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LTS,I would agree at least to a point....but does'nt faldum make a valid point as well? I mean if all the batf has to do is drag its feet untill you are out of business,they succeeded anyway.This of course assumimg what we know to date is true,and we have been trying to find out just what happened.We cannot now it all and speculate with what is out there anymore than you can....and I have to wonder IF it was YOU and we were asking these questions,trying to help YOU,how you would feel?
You make an interesting point,The license had been expired so WHO sent the A.rifle to the UNlicensed dealer? And it was a bit more complicated,there was a transfer etc.I am not saying the owner is blameless but why not get ALL the facts straight before rushing to a conclusion? Is the BATFE perfect?,do you believe that there are NO folks in there that overuse their power? iT happens on all levels of enforcement all the time,I would think we could at least look a bit furthur,whats the rush?L.H.
LTS,Well,like I've said many times before...You are entitled to your opinion,and I will fight to defend that right.I certainly hope that you are never in such a position and that you would be wishing your cyber friends to at least look into it.I do agree however that ignorance is "no excuse".There are FAR reaching implications in this one and I believe you may be closing yourself to those.At any rate I thank you for your posts,and whiloe I do not share it,your opinion...L.H.
quote:The ATF warrant had a specfic rifle on it. UPS delivered a package and said that it was pre-paid. I signed and went back talking to two customers. As soon as the UPS truck was out of sight, ATF came through the door and ran the customers off. The Warrant was served, it had the wrong address, I questioned that fact. The warrant had a rifle listed Colt AR, # etc. I told the ATF I had AR's but no Colt. They said "Yes you do", "It's right there in that box."
quote:I had not ordered the rifle, had no knowledge there was even a rifle in the box. The warrant being open ended and all of my store was at their disposal if the Gun mentioned on the warrant was found, (Which was all most a certain, even tho I had not seen the rifle to date and the package was never opened, at least not by me).
Would it be safe to assume someone tipped off the agents
an unlawful shipment was about to occur?
Perhaps the trial transcript will reveal the "mystery sender."
And the purchase order/payment method/signed FFL.
And the individual who allegedly gave false testimony.
And any previous BATF infractions comitted by Delta.
And the reasons for the lengthy renewal delay.
liketoshoot: consider this. It could be a case of a guilty Ronnie Perkins AND misbehaving by the ATFE. And if the ATFE WAS misbehaving, and get away with it, the next time they might be misbehaving with an innocent party, if they so chose (numerous reasons for choosing).
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Your input is most appreciated.
And rather helpful as well.
quote:Play by the rules when you play a mans game.
Anyone can make rules.
It is the consistent application and enforcement
of these rules that, to use your phrase, separates the men from the boys.
And it is this application of the rules (or lack thereof) that may
perhaps make a world of difference for Mr. Perkins.
Originally posted by LIKTOSHOOT
You two are the ones that don`t want to hear it. This is what makes it hard for the other Dealers. Seems, he thinks because he once had a license......he could just continue
right, this is a business man. I think not!! There are rules and it matters not, who-where or what was sent to this store. The facts are this, he operated for over a year with no license/extension/permit. Make all the excuses you two want. NO LICENSE-NO EXTENSION-NO PERMIT......
Aren't you even the LEAST bit curious WHY they held him up that whole year?So he was supposed to ..what ?Go BANKRUPT waiting? Must be nice to have the obvious backing that you do,I know that I would go under waiting that long,as would many in the same circumstances..But of course NOTHING would happen to YOU would it?No you are the peak of perfection when it comes to all this,YOU do not make mistakes...Quick folks repent now for HE has come! LTS,now I will say sorry for bein the wise as* but I didn't know how else to make the point...I'll not apologize for my belief any more than you would,thats whats supposed to make us free isn't it? It isn't supposed to be about $,but obviously for ronnie it had to be,there would be little choice...you and I do not agree and I suspect never will...nuff said for me...L.H.
quote:Aren't you even the LEAST bit curious WHY they held him up that whole year?
A most provocative inquiry.
How many FFL renewals did the Lexington KY branch process
during that period?
What was the average length of time from receipt to approval?
How many were rejected?
What were the reasons?
What particular problems caused the delay of Mr. Perkins' application?
What (if any) warnings or censures did Mr. Perkins receive prior to
his application for renewal?
What FFL quidelines would Mr. Perkins be in violation of,
had his application been processed in a more expedient manner?
Why was Mr. Perkins repeatedly given verbal assurances that
"Everything was going OK" when the opposite was in fact the case?
When Mr. Perkins earnestly requested (out of financial necessity) to transfer some inventory to another dealer, why was this request refused?
quote:Who cares what someone told him over the phone-PERIOD!
I care.
If a representative of the United States Government provided
me (over the phone or otherwise) information that was
false and misleading, I would have legitimate cause for concern.
Originally posted by LIKTOSHOOT
Longhunter, it is obvious you are not an FFL nor do you have a clue AND overlook what I am stating.
On the contrary...I have ALL sorts of clues.You do not know me,and hardly what I do or do not know any more than I do you.You seem to be very "In Love" with the system...such that it is.We have obviously had "different" experiances along this road called life.I am NOT overlooking what you are saying...not at all.I just do not happen to "agree"with you..last I knew that was still acceptable in our country.I do want you to know however that I do hear you,and listen,and learn as I do from all my experiances here on GB.That does not mean that I'll agree,I am not a sheep...waiting...nor a right wing extremist.Just a citizen with an opinion that is not like yours...L.H.
Say you are a gun dealer...you have $100,000 in inventory and your FFL just expired.
You are no longer a firearms dealer, you can not purchase firearms from manufacturers and distributors.
You can sell every one of those firearms that are now considered your personal collection to whom ever, wherever, you wish. You are not considered a firearms dealer by the ATF or any sensible court of law. How then can Ronnie Perkins be considered a criminal?
If you have $100,000 dollars of firearms sitting in your house, decide to sell them, you do not need a FFL to liquidate your assets.
Now if Ronnie was fudging an FFL date to order firearms, he desereves more than 5 years.
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
- Jesus Christ in Luke 22:36
nitrous: are you sure you mean what you are saying? more than five years for fudging a date for a man with no criminal record and an old sickly man at that who may even have an execellent military history behind him? Lock him in a concrete and steel cage for more than five years? Take him away from his children, grandchildren and possibley greatgrandchildren. And then when he finally gets out, his life and financial situation would have been ruined and he would be to damn old to "work" his way back to financial health and instead would probably have to die as a papuer? Just asking.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
In The Federal System you serve at least 80% of your time and if you are good then you get released to a halfway house to readjust to society
I dont know the facts but if they ordered psych eval Ron "Pissed off the Good Humor man" by stating that it was some sort of Govt Conspiracy..remember the Judge is a part of the Fed Govt and got the job because he was a political crony of whoever was in the White house at the time of the appointment
I for one will sleep easier knowing that this dangerous guy is off the streets instead of some murderous drug dealer or illegal alien who is obviously waiting for the next flight.. ...yeah right..I said they (The Government in General) were * shooters and this only proves it..Know what..If I keep talking like this I may disappear from here too...!
Eternal Vigilance: Sir, I salute you. Please visit more often. Bring your good friends.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Eternal Vigilance..............WELCOME!,As far as I am concerned it says something about you in the place that you have chosen to make your 1st post.Please do not be a stranger......Thank you for your post,Longhunter....
The great object of my fear is the federal judiciary.That body,like gravity,ever acting,with noisless foot,and alarming advance,gaining ground step by step,and holding what it gains,is ingulfing insidiously the special governments into the jaws of that which feeds them. Thomas Jefferson.........1821.....Perhaps you'd all like to call THIS great man an alarmist??? anything ring ANY bells here folks??? L.H.
LTS, OK for the sake of your and my sanity,didn't the man have the right to a quick and speedy trial if he was so accused?Ah but no he WASN't accused yet,we just handed him the rope,gave him a lift and helped him hanghimself? I am not arguing just legal issues here,He had the right to be approved or denied in an expediant manner didn't he? It sure just doesn't seem right to me. I do see what you r saying..............
And it is up to us to make sure that doesn't happen.I agree you nitrouz,the majority will forget,its easier than dealing with their concience you see.Some truely believe that he is or must be guilty,others that the government wouldn't do ANY thing wrong...I respect there right to believe however it is disheartning to think that they would'nt want ALL the information first.....but what else is new in this wonderful society of ours......
Thanks for your kind words, gentlemen. I just refuse to read such blather as this LTS character spews without replying-call me argumentative, I guess.
I don't understand the mentality that says if something is legal, then it's acceptable. Did he not learn our history? Why do we read with such rapt attention the story of the Boston Tea Party, and the battles of Lexington and Concord, against the LAWFUL government of the day, yet when the current US government does anything, it's acceptable??
It's too bad there's no time travel, he seems like he'd be comfortable in Germany, circa 1940.
The rest of you are just peachy. I look forward to spending alot more time in this here forum. It's sad that I just now found it, since I've been visiting Gunbroker for some time now. Well, I'm just glad I found it.
Have yourselves a great Labor Day weekend!
Randall
Nitrouz: You are correct in your observations, but I have to admit that most of us have local issues and problems we are dealing with and it is difficult to spend much time or effort on a problem hundreds of miles away and one in which we have limited info. To my credit I told this to the lady who Ronnie bought his gun store from (Sissymaria) so I feel like Ronnie's local friends, family and supporters should be working on this with perhaps a few requests from them to us for additional and specific help.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Just one hour ago I had a conversation with a gentleman that requires me to respound to this matter again. Let us ask Mr. Perkins about the gun safe that he kept in the store with all the firearms for sale that were not on the books! Let us ask him about the gentleman who sold a pistol for him at the Georgetown Flea market that came back to haunt the seller when he applied for an FFl. The seller was denied because of his selling a pistol belonging to Mr. Perkins. Let us ask Mr. Perkins why he was denied an FFL and why the gentleman who ran the computer business that Mr. Perkins was a partner in was also denied a FFl. Why did Mr. Perkins not take the deal that allowed him 1.5 years and 1/2 of his guns back. Why did Mr. Perkins set up and sell guns as a business at the Gun Show in Georgetown after he was denied the FFLs. All this info comes from a man who was denied his FFLs because of his involvement with Mr. Perkins. He said that the BATF had a file on him that was 3 inches thick just because he was involved with Mr. Perkins. I keep telling you there is more to this than what many know or have heard. All it takes is ONE bad FFL holder to spoil it for the rest of the people who are honest and have their FFLs. The lady that had the FFLs that the shop was operating under gave 4 to 6 months notice that she was turning in the FFLs. Her books were right when she did so. This info all comes from a man who was also investigated rather heavily because of his dealing with Mr. Perkins. This man has no reason to lie because he knows he will not hold a FFL so he has to be content with running an ammo shop. He is retired military who has known nothing but guns since going into the military. His only mistake according to him was getting involved with Mr. Perkins. Now that is part of the story that most if not all of you have not heard. I will not defend our BATF but let's face it, they can be right every now and then.
jj,I do not believe I for one ever said that they could'nt be right ,or that this matter was one way or the other...rather I believe what we were asking was someone to look into it furthur,rather than have a "rush" to judgement.I believe any of us would like the same....They aren't always wrong as you say....Just as they are NOT ALWAYS right either........To much power corrupts,do you not agree with that ?I am sure there are agents as there are LEO"S etc. that are up to the standard they should be.....and alas many are not.....Thanks for the Input.........L.H.
jjmitchell60: You really got my attention on that one. Thanks for sharing.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Because its the law does NOT necessarily make it RIGHT. Thats why there are laws about entrapment ....All I was asking was a general accounting of the "whole"deal so as to make am "Intelligent"determination with "our own"minds not the one that you have obviosly been programmed to.No one was asking for money or to call out the bpys or anything...we just wanted to understand the situation in its ENTIRETY>>>>
The following is hardly an admission of guilt:
quote:"All of this, after hindering me from getting a new FFL, and for 1 year from the date of first application, all of this after telling me over and over "It looks as if everything will go through soon".
It simply acknowledges the exasperation in dealing with a
bureaucratic entity that obviously cares little about the
rights of an individual citizen.
Notice the word "new."
If a professional (doctor, lawyer, architect etc.) somehow
neglected to submit the required fees for license renewal,
would they be any less knowledgeable in their field?
"I'm sorry Doc, I won't allow you to attend to my car crash
injuries...you forgot to mail your licnese renewal on time..."
Mr. Perkins obviously cared enough about the law to file for renewal.
If he refused outright to even bother, the case might be viewed in
a different light.
If there was indeed a formal order from the BATF to cease dealing
immediately, such would significantly change the situation thus presented.
To date no one has presented such evidence.
When Mr. Perkins further notes his frustrations after being told
"It looks like everything will go through soon.."
It is difficult to imagine he was similarly ordered to "cease and desist"....
by the same organization.
Call Mr. Perkins a liar.
Something seems to be seriously wrong here.
Those who care will find their questions answered in due
time.
For those bent on gloating over Mr.Perkins' misfortunes,
the truth won't make the least bit of difference.
quote:Originally posted by LIKTOSHOOT
Admisson of guilt,(below) in his own words. Some would like to find every excuse,why he wasn`t guilty.....EVEN WHEN HE ADMITTS IT!!!
"All of this, after hindering me from getting a new FFL, and for 1 year from the date of first application, all of this after telling me over and over "It looks as if everything will go through soon".
....and yes it`s just that simple.
LTS
And I would have to say so are you sir...The LAW is NEVER simple.Good grief I have agreed with you on most points,NO ONE was LOOKING for EXCUSES<just the truth and what is RIGHT...which is NOT necessarily what THE LAW reads..Thats why we are able to go have them changed if enough disagree.otherwise it would be a simple POLICE STATE,sounds to me what you would like it to be...perhaps I am mistaken,all we asked was for an accounting of the facts.The FACT is many people have BROKEN laws over the years and gotten away for various reasons,sometimes they deserved it,sometimes they didn't,obviously it is up to the judge and or the jury.....we simply wanted ALL of the facts,not half of them.And I don't know about you but I have never taken what the media has said at face value.....I have listened to LTS,I have ,I do not think on the other hand that you have heard a damn thing that I have said.Again if you have and thought about and simply disagree,fine,I disagree with you...nuff said. L.H.
LTS, We agree more than you realize I think.However,I would like more facts,I agree that he was operating without,however would'nt it seem that if they didn't give it to him when they should have there would be reason,correct?And if there was he would have been so advised Right? And if he was then I agree all the way,if not then there was something wrong,they were effectivly giving him no alternative,either sell and sell illegaly ,where by they got what they wanted,or go out of business.... where again they got what they wanted.Thats where I have the problem.It seems if he was such a bad butt they could've done so,something earlier rather than wait for him to hang himself.The cease and desist,if it existed would have,or did change everything......However if he was "pressed"into doing an illegal activity just to survive...and the that was the intension,then we DO have a different situation entirely.....I am NOT looking for excuses,as I have told you before I would only like the truth,you by chance would not be a part of law enforcment would you?You sound it,and that again is no insult...At any rate you have given me cause to think,you've brought in points and I thank you for the conversation...I just do not think we will gwt to the point that we could agree in full,however It has been a good debate....L.H.
Government regulation of a God given right (the right to defend myself, my family, my property, and the same of my friends and neighbors) is an unacceptable intrusion. If the BATF is necessary, then there must be an example of something they have done that is good and right. I'm quite sure that we could get along just fine without them. I'm just as certain that we would be better off without them. Would we still be subjects of the British Empire if King George had thought of the BATF. Quite possibly. But only if people (sheeple) had licked their jack boots like some who defend their actions are doing in the present time frame. Pour money, manpower, and regulation down the throats of the American public, and issues will be resolved. Works every time, right? WRONG! Not once has this philosophy EVER worked! Maybe we just need more. YEA! MORE govt. intrusion will fix everything. Vote for liberals. They just need more power/control/time to fix all our problems. They've had it their way for only 40 years now. Things just keep getting better and better. Just think about how screwed up thing's used to be. (you know, prior to the sixties and the liberal takeover) Who wants to go back to those sad and troubled times when there was still some freedom ?
Comments
quote:I had not ordered the rifle, had no knowledge there was even a rifle in the box. The warrant being open ended and all of my store was at their disposal if the Gun mentioned on the warrant was found, (Which was all most a certain, even tho I had not seen the rifle to date and the package was never opened, at least not by me).
Would it be safe to assume someone tipped off the agents
an unlawful shipment was about to occur?
Perhaps the trial transcript will reveal the "mystery sender."
And the purchase order/payment method/signed FFL.
And the individual who allegedly gave false testimony.
And any previous BATF infractions comitted by Delta.
And the reasons for the lengthy renewal delay.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Your input is most appreciated.
And rather helpful as well.
quote:Play by the rules when you play a mans game.
Anyone can make rules.
It is the consistent application and enforcement
of these rules that, to use your phrase, separates the men from the boys.
And it is this application of the rules (or lack thereof) that may
perhaps make a world of difference for Mr. Perkins.
quote:Aren't you even the LEAST bit curious WHY they held him up that whole year?
A most provocative inquiry.
How many FFL renewals did the Lexington KY branch process
during that period?
What was the average length of time from receipt to approval?
How many were rejected?
What were the reasons?
What particular problems caused the delay of Mr. Perkins' application?
What (if any) warnings or censures did Mr. Perkins receive prior to
his application for renewal?
What FFL quidelines would Mr. Perkins be in violation of,
had his application been processed in a more expedient manner?
Why was Mr. Perkins repeatedly given verbal assurances that
"Everything was going OK" when the opposite was in fact the case?
When Mr. Perkins earnestly requested (out of financial necessity) to transfer some inventory to another dealer, why was this request refused?
Indeed.
Much of this story is not being told.
quote:Who cares what someone told him over the phone-PERIOD!
I care.
If a representative of the United States Government provided
me (over the phone or otherwise) information that was
false and misleading, I would have legitimate cause for concern.
Faldum
quote:provided wholesalers will ship to you...."very doubtful."
Someone sent the "mystery package" to Delta via UPS.
That is not "very doubtful."
quote:It takes less than one day.....minutes, to file for an extension by fax. "WE HAVE DONE THIS"
How should Mr. Perkins' numerous phone inquiries be interpreted?
"No, I'm not terribly concerned about how the slow processing
of my license is impacting my livelihood....I just called to
talk about the weather...."
Did you forget longhunter's question?
"Aren't you even the LEAST bit curious WHY they held him up that whole year?"
That's no way to treat a taxpaying businessman, is it?
You are no longer a firearms dealer, you can not purchase firearms from manufacturers and distributors.
You can sell every one of those firearms that are now considered your personal collection to whom ever, wherever, you wish. You are not considered a firearms dealer by the ATF or any sensible court of law. How then can Ronnie Perkins be considered a criminal?
If you have $100,000 dollars of firearms sitting in your house, decide to sell them, you do not need a FFL to liquidate your assets.
Now if Ronnie was fudging an FFL date to order firearms, he desereves more than 5 years.
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
- Jesus Christ in Luke 22:36
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Since it's his first offense, yes 5 years is a bit too much...I'm sorry. House arrest and probation would of been a fitting punishment...
Why did the court think he has a mental problem and why didn't his attorney use that as a defense?...old + senial?
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
- Jesus Christ in Luke 22:36
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
I dont know the facts but if they ordered psych eval Ron "Pissed off the Good Humor man" by stating that it was some sort of Govt Conspiracy..remember the Judge is a part of the Fed Govt and got the job because he was a political crony of whoever was in the White house at the time of the appointment
I for one will sleep easier knowing that this dangerous guy is off the streets instead of some murderous drug dealer or illegal alien who is obviously waiting for the next flight.. ...yeah right..I said they (The Government in General) were * shooters and this only proves it..Know what..If I keep talking like this I may disappear from here too...!
While I'm new to this particular forum, I can say without hesitation, that you're a *. What's all this "Ignorance
of the law is no excuse" crap? You watch too much NYPD Blue or something? A guy had his life STOLEN over
paperwork and you think that HE'S the problem?? I got a suggestion for ya, go to fuggin' Canada, Australia, or the
UK and make sure you comply with the laws over there. Remember, ignorance of the law is no excuse. You change
your forum name to LIKTOTHINKABOUTSHOOTINGBECAUSETHATSALLICANDONOW.
How dare you bang away at the keyboard and talk trash about a guy whose life was RUINED by fedscum who make
King George's troops look like members of a bowling team?
How dare you sit there on your fat duff and make like it was this Ron guy's fault??
How dare you support, through your cowardice and hero worhsip of these derelicts of humanity, the very same
agency that kills innocents as a matter of routine?
You're s sick individual, and you need help. Perhaps though, what you need, is a history lesson. There's a quote
from a humble guy that I think applies to you perfectly-"What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is
life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I
know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" March 23, 1775
For the record, I think you sound like a candy-*, a coward. Are you one of those schmucks who hoisted the flag
for the first time on 09.12.03?
The ATFE-XYZ-123 is un-Constitutional, and, even if it WERE Constitutional, it would still be a bad idea, like
Congress.
When the raids come, will you be sure to point out all of your neighbors who may have guns? Gee, I hope I'm one
of them.
In closing, I want to make sure that you get the gist of this little diatribe of mine-YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. Cowards
like you always help to oppress the strong, the individualistic, the true Americans, who believe in their birthright,
their sacred heritage.
Have a great time knowing that you got into the prison camp last.
For the rest of you, may you always be freer tommorrow than you were today,
Randall[8]
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Has anyone written letters to the editor in the Kentucky papers stating his arrest was illegal?
Has anyone contacted the Attorney General and asked for an investigation?
Poor Ronnie.....soon will be forgotten by all.
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
- Jesus Christ in Luke 22:36
I don't understand the mentality that says if something is legal, then it's acceptable. Did he not learn our history? Why do we read with such rapt attention the story of the Boston Tea Party, and the battles of Lexington and Concord, against the LAWFUL government of the day, yet when the current US government does anything, it's acceptable??
It's too bad there's no time travel, he seems like he'd be comfortable in Germany, circa 1940.
The rest of you are just peachy. I look forward to spending alot more time in this here forum. It's sad that I just now found it, since I've been visiting Gunbroker for some time now. Well, I'm just glad I found it.
Have yourselves a great Labor Day weekend!
Randall
New to the forums???? I think not.
LTS
Guess I am a bit slow....care to share??? L.H.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
The following is hardly an admission of guilt:
quote:"All of this, after hindering me from getting a new FFL, and for 1 year from the date of first application, all of this after telling me over and over "It looks as if everything will go through soon".
It simply acknowledges the exasperation in dealing with a
bureaucratic entity that obviously cares little about the
rights of an individual citizen.
Notice the word "new."
If a professional (doctor, lawyer, architect etc.) somehow
neglected to submit the required fees for license renewal,
would they be any less knowledgeable in their field?
"I'm sorry Doc, I won't allow you to attend to my car crash
injuries...you forgot to mail your licnese renewal on time..."
Mr. Perkins obviously cared enough about the law to file for renewal.
If he refused outright to even bother, the case might be viewed in
a different light.
If there was indeed a formal order from the BATF to cease dealing
immediately, such would significantly change the situation thus presented.
To date no one has presented such evidence.
When Mr. Perkins further notes his frustrations after being told
"It looks like everything will go through soon.."
It is difficult to imagine he was similarly ordered to "cease and desist"....
by the same organization.
Call Mr. Perkins a liar.
Something seems to be seriously wrong here.
Those who care will find their questions answered in due
time.
For those bent on gloating over Mr.Perkins' misfortunes,
the truth won't make the least bit of difference.
Admisson of guilt,(below) in his own words. Some would like to find every excuse,why he wasn`t guilty.....EVEN WHEN HE ADMITTS IT!!!
"All of this, after hindering me from getting a new FFL, and for 1 year from the date of first application, all of this after telling me over and over "It looks as if everything will go through soon".
....and yes it`s just that simple.
LTS
And I would have to say so are you sir...The LAW is NEVER simple.Good grief I have agreed with you on most points,NO ONE was LOOKING for EXCUSES<just the truth and what is RIGHT...which is NOT necessarily what THE LAW reads..Thats why we are able to go have them changed if enough disagree.otherwise it would be a simple POLICE STATE,sounds to me what you would like it to be...perhaps I am mistaken,all we asked was for an accounting of the facts.The FACT is many people have BROKEN laws over the years and gotten away for various reasons,sometimes they deserved it,sometimes they didn't,obviously it is up to the judge and or the jury.....we simply wanted ALL of the facts,not half of them.And I don't know about you but I have never taken what the media has said at face value.....I have listened to LTS,I have ,I do not think on the other hand that you have heard a damn thing that I have said.Again if you have and thought about and simply disagree,fine,I disagree with you...nuff said. L.H.