, sems to me thats only got us deeper into the frying pan. I loved it when we came a hairs breadth away from an allout civil war back when klinton took office. Why? because the time for talking was OVER, and I realised people were actually for once cohesive and of one mind, that of actually doing, not talking. I'll tell you this, if more ATF FBI agents got theire worthless * killed off, we would be better off! why? because they would now know without doubt that WE, the AMERICAN PEOPLE are in charge, and that the afore mentioned jackbooted tactics of terror and bullying will no longer be tolerated. NOT bargained away, not voted away, not "please mr government, dont hurt us anymore" NO,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, there is a time to stand, My guns are all cleaned, loaded and ready, yes I am ready to walk the walk, talk the talk, and stand. I am tired of our country as it stands at present,, I love my country but I HATE my government! Are there any others of like mind???????????????
As I read this from the beginning, it is rather haunting
to see the late Darrell Mulroy and Ronnie Perkins
butting heads and posturing like kids in a schoolyard.
The sad part is Darrell would probably have been the first to help
had Ronnie been more candid in discussing his dilemma.
Darrell (as a radio talk-show host) certainly had the resources
to rattle some major cages.
But this can no longer be.
Will Ronnie continue to be as equally defensive, evasive and outright belligerent,
now that he has a bit more time to think about his actions?
Stay tuned.
One question, if you will:
Mr. Perkins mentions receipt of a prepaid (illegal?) "package" which turns out to be one of the major issues of this "entrapment."
He unequivocally states he never "ordered" such an item, and was
therefore "set up."
Mr. Perkins' attorney no doubt produced (in court, of course) the original "purchase order" from the mysterious source of the parcel, right?
ahhh...faldum why do I get the impression that you do not believe Ronnie? I've not been here as long as you so am I missing something or is it based on his being vague?
I would like very much to believe what Ronnie has
posted.
At his point, I find some of his responses troublesome.
I sincerely believe Darrell wanted to help:
quote:You still dodge the question. What were the charges if any filed? A search warrant? Let me know. I can get a copy of the documents. We can share.
Problem is, even Mister Johnnie or Gerry Spence cannot help someone who is less than forthright.
Particularly when a Felony conviction and major prison time is
at stake.
At one point, Darrell asked if Ronnie possessed a valid FFL.
Ronnie tap-danced like Fred Astaire when a simple YES or NO would
have helped clarify the situation.
Would you be surprized if one of the charges for which Ronnie
was convicted was:
Selling firearms without a license?
I personally believe about 90% of what Ronnie has intimated.
It's that 10% that can turn reasonable doubt into guilty,especially
when one gives a jury even the slightest impression of hiding something.
I wasn't there.
I cannot describe his demeanor at trial
And I have not yet viewed the entire transcript
Like I mentioned before, I am still in the process of looking for
things...like motives.
Go back and re-read Darrell's questions once again.
And find one that is illogical or unreasonable.
He was criticized soundly as a troublemaker, wherein I
believe he was simply looking for the truth.
And Ronnie wasn't helping very much.
Did you disclose EVERYTHING about your life when you asked these questions??? Because that is what you where asking him to do!! I am not one to blindly follow anyone. Seems you tend to believe those who make a living off of those of us that bust our butts everyday. Are you a government official of some sort?? I will side with a citizen everytime before I believe anything the government (or agency) says. You my friend, have a rude awakening coming!! I am sorry if it seems I am coming down to hard on you (seening how you believe 90%of what he says) but you obviously have not had many dealings with the faceless and nameless government!!!
faldum, Thanks for the amswer post.I will say it seems Ronnie could have been a bit more...up front,that however does not make him guilty.I do not believe you think that either,I too would like to help,if at all possible.I have seen first hand instances of which you speak,perjury,things sent by someone whom wishes to get ahead etc.etc.It happens.It does not happen all the time but it certainly does happen,everyday,somewhere at sometime,I am sure it is happening as we speak....I applaud your attempts tp get all the info,from there we can help much better....Husker,I hear you bud,I am not siding,or ceding..anything....we find out excactly what happened we will be better prepared.....L.H.
For your information, part 2 of 3 news articles
on Mr. Perkins.
Gun store owner still awaits word from ATF agents
By HEATHER HARRIS
1/8/03
A Georgetown business owner who had nearly his entire inventory of guns seized by federal agents has yet to hear from the ATF agents who arrived unexpectedly at his store in November.
"I haven't heard a thing," Ronnie Perkins, owner of Delta Gun Sales, said. "I don't know any more about it than when this started."
Agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms came to Perkins' gun shop Nov. 19, 2002, with a search and seize warrant which stated that agents had reason to believe that Perkins was "unlawfully possessing a semi-automatic assault rifle and other firearms and records."
Approximately 160 guns were seized by the agents, Perkins said, with an estimated value of $100,000.
Perkins, who was not charged or arrested at the time of the seizure, said he has had no contact from the ATF since that time.
"We've had a couple of lawyers try to find the affidavit that was sworn out to get the warrant, and we can't seem to get a hold of it," Perkins said.
Perkins said he is interested in the documentation of the warrant, due to several errors that appear on the document.
The warrant states that the unlawful goods can be found at Delta Gun Sales on 514 Mockingbird Lane. The address for Perkins' business is 514 North Broadway. Another error in the legal document states that the warrant is to be served out in "Georgetown, Clark County."
"Everyone I've talked to has said it's not worth the paper it's written on because of the mistakes," Perkins said.
The ATF office in Louisville did not return calls before press time on Tuesday.
These errors and the lack of contact from federal agents has led Perkins to contact "high-power" lawyers, he said.
"I am going to talk to this lawyer in Louisville here shortly," Perkins said. "He's supposed to be tough."
Perkins said he has also contacted local, state and national leaders about the incident.
"I'm going to fight this all the way," Perkins said. "I'm not the type to lay down."
The third article (to follow) is most disturbing....
faldum: I read that link you provided at RKBA and as longhunter stated it was scary in that it makes it appear that the ATFE and probably other agencies have at least one way to entrap otherwide honest small gun dealers. I would think that all the small gun dealers in America would unite with each other in order to be able to fight back. If I was a small dealer I would try and organize all the other small dealers.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Below is the third and most recent article from the
Georgetown News Graphic:
Perkins gets 63 months on federal gun charges
By KATHY TENNEY
7/16/03
LEXINGTON - A Georgetown gun dealer was sentenced to 63 months in a federal mental health facility Monday morning after being found guilty of illegal weapons sales earlier this year.
Ronnie Gayle Perkins, 58, of 120 Hiawatha Trail, must surrender himself to the Federal Medical Center in Lexington by the first working day of January 2004.
Following the sentence, he will be under supervised release for two years. Within 72 hours of his release, he is to report to probation. He is not allowed to have firearms or weapons, he must participate in a mental health treatment program and he owes a $600 special assessment fee to the United States immediately. The drug testing was suspended.
U.S. District Judge Joseph M. Hood stated that probation would not be a possibility because the case concerned firearms which were semi-automatic assault weapons.
Two of Perkins' friends, Tommy Beckley and Leann Burke, asked for leniency on his behalf.
"He didn't intend to break any laws," Beckley said.
"He's an all-out good guy," Burke added.
Perkins has the right to file an appeal within 10 days. Hood will set appellate bond after notification of the appeal.
Perkins was convicted April 16 on charges of dealing in firearms without a license, possessing and transferring a semiautomatic assault weapon, furnishing false identification to a firearms dealer and possessing three unregistered firearms.
Federal Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearm agents raided Perkins' North Broadway store on Nov. 19, 2002.
Perkins was not arrested or charged at the time. He questioned the method of the search and seizure.
ATF agents came to the store after a package from United Parcel Service was delivered. Four Georgetown police officers entered the store, followed by five ATF agents. The warrant said the place to be searched was "514 N. Broadway, Georgetown, Clark County, Kentucky." It claimed there was a specific gun known to be at the address of 514 Mocking Bird Valley Lane, Georgetown.
Perkins said he never even touched the package, yet ATF agents knew what was in it and knew to bust it. The ATF also took private books and personal guns from the store and the safe, he said.
"The ATF plays friend against friend, family against family, reminiscent of Gestapo tactics used by the Nazis of World War II" Perkins wrote on his Web site.
Those close to Perkins disagreed with Monday's sentencing.
"Perkins wasn't given a fair chance," said Beckley, who works at Perkins' computer store. Perkins' lawyer did not subpoena anyone, Beckley said, adding that he was set up by the ATF.
Perkins' lawyer, Pam Ledgewood, brought tapes with her to the courtroom, which Perkins says shows he is not guilty. This evidence was not brought up during the trial, Perkins said.
Other evidence should have been suppressed, he said, because he was found not guilty of the original charges, but Ledgewood did not move to suppress it.
Perkins is basing his appeal on the failure of his lawyer to submit evidence. She barely questioned witnesses, he said, and told the jury that the ATF did a wonderful job in busting her client.
Ledgewood told Beckley he was not a lawyer, and he should try it himself if he thought he could do better, as she stormed out of the courtroom.
Mr. Pi**ypants: from my readings I believe Ronnie's attorney was probably court appointed and working as a public defender with little compensatation. I am guessing it would be difficult to find another attorney.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
If even half of what I have read is correct, then the government has found an easy way to setup any gun owner/dealer they decide they don't like. Just UPS a "mysterious" package to your target's house containing an illegal item (machine parts, L.E./Military mags, etc) and once the package is inside your house (taken in by one of your kids, wife, etc) raid your house , and of course find the illegal item and you are busted for a federal crime.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
A good attorney would have NO difficulty establishing
its origin.
It (presumably)was an unlawful firearm, which, as we are aware, can usually be traced.
It was mailed from somewhere.
A real person accepted receipt of the parcel at UPS,
making sure there was a return address in case of loss
(and, of course, billing, if necessary.)
But, if the article is correct, no witnesses were subpoenaed.
Perhaps the Govt. had a signed purchase order, with a legitimate
signature of the "buyer?"
Surely there was testimony from the mystery sender as
well?
faldum: I don't know where you are getting your info, but it seems like good info so keep it comming. I must admit at even the age of 61 I never thought any govt. agency would act so criminal. I think the only hope (and not much of it) for Ronnie is if somehow we can get this story into a neat package and distribute it to as many small gun dealers as we can. I know we can't cover America, but maybe if we could just get it to enough small dealers it would create a "critical mass" and those dealers would decide it was in their interest to distribute to other dealers, etc, etc. Then with luck, enough money and interest would be generated to not only help Ronnie but help small dealers from future setups as well as help gun ownership in general. Opinion?
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Your suggestion to possibly coordinate a number of
FFL's sounds logical.
The trick would be to get them to step forward when
possible retaliation is quite real.
A case like this would most benefit from National
exposure...a feature article in The American Rifleman
would be a good start.
I still have many unanswered questions--all of which
have answers, though not apparent at this moment.
Holy crap, check this out.
www.bop.gov
click on inmate locater, click on search by name, type in ronnie perkins.....he's already listed as 'in Transit'
nitrous: thanks so much for those two links. Threre is no was I could have found them on my own.
Longhunter: Excellent idea. Ted Nugent does have a website as I have seen the web address but don't remember what it is. If we can get Ronnie's info to Nugent (the guy is rich which is what is needed) along with the info about that other dealer that was set up in the 1980's (I believe) (Thanks faldum for that info) maybe Nugent would see a pattern and feel like maybe, just maybe some dirty deeds against gun owners was going on.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Delta legally operated for some time under a valid FFL.
It (like all FFL'S) expired.
Just what does one do during the renewal period?
Is it necesary to lock the doors of the shop?
I am not familiar with the prescribed procedure.
Perhaps an FFL might enlighten us...
Comments
Ronnie G. Perkins
May they all rot in Hell!!!
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
From the "Gun Control Act" to the "Patriot Act's) 1 & 2. Consider: Sarah Brady may not be the Agenda, but she is definatly the tool by which to convience American Citizens to give up their "RIGHTS". "We, The People" sit on our Duffs and hope for the best; trusting that our Government will take care of us. People had better take a good long look (in depth) at the Government as we know it. We support China, yet we condem Hussain for the same actions? Our Government has supported Dictators before, Noreaga, The Shah of Iran, Marcos, the list goes on. The CIA starts a War between Costa Rica and Honduras, why? Because a few Congerssmen owned shares in the American Fruit Company, Costa Rica was about to Nationalise. The Company building most (if not all) Military Airstrips for the US = The Bin Laden Family. (that is out of the Continental USA). Best do your research, and quit wondering who is going to win the NBA playoffs.
If you expect your Children and Grand Children to live in a Democracy, get off of your * and start being an Real American.
Ronnie G. Perkins
The last thing those bastards wanted to have happen was for citizens to suddenly want to protect themselves and there has been a huge spike in gun sales as a result.
For anyone reading this, whenever some piece of crap liberal proposes legislature for gun kontrol, BUY A GUN!!!!! It will demoralize thei efforts and build up one huge arsenal for yourself.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
In 1958, a 16 year old boy/girl could buy a shotgun, carry it through town and go directly to the woods hunting! I SUBMIT: The Guns have changed very little, IT IS SOCIETY THAT HAS CHANGED! There are those that make a Fortune from WAR, from Acting in Movies (depicting Gun Violence) (Martin Sheen would be a Good example) Colt Firearms Ind. is owned by a Fellow named Zulkor, I challange you to guess his Nationallity. Have you ever wondered why our Government has allowed countless Millions of AK'S, MAK's, SKS, H&K G-3, FN/FAL's, etc, etc, etc, to be imported into these United States? (just to condem them as "Assault Weapons".) The Government Way = "Demonize, then Capitalize" KEEP The AMERICAN POPULATION on the DEFENSE and SUBJECT to your Interpitation of Laws and Arbitrary Rules.
SEE! It isn't so difficult to understand.
Visit: www.infowars Oh! And you had better check out the new "PATRIOT ACT II".[}:)]
Ronnie G. Perkins
Looks like the hunters of Illinois have finally been targeted, too. Let that be a lesson to those of you that think pushing those of us equipped with paramilitary weapons in front of you to save your precious trap gun from their hands is a good idea. Time to get wih the program.
http://www.flashbunny.org/content/whatguns.html
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
Soon we can Call the Theme "Croatia Revisited". They can tell you about a "Disarmed Public."
I personally; Plan to attack at all levels afforded me. I will arm myself with "TRUTH" and RESOLVE". I do not entend to become a Martyer, yet I am prepared to do so if necessary. I owe this to; The Constitution, The Founding Fathers, To friends and enemy's alike, I owe this to my Family and future Generations, I owe this to all that Long for and cherish FREEDOM.
Let Historians, Philosophers, and Psychologist testify.
Ronnie G. Perkins
Ronnie G. Perkins
Hey Ronnie, and all the rest of te Patriots here.... Happy Freedom Day (April 19th, 2003) On this day 226 years ago, the "Shot Heard Around the World" took place. Let's make those who fought and died to create freedom here proud. The odds are stacked against us, but it is not impossible.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
The "Federal Criminal Code & Regulations Book" is the Laws to which you are subject. If taken to Federal Court; The Prosecuter and Judge would much prefer you knew nothing of the "Federal Criminal Codes", (thus you would be ignorant of the Law). Don't you believe; Sense we are Subject to those laws = WE! Each and everyone deserve a "Federal Code Book", in other words: We are subject to the Laws, we require a book of those Laws thus leaving us less ignorant and more captable of staying within the Laws, ergo: Less Ignorant Law Breakers. This should be very cost effective in the long run and reduce ManPower such as ATF, DEA, CIA, CID, State, City and County Police (Parrish Police for those in Louisiana).
I request all of my fellow Americans to Contact their Congress Person and/or the US Printing Office requesting your FREE COPY of the "US FEDERAL CRIMINAL CODES & REGULATIONS" (Asssuming "THEY" actually want you to know the LAW)[;)]
Ronnie G. Perkins
Ronnie G. Perkins
I believe its time for an "Old America"!
Nuff Said-
Bootleg
quote:Originally posted by Lowdog
The structure is set, you never change it with a ballot poll.
Give me my rights,
liberty and freedom, or give me some time to stock up on ammo.
Like I said, it's time for a New America...
Ronnie G. Perkins
Ronnie G. Perkins
Robert J. Ehrenfried
to see the late Darrell Mulroy and Ronnie Perkins
butting heads and posturing like kids in a schoolyard.
The sad part is Darrell would probably have been the first to help
had Ronnie been more candid in discussing his dilemma.
Darrell (as a radio talk-show host) certainly had the resources
to rattle some major cages.
But this can no longer be.
Will Ronnie continue to be as equally defensive, evasive and outright belligerent,
now that he has a bit more time to think about his actions?
Stay tuned.
One question, if you will:
Mr. Perkins mentions receipt of a prepaid (illegal?) "package" which turns out to be one of the major issues of this "entrapment."
He unequivocally states he never "ordered" such an item, and was
therefore "set up."
Mr. Perkins' attorney no doubt produced (in court, of course) the original "purchase order" from the mysterious source of the parcel, right?
I would like very much to believe what Ronnie has
posted.
At his point, I find some of his responses troublesome.
I sincerely believe Darrell wanted to help:
quote:You still dodge the question. What were the charges if any filed? A search warrant? Let me know. I can get a copy of the documents. We can share.
Problem is, even Mister Johnnie or Gerry Spence cannot help someone who is less than forthright.
Particularly when a Felony conviction and major prison time is
at stake.
At one point, Darrell asked if Ronnie possessed a valid FFL.
Ronnie tap-danced like Fred Astaire when a simple YES or NO would
have helped clarify the situation.
Would you be surprized if one of the charges for which Ronnie
was convicted was:
Selling firearms without a license?
I personally believe about 90% of what Ronnie has intimated.
It's that 10% that can turn reasonable doubt into guilty,especially
when one gives a jury even the slightest impression of hiding something.
I wasn't there.
I cannot describe his demeanor at trial
And I have not yet viewed the entire transcript
Like I mentioned before, I am still in the process of looking for
things...like motives.
Go back and re-read Darrell's questions once again.
And find one that is illogical or unreasonable.
He was criticized soundly as a troublemaker, wherein I
believe he was simply looking for the truth.
And Ronnie wasn't helping very much.
Stay tuned...
Ignore, for the moment, the righteous-sounding platitudes,
conspiracy theories
and references to the deeds of our forefathers.
Answer just one question: (If you "do not blindly follow
anyone")
Someone ordered the mystery package seized by the
agents.
Who was it?
Since we know it wasn't Ronnie (he said so, remember?)
Who could it possibly be?
Maybe some Govt. agent who has no qualms about "blindly following orders..."
and is willing to commit perjury to remain secure in his cubicle?
I ran across this while researching this matter.
Interesting parallel...
https://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsarchives/XcNewsPlus.asp?cmd=view&articleid=298
For your information, part 2 of 3 news articles
on Mr. Perkins.
Gun store owner still awaits word from ATF agents
By HEATHER HARRIS
1/8/03
A Georgetown business owner who had nearly his entire inventory of guns seized by federal agents has yet to hear from the ATF agents who arrived unexpectedly at his store in November.
"I haven't heard a thing," Ronnie Perkins, owner of Delta Gun Sales, said. "I don't know any more about it than when this started."
Agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms came to Perkins' gun shop Nov. 19, 2002, with a search and seize warrant which stated that agents had reason to believe that Perkins was "unlawfully possessing a semi-automatic assault rifle and other firearms and records."
Approximately 160 guns were seized by the agents, Perkins said, with an estimated value of $100,000.
Perkins, who was not charged or arrested at the time of the seizure, said he has had no contact from the ATF since that time.
"We've had a couple of lawyers try to find the affidavit that was sworn out to get the warrant, and we can't seem to get a hold of it," Perkins said.
Perkins said he is interested in the documentation of the warrant, due to several errors that appear on the document.
The warrant states that the unlawful goods can be found at Delta Gun Sales on 514 Mockingbird Lane. The address for Perkins' business is 514 North Broadway. Another error in the legal document states that the warrant is to be served out in "Georgetown, Clark County."
"Everyone I've talked to has said it's not worth the paper it's written on because of the mistakes," Perkins said.
The ATF office in Louisville did not return calls before press time on Tuesday.
These errors and the lack of contact from federal agents has led Perkins to contact "high-power" lawyers, he said.
"I am going to talk to this lawyer in Louisville here shortly," Perkins said. "He's supposed to be tough."
Perkins said he has also contacted local, state and national leaders about the incident.
"I'm going to fight this all the way," Perkins said. "I'm not the type to lay down."
The third article (to follow) is most disturbing....
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Below is the third and most recent article from the
Georgetown News Graphic:
Perkins gets 63 months on federal gun charges
By KATHY TENNEY
7/16/03
LEXINGTON - A Georgetown gun dealer was sentenced to 63 months in a federal mental health facility Monday morning after being found guilty of illegal weapons sales earlier this year.
Ronnie Gayle Perkins, 58, of 120 Hiawatha Trail, must surrender himself to the Federal Medical Center in Lexington by the first working day of January 2004.
Following the sentence, he will be under supervised release for two years. Within 72 hours of his release, he is to report to probation. He is not allowed to have firearms or weapons, he must participate in a mental health treatment program and he owes a $600 special assessment fee to the United States immediately. The drug testing was suspended.
U.S. District Judge Joseph M. Hood stated that probation would not be a possibility because the case concerned firearms which were semi-automatic assault weapons.
Two of Perkins' friends, Tommy Beckley and Leann Burke, asked for leniency on his behalf.
"He didn't intend to break any laws," Beckley said.
"He's an all-out good guy," Burke added.
Perkins has the right to file an appeal within 10 days. Hood will set appellate bond after notification of the appeal.
Perkins was convicted April 16 on charges of dealing in firearms without a license, possessing and transferring a semiautomatic assault weapon, furnishing false identification to a firearms dealer and possessing three unregistered firearms.
Federal Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearm agents raided Perkins' North Broadway store on Nov. 19, 2002.
Perkins was not arrested or charged at the time. He questioned the method of the search and seizure.
ATF agents came to the store after a package from United Parcel Service was delivered. Four Georgetown police officers entered the store, followed by five ATF agents. The warrant said the place to be searched was "514 N. Broadway, Georgetown, Clark County, Kentucky." It claimed there was a specific gun known to be at the address of 514 Mocking Bird Valley Lane, Georgetown.
Perkins said he never even touched the package, yet ATF agents knew what was in it and knew to bust it. The ATF also took private books and personal guns from the store and the safe, he said.
"The ATF plays friend against friend, family against family, reminiscent of Gestapo tactics used by the Nazis of World War II" Perkins wrote on his Web site.
Those close to Perkins disagreed with Monday's sentencing.
"Perkins wasn't given a fair chance," said Beckley, who works at Perkins' computer store. Perkins' lawyer did not subpoena anyone, Beckley said, adding that he was set up by the ATF.
Perkins' lawyer, Pam Ledgewood, brought tapes with her to the courtroom, which Perkins says shows he is not guilty. This evidence was not brought up during the trial, Perkins said.
Other evidence should have been suppressed, he said, because he was found not guilty of the original charges, but Ledgewood did not move to suppress it.
Perkins is basing his appeal on the failure of his lawyer to submit evidence. She barely questioned witnesses, he said, and told the jury that the ATF did a wonderful job in busting her client.
Ledgewood told Beckley he was not a lawyer, and he should try it himself if he thought he could do better, as she stormed out of the courtroom.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Go Army Beat Navy
IF you wanna have fun join the cavalry
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Go Army Beat Navy
IF you wanna have fun join the cavalry
Think about the "mystery package" for a moment.
A good attorney would have NO difficulty establishing
its origin.
It (presumably)was an unlawful firearm, which, as we are aware, can usually be traced.
It was mailed from somewhere.
A real person accepted receipt of the parcel at UPS,
making sure there was a return address in case of loss
(and, of course, billing, if necessary.)
But, if the article is correct, no witnesses were subpoenaed.
Perhaps the Govt. had a signed purchase order, with a legitimate
signature of the "buyer?"
Surely there was testimony from the mystery sender as
well?
Questions, questions....
Answers to follow....
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Your suggestion to possibly coordinate a number of
FFL's sounds logical.
The trick would be to get them to step forward when
possible retaliation is quite real.
A case like this would most benefit from National
exposure...a feature article in The American Rifleman
would be a good start.
I still have many unanswered questions--all of which
have answers, though not apparent at this moment.
http://www.kyed.uscourts.gov/
That is where he was likely seen.
Holy crap, check this out.
www.bop.gov
click on inmate locater, click on search by name, type in ronnie perkins.....he's already listed as 'in Transit'
maybe this link will work.
http://inmateloc.bop.gov/locatorservlet/gov.bop.inmatelocator.FindInmateHttpServlet?Indiv=1&Index=0&Indiv=-1&MiddleName=&Results=10&SearchType=NAME&LastName=perkins&FirstName=ronnie&Gender=U&Race=U&Age=&DateOfBirth=
I thought this was a joke. Ronnie Perkins is a real person.
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
- Jesus Christ in Luke 22:36
Longhunter: Excellent idea. Ted Nugent does have a website as I have seen the web address but don't remember what it is. If we can get Ronnie's info to Nugent (the guy is rich which is what is needed) along with the info about that other dealer that was set up in the 1980's (I believe) (Thanks faldum for that info) maybe Nugent would see a pattern and feel like maybe, just maybe some dirty deeds against gun owners was going on.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Good question.
Delta legally operated for some time under a valid FFL.
It (like all FFL'S) expired.
Just what does one do during the renewal period?
Is it necesary to lock the doors of the shop?
I am not familiar with the prescribed procedure.
Perhaps an FFL might enlighten us...